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Are riders like Cavendish imune to the time limit?
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 02-06-2011 17:16
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After playing 6 Grand Tours (2 Giro, 1 TdF and 3 Vuelta) I almost left wondering if prominent non-climbers like Cavendish are imune to the time limit? In the last Vuelta I played, I had my best climbers tearing up the pack from the getgo on nearly every tough stage. The riders with <65 in MO were dropped instantly.
I noticed that on 9(!) occasions in one GT Cavendish and nearly his entire team came in with a group of about 30 riders. They were not out of the time limit, but the two riders who were just 2 bike lenghts behind were! This happens nearly every tough stage.
I know that some riders try to get in just under the limit to use as little energy as possible, but how can one rider be less then 30 seconds away from the limit in every single stage? This isn't a complaint, it's just something that really grind my gears...
Ps: How do you find out what the limit is? I've heard 20% of the finish time or something.
Edited by cactus-jack on 02-06-2011 17:17
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| lennybernstein |
Posted on 02-06-2011 17:25
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Good question, and one I have no answer to unfortunately.
However, talking of cut-off points, I've just played a very bizarre stage in the Vuelta. I'm using the 2011 DB, and for some reason, a 10km Mountain ITT stage was run as a regular stage rather than a time trial. So all my riders basically sprinted off from the gun. I won the stage by a 2-3 minutes, resulting in all but 21 riders missing the time limit and withdrawing?! |
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| dren |
Posted on 02-06-2011 17:52
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no, there is no protection, in a tdf i maked that all the peloton withdrawn including cavendish, only the breakaway survives. nobody is inmune to the time limit
Edited by dren on 02-06-2011 17:52
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| roturn |
Posted on 03-06-2011 09:26
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Definitely not. Cavendish was kicked out in my TdF. One reason could be that he is peaking and so he has a much better form than other riders. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 03-06-2011 10:54
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I know that he is not protected, it's just a word of phrase. I constantly hear about people who have seen as much as 70 riders drop out in a single stage, yet the most I've had is 21 in an entire GT. Even though I exhausted all my best climbers in the mountains. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 03-06-2011 11:12
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The shorter the mountain stage, the easier to drop people out.
On the long ones you need the last riders to be over an hour behind to knock them out
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Anonymer |
Posted on 03-06-2011 11:36
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One hour isn't that much if the worst climbers lose contact on the first of several climbs, 200km to the finish
In my career Cav actually never finished the tour, so... - what's his mountain stat ? |
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| dren |
Posted on 03-06-2011 11:41
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the best tactic for eliminate riders: stage as flat as possible, and long, if there are headwind is good, select a bad rider and put it in front with effort bar 99 and wait he get a little tired, attack with all your team for try to make the gap, never change the rider with 99 efort bar |
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| shraggi |
Posted on 03-06-2011 11:42
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It's 60 in the pcm daily DB
When I was playing this years giro only 110 finished.
On stage 8 in 2001 a break of 14 finished well over half an hour ahead of the peloton theoretically everybody else should ahve been disqualified accept for the break but they changed the rules |
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| cavfan8 |
Posted on 03-06-2011 12:51
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its lenient depending on the size of the group. If on stage 20 of the tour and all sprinters and like 50 other riders lose time they make an exeption |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 03-06-2011 14:08
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I know that in real life they make exceptions to the rule if there's a danger of 50 riders or so missing out, but don't tell me that the game works in the same way?
Ps: Does anybody know how much time the limit will be on? I know it varies, but I've heard 15-16% on the tough stages. |
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| CasperVg |
Posted on 03-06-2011 14:14
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lennybernstein wrote:
Good question, and one I have no answer to unfortunately.
However, talking of cut-off points, I've just played a very bizarre stage in the Vuelta. I'm using the 2011 DB, and for some reason, a 10km Mountain ITT stage was run as a regular stage rather than a time trial. So all my riders basically sprinted off from the gun. I won the stage by a 2-3 minutes, resulting in all but 21 riders missing the time limit and withdrawing?!
Just had some fun with that in a 31km Mountain ITT myself - set it as a normal mountain stage and did a team attack right from km 0 with Euskaltel. Only 8 riders finished, 7 Euskaltels and Taaramaë 
| Rank | Name | Team | Time | Player | | 1 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | 1h09'51 | Player | | 2 | Igor Antón | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 55 | Player | | 3 | Amets Txurruka | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 4'38 | Player | | 4 | Iván Velasco | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | Player | | 5 | Gorka Verdugo | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 4'49 | Player | | 6 | Mikel Nieve | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | Player | | 7 | Egoi MartÃnez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | Player | | 8 | Rein Taaramäe | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | + 6'45 | |
Edited by CasperVg on 03-06-2011 14:15
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| Anonymer |
Posted on 03-06-2011 14:23
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That's just nonsense and not really topic related - and very boring |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 03-06-2011 16:21
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Not boring at all, that only shows how strong Taaramäe is.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 03-06-2011 16:28
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Yes, because being 2' worse than I.Velasco is an amazing performance. 
OT: No, they're not. I just finished the Giro yesterday and nearly all sprinters were DQ'd at some point. |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 03-06-2011 16:43
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kumazan wrote:
Yes, because being 2' worse than I.Velasco is an amazing performance.
I mean the fact that he was best of the rest
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