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Contador Booed at team presentation
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what do you think of this?
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R_Funk
I think it's horrible for the sport. Cycling was for me one of the only sports were people full of respect for all the athletes. Rivalry in an unsportive way is one thing i don't want to be associated with. Nevertheless it's something that seems to be normal nowadays. It's a shame.
 
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Rbn1995
damn frenchies
 
pbenoit4
I'll preface this by saying, I have no expertise on which to pass any judgement on his guilt, but what frustrates me was his press conference. Bjarne Riis was trying to defend his rider by saying that journalists and fans should be questioning the system not the rider. But I recall when the appeal date was postponed, it was Contador and his legal team that had requested its postponement. You can't defend yourself by saying it's the system and then abuse the system for your own needs.
 
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iambennyboy
Well Contador was going to expect some unfriendly banter. he'll just do what he's does best and try to win the tour
 
BlairMCFC
I don't think he will get banned and his titles stripped but part of me thinks that if he wasn't at the top of the sport i think he probably would according to the 'Zero Tolerance' approach i just think that to ban him and remove his titles would be so damaging for the sport and i think they know that too..
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Rbn1995 wrote:
damn frenchies

same happened with italians
 
Ithaca
As long as there is no decision, he is not to be judged by anyone. We are not competent enough to make that judgment, and neither are the French (or the Italians for that matter)

It's not fair to the sport - cycling used to be the one sport that had a certain amount of respect for itself, riders, traditions and etiquette. Not anymore, apparently.
 
lasol
Ithaca wrote:
As long as there is no decision, he is not to be judged by anyone. We are not competent enough to make that judgment, and neither are the French (or the Italians for that matter)

It's not fair to the sport - cycling used to be the one sport that had a certain amount of respect for itself, riders, traditions and etiquette. Not anymore, apparently.


It's ethical to race 2 grand tours with ban looming? It's fair play to other cyclists to compete when it's propable that your victories will be passed on to the 2nd placed (not the same to be crowned afterwards as u know). It's clear that people will respect the riders more if this doping shit is corrected from the sport. Ppl won't want to see uncertainty or doping violations in top of the sport etc. Clentandor riding the Tour (or Giro) is not good for the sport, that's for sure. I hope he won't finish.

I think it's right for them to boo. Clenta has tested positive for banned substance and should be out of competition. The system doesn't work so ppl are protesting.
 
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Ithaca
lasol wrote:
Ithaca wrote:
As long as there is no decision, he is not to be judged by anyone. We are not competent enough to make that judgment, and neither are the French (or the Italians for that matter)

It's not fair to the sport - cycling used to be the one sport that had a certain amount of respect for itself, riders, traditions and etiquette. Not anymore, apparently.


It's ethical to race 2 grand tours with ban looming? It's fair play to other cyclists to compete when it's propable that your victories will be passed on to the 2nd placed (not the same to be crowned afterwards as u know). It's clear that people will respect the riders more if this doping shit is corrected from the sport. Ppl won't want to see uncertainty or doping violations in top of the sport etc. Clentandor riding the Tour (or Giro) is not good for the sport, that's for sure. I hope he won't finish.

I think it's right for them to boo. Clenta has tested positive for banned substance and should be out of competition. The system doesn't work so ppl are protesting.


As long as the rules says he can ride while the case is pending, who are we to judge him? It may not be ethically correct, but you cannot blame AC for wanting to ride his bike. Especially if he is found innocent. In my mind, it is only unethical to let him ride if he is found guilty until proven innocent - and as far as I know, the judicial system works the other way around.

In the case that the crowd is protesting against the regulations, they should be protesting against the system, and not against a single rider, who (let's be honest now) is doing what everyone else would have done.

Sure, he's been tested positive for Clenbuterol, but as we all know, the case about how that got into his bloodstream has yet to be tried. It is not for us to judge him guilty before he is found to be so by a court of law. If anything, we should hope for the opposite. Not because of AC (I personally do not like him), but because it may actually cause UCI and WADA to create some proper guidelines and regulations.
Edited by Ithaca on 01-07-2011 13:52
 
Montolivo
I do agree that booing is a bit childish, but at the same time i do understand those who do. When you are having a trial hanging over youre head and you compete especially in a foreign country and the biggest cycling race what can you expect?
 
stuartmcstuart
Ithaca wrote:
It's not fair to the sport - cycling used to be the one sport that had a certain amount of respect for itself, riders, traditions and etiquette. Not anymore, apparently.


I think those days ended when the general public attitude and awareness about doping changed. and in general people want to see athletes compete without potentially bringing further scandal to the race.
 
kumazan
They can do whatever they want, I'm no one to judge what a random French does or does not. Then, I'd appreciate a bit of consistency, and give the same treatment to other cheaters who were in the same event. Booing Clentie and cheering Schleck, or BMC is much like insulting Riccò and rooting for Klöden.
 
titleist82
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Rbn1995 wrote:
damn frenchies

same happened with italians


actually contador during the giro has been booed (with all the other riders) for the crostis shortcut, not for doping-related issues.
 
mocker1
YEA FINALY SOMEONE ARE SMART AND BOOING AT THAT FUCKING CONTADOR HIPP HIPP HURRAYSmile
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Setzel
titleist82 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Rbn1995 wrote:
damn frenchies

same happened with italians


actually contador during the giro has been booed (with all the other riders) for the crostis shortcut, not for doping-related issues.



Wrong they booed him for what he did to nibali Smile
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stuartmcstuart
kumazan wrote:
They can do whatever they want, I'm no one to judge what a random French does or does not. Then, I'd appreciate a bit of consistency, and give the same treatment to other cheaters who were in the same event. Booing Clentie and cheering Schleck, or BMC is much like insulting Riccò and rooting for Klöden.


There's never going to be consistency, one reason being some people/riders are more likeable than others, particularly in the way they present themselves to the public. If you want to blame anyone, blame the inconsistency in the media...they're the ones usually castigating one rider over another for practically identical crimes. And even that varies hugely depending on the nationalities of the riders and media involved!
 
kumazan
stuartmcstuart wrote:
kumazan wrote:
They can do whatever they want, I'm no one to judge what a random French does or does not. Then, I'd appreciate a bit of consistency, and give the same treatment to other cheaters who were in the same event. Booing Clentie and cheering Schleck, or BMC is much like insulting Riccò and rooting for Klöden.


There's never going to be consistency, one reason being some people/riders are more likeable than others, particularly in the way they present themselves to the public. If you want to blame anyone, blame the inconsistency in the media...they're the ones usually castigating one rider over another for practically identical crimes. And even that varies hugely depending on the nationalities of the riders and media involved!


I'm not saying there must be consistency, I already said that I couldn't care less if AC is booed, clapped or kissed. I just would like it.
 
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