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Mid Season Stats Update
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 07:11
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So I recently thought, it would be fun to open up the PCM.daily db and edit a few things, turned out I decided to edit tons of stats, in a couple hours.
At first I was going to keep this .cdb for myself but then I remembered the success of LiveStat back for PCM08 during the 09 Giro (  ) so I decided to share.
Now on to what this masterpiece consists of:
-It is based off the PCM.Daily 2011 db and all credit goes to them
-It is fully compatible with the 2011 db as I have only edited stats up to yesterday. (You just have to save it in your database folder and then you can play)
-You can expect stat increases for guys like De Gendt, Offredo, and a bunch of others as well as stat "tweaks" for a large amount of the riders.
-Some riders now have different potentials but only for very small riders (Kelderman, Slagter)
-Stats of Continental teams have also been updated (SpiderTech, Rabo Conti, Androni, Geox)
It would be nice for some feedback, you know the usual "what the f*** is up with X riders Mountain stat he deserves atleast an 80."
Here's the download, enjoy:
https://www.mediaf...ieyem94wog
Edited by valverde321 on 15-05-2011 07:12
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| pmtg99 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 07:43
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personal things (which i think are pretty agreeable)
Nibali- 80 mountain (a little overrated in TT in my eyes as well, but it would be solved if like porte/kloden etc have their TT stat boosted)
Farrar- 68 or so hill, i know it's in the original db at the same as well but he can't be compared to cav on the slightly hilly stages |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 08:14
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pmtg99 wrote:
personal things (which i think are pretty agreeable)
Nibali- 80 mountain (a little overrated in TT in my eyes as well, but it would be solved if like porte/kloden etc have their TT stat boosted)
Farrar- 68 or so hill, i know it's in the original db at the same as well but he can't be compared to cav on the slightly hilly stages
Decided to check in before I go to sleep.
Nibali I felt deserved a 79 with Scarponi 80. I lowered the overall Mountain stats so 79 is the 4th highest as Conta and Andy have 82. With that in mind I dont think its that bad. Also I didn't edit his TT stats at all so that stayed the same as the Daily db.
Same with Farrar, didn't edit his stats at all actually.
Edit: I'll never be able to make everyone happy and I like the stats like this for the most part.
Edited by valverde321 on 15-05-2011 08:15
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 08:36
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Some stats i would change:
-Frank Schleck with 82 in hill
-Menchov and Contador with a lower TT stat
-Sicard with a lower flat/fighter stat so he develops as a climber and not as fighter
-Valverde´s stats lowerded in general?
-Talansky with a higher potential (5 or 6)
-Vansummeren with a higher cobble stat
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| pcm-hardtune |
Posted on 15-05-2011 08:43
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Jurgen Van den Broeck --> 80 Mountains 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2011 09:12
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Some stats I disagree 
- Joaquin Rodriguez with 82 in hill
- Simon Gerrans with 77/78 hill
- Stijn Devolder with 77/76 cobles
- Ben Swift with 78 sprint
- L.P Nordhaug with 71/72 mountain
- Matthew Hayman 76 cobbles
- Geraint Thomas 76/77 cobbles
- Gerald Ciolek acceelration down
And know reasonging behind it. Rodriguez is obvious I think. Gerrans had his consitency back and the podium at Amstel with good shows at two other classics deserve 77/78. He showed more than most of riders with 77/78 on hills.
Devolder didn't finish in Top 50 of Paris Roubaix and Ronde. That justifes it imo.
If Robbie McEwen or Gerald Ciolek got 78 in sprint. Ben Swift deserves that at least. He is faster than them this season by a lot.
We know E_Hagen overhyping Norduag but I think he deserves 71 in mountains. He did have a decent Criterium and is goood help for Lofkvist now at the Giro.
Hayman finished 9th at Paris Roubaix. 2md at Omloop and 4th at Dwars. He was probably one of the most consistent cobble riders in peleton. And he deserves mcuh more than 74. And when you look at the riders with 75/76 cobble - he was mcuh better than them this season.
Geraint too, he was voted best domestique at Ronde but got 10th too. He as well was much better than probably all of 76/77 coble riders this season. I think you should higher his stamina too after what work he did and what place he got.
Edited by Alakagom on 15-05-2011 09:20
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 15:20
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Alakagom wrote:
Some stats I disagree
- Joaquin Rodriguez with 82 in hill
- Simon Gerrans with 77/78 hill
- Stijn Devolder with 77/76 cobles
- Ben Swift with 78 sprint
- L.P Nordhaug with 71/72 mountain
- Matthew Hayman 76 cobbles
- Geraint Thomas 76/77 cobbles
- Gerald Ciolek acceelration down
And know reasonging behind it. Rodriguez is obvious I think. Gerrans had his consitency back and the podium at Amstel with good shows at two other classics deserve 77/78. He showed more than most of riders with 77/78 on hills.
Devolder didn't finish in Top 50 of Paris Roubaix and Ronde. That justifes it imo.
If Robbie McEwen or Gerald Ciolek got 78 in sprint. Ben Swift deserves that at least. He is faster than them this season by a lot.
We know E_Hagen overhyping Norduag but I think he deserves 71 in mountains. He did have a decent Criterium and is goood help for Lofkvist now at the Giro.
