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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-03-2007 17:51
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OK, so what are your race tatics on Flat races, Mountain stages and the timet trials.
(also as im new to PCM)
Can someone explain how the world championships work. Do you pick a country to be in charge of? |
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| gardner |
Posted on 19-03-2007 18:12
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Welcome,
Go on and read the excellent guides of this page.
Regardning the World champinship when playing in career mode the games AI makes the selection for WC.
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| Panaflex |
Posted on 19-03-2007 18:26
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doddy13 wrote:
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Can someone explain how the world championships work. Do you pick a country to be in charge of?
Nope, you pick a team at the start of your career (or switch to another one after a season). Whatever country the team you're playing is from at the time of the World Championship will be the one you play.
F.e. If you're playing with LIQUIGAS, you'll be representing Italy during the championship.
Edited by Panaflex on 19-03-2007 18:58
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-03-2007 18:55
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gardner wrote:
Welcome,
Go on and read the excellent guides of this page.
I was actually asking what are YOUR tatics. I think i have an ok tatic in my game. It's just an idea to see what other people do |
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| gardner |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:04
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TT I simulate.
Mountain stages: I use the "dot" a lot. Trying to have my pulse at around 168 thereby being in control of my red bar.
Flat stages: Protect my sprinter. With 12k to go i follow the best sprinter and sprint with aruond 1k to go. I go in a break away if the sprinter teams arent too strong or in the grand tours if it is a stage in the middle or the end of the tour. There the break aways has a greater chance of succes.
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| gardner |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:08
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@Panaflex.
That does not make sense to me. Suppose you are in control of Gerolsteiner. Do you control all the german riders? Or only them from Gerolsteiner?
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| Panaflex |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:19
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Yes you'll be in control of ALL german cyclists at the WC.
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| gardner |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:21
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Damn Ullrich wont be happy with that 
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| Crommy |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:24
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For sprints, I normally set up my own chain. The first rider is there to kill himself to get the team to the front at the start of the sprint, and he'll go at dot 90-99 at 12km. I have two riders following him, firstly my 2nd sprinter and then my main sprinter. If my chain is at the front, my first sprinter will lead out my main guy to about 1.5km, when they'll both go for it alone. If I'm not at the front, I'll just set my main guy to follow a rider who'll I think will win, and hopefully I can sneak around. Normally works quite well, though can be a disaster if my guy from 12km doesn't get anywhere near the front! |
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| Panaflex |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:28
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Crommy wrote:
For sprints, I normally set up my own chain. The first rider is there to kill himself to get the team to the front at the start of the sprint, and he'll go at dot 90-99 at 12km (...)
Though, this only works if you have someone with >70 at flat terrain. For the major tours or other main events (San Remo) he should have at least 75-78.
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| gardner |
Posted on 19-03-2007 19:40
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Though, this only works if you have someone with >70 at flat terrain. For the major tours or other main events (San Remo) he should have at least 75-78.[/quote]
I almost everytime just follow the best or next-best sprinter. When doing that You do not need any flat riders for the chain allowing You to select other types of riders for the team.
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| Panaflex |
Posted on 19-03-2007 20:02
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Same here.
In fact, I have a lot more success following others.
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| Frink_RSA |
Posted on 20-03-2007 08:59
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For sprints, I normally set up my own chain. The first rider is there to kill himself to get the team to the front at the start of the sprint, and he'll go at dot 90-99 at 12km. I have two riders following him, firstly my 2nd sprinter and then my main sprinter. If my chain is at the front, my first sprinter will lead out my main guy to about 1.5km, when they'll both go for it alone. If I'm not at the front, I'll just set my main guy to follow a rider who'll I think will win, and hopefully I can sneak around. Normally works quite well, though can be a disaster if my guy from 12km doesn't get anywhere near the front!
use the same tactic for sprints, i find if i follow i often chose the wrong sprinter to follow and will only get 3rd/4th
TTs i you team to experiment with differing % over differnt stages of the race. for TTT work very well if i set front rider at 90 - 98 % and others at 50 % changing as they move up. using Rabobank i have won every TTT with this tactic.
Mountains use dot and two riders protecting and if i have more then relay so they set high pace. having a bit of trouble stopping attacks using this above normal though. Anyone with any ideas as how best to stop attacks at the bottom of the climb? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-03-2007 15:34
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Either set a tough pace so they get caught easily or if the contendors are attacking just try to follow them. |
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| cmfos |
Posted on 20-03-2007 15:39
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Panaflex wrote:
Same here.
In fact, I have a lot more success following others.
It depends. I've played quite a bit with Milram which has about 10 guys with >72 sprint and acc stats. So with that team, I can set up a train as has been described on this thread and then get Petacchi or Zabel to win many races. The sprint train method is nice in that you can have your team in the front of peloton. This keeps your man away from crashes and forces the other big sprinters to follow you. If they aren't on form, then they won't be able get around your main guy.
On the other hand, if you have a weaker team but a strong sprinter (like Ag2R which has some capable guys like Nazon and Usov but no support guys), then you can only resort to getting your man onto the wheel of a big motor like Petacchi and hoping you can get past him in the last 1 KM. I have never had success at this although I didn't really know how to do sprints when I was managing Ag2R.
Anyway, I use the two methods for different types of races. If I have a strong team, I'll make my own sprint train and hope to bury all the other bastards who are racing against me. If I have a weak team but a strong sprinter, I'll try to piggyback off of someone else. The delight of sprinting is that things are variable and sometimes, even with the best tactics, you still lose. But it's still lots of fun! |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-03-2007 15:59
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A tactic that sometimes works for me is attacking with 4/5 km to go to get a good gap and then sprinting alone. |
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