Hayman finished 9th at Paris Roubaix. 2md at Omloop and 4th at Dwars. He was probably one of the most consistent cobble riders in peleton. And he deserves mcuh more than 74. And when you look at the riders with 75/76 cobble - he was mcuh better than them this season.
Geraint too, he was voted best domestique at Ronde but got 10th too. He as well was much better than probably all of 76/77 coble riders this season. I think you should higher his stamina too after what work he did and what place he got.
Thanks for this, this is exactly what I wanted with an approx. of the stat and and explanation on why. I feel bad for completely forgetting Rodriguez but I completely agree with you on that.
How is Swift's hill stat? I upped that.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2011 15:27
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Swift hill stat is spot on. He really is proving himslef to be next Freire. Also you did good that you lowered Hagen sprint stat a little. I am gonna take a logner look later and post other stats. But you did very good job 
Edited by Alakagom on 15-05-2011 15:27
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| jph27 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 16:16
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Alakagom wrote:
Swift hill stat is spot on. He really is proving himslef to be next Freire. Also you did good that you lowered Hagen sprint stat a little. I am gonna take a logner look later and post other stats. But you did very good job
In PCM 10 for the PSP, Swift and Freire finished in the Top 10 at the Vuelta. That was with Hill Stats of about 70.  |
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| purepasd |
Posted on 15-05-2011 16:34
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I think Contador and Andy are more than 1 mountain stat better than Menchov, Sanchez and Anton.
Maybe you could lower Di Luca a bit, as he's not as great as he once was. I think he deserves about 75 in mountain.
I like Gilbert's stats a lot, but Evans and Valverde is overrated in the hills imo.
Siutsou, Carrara and Cataldo should be better in mountain Btw.
Edited by purepasd on 15-05-2011 16:43
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2011 16:45
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Additional stats
- Completely forgot about that one before. Geraint Thomas flat stat. I think self explanatory. Because of him Swift won in Under, Henderson in Paris, Swift again in Romanide and even Nuyens in Dwars If Tony Martin has 78 in FL, he derseves the same.
- Breschel cobble and hill stat lowered. I know he had injury but it is the same situation like Hagen's one
- Nuyens hill stat 75/76. He was outside Top 40 in all three Ardennes classics. Also Uran with 77 is maybe a bit lowish, he got 5th at Liege.
- Bauke Mollema TT uppered. About 72/73. He was 10th in 25km TT in Paris Nice and 4th in Castilla y Leon at 9km.
- Freire sprint stat lowered to 76. He is not capable now to win against other spritners at distances less than 200km.
- Pozzatto cobble and hill stat lowered. Did he do anything this year expect 6th in Milano SanRemo ?
- Soler 76/77 in MO. Going be the mid season he didnt do anyting yet this season.
And going to minor stats now. Appollonio is actually doing his best sprints this year from tougher finishes so I think hill stat of 64 is bit too low. 67/69 would be in the appropaite region. But again great job
I think you just overrared Rollin a bit
Edited by Alakagom on 15-05-2011 16:47
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2011 16:45
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purepasd wrote:
I think Contador and Andy are more than 1 mountain stat better than Menchov, Sanchez and Anton.
Maybe you could lower Di Luca a bit, as he's not as great as he once was. I think he deserves about 75 in mountain.
I like Gilbert's stats a lot, but Evans and Valverde is overrated in the hills imo.
I changed the scale a little bit, but Menchov your right, probably doesn't deserve quite that high.
Di Luca after todays stage should get lowered a bit all 'round.
Valverde will probably get lower stats, as I skipped all the free riders before, so all the free riders are still the PCM.daily db, but I'll start working on it.
Edit: @Alakagom
Agree with those for the most part, I thought giving Soler a high Mountain and then low hill stat would go well but apparently not.
Also I disagree about Rollin, I gave hime 76 sprint but he has 69 Acceleration because he is a power sprinter. 16th at MSR, a bunch of Top 5's in Qatar and 16th at OHN, and many more things.
https://www.cqrank...;current=0
Edited by valverde321 on 15-05-2011 17:00
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2011 22:05
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valverde321 wrote:
[quote]purepasd wrote:
I think Contador and Andy are more than 1 mountain stat better than Menchov, Sanchez and Anton.
Maybe you could lower Di Luca a bit, as he's not as great as he once was. I think he deserves about 75 in mountain.
I like Gilbert's stats a lot, but Evans and Valverde is overrated in the hills imo.
I changed the scale a little bit, but Menchov your right, probably doesn't deserve quite that high.
Di Luca after todays stage should get lowered a bit all 'round.
Valverde will probably get lower stats, as I skipped all the free riders before, so all the free riders are still the PCM.daily db, but I'll start working on it.
Edit: @Alakagom
Agree with those for the most part, I thought giving Soler a high Mountain and then low hill stat would go well but apparently not.
Also I disagree about Rollin, I gave hime 76 sprint but he has 69 Acceleration because he is a power sprinter. 16th at MSR, a bunch of Top 5's in Qatar and 16th at OHN, and many more things.
https://www.cqrank...;current=0
I was actually slightly teasing you I agree with his sprint stat. Only the cobble stat should be 73/74 imo, like Farrars.
Edited by Alakagom on 15-05-2011 22:06
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