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| Smowz |
Posted on 23-01-2011 16:13
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Whilst we allow Warner Brothers to bask in the glory of their Tour de France win we get another race that finishes on the Champ d"Elsyees:
Siene-Marne-Siene
The startlist for this reveals a mixture of punchaers and sprinters:
Spoiler La Gazzetta
1. D.Bennati
2. M.Bono
3. A.Dowsett
4. S.Marinangeli
5. M.Mugerli
6. R.RodrÃguez Segarra
7. M.Santambrogio
8. R.Wielinga
Wolfskin
11. M.Van Stayen
12. D.Cornu
13. M.Kreder
14. F.Mancebo
15. P.Martens
16. W.Poels
17. M.Sieberg
18. L.Ten Dam
Pearl
21. R.Vanderbiest
22. J.Bakelants
23. T.Leezer
24. G.Levarlet
25. Y.Offredo
26. M.Richeze
27. D.Vitoria
28. W.Walker
Sony
31. A.Ballan
32. S.Anza
33. L.Fernández Oliveira
34. R.Granjel Cabrera
35. P.Grillo
36. S.Lang
37. M.Mori
38. D.Muravjev
Nespresso
41. N.Hoffman
42. D.Di Luca
43. J.Fiedler
44. P.Fédrigo
45. J.Mendes
46. M.Sibilla
47. G.Steurs
48. R.Traficante
Philips
51. A.Serebriakov
52. L.Bak
53. A.Lund
54. M.Mørkøv
55. M.Pedersen
56. M.Reimer
57. J.Rodriguez Oliver
58. N.Scheunemann
Festina
61. D.Ulissi
62. C.Castaño
63. S.Denifl
64. T.Kvist
65. S.Morabito
66. S.Sánchez Gonzalez
67. J.Van Goolen
68. M.Vingerling
Domina Vacanze
71. B.Cooke
72. M.Eibegger
73. B.Myagmarsuren
74. N.Nuyens
75. B.Schröder
76. I.Speirs
77. J.Vanendert
78. D.Wyss
Energie
81. L.Duque
82. M.Biondo
83. F.Colop
84. M.Cunha
85. B.Pires
86. L.Sanchez Gil
87. A.Vicioso
88. C.Zaballa
Colombia
91. J.Castañeda
92. J.Arango
93. A.Ardila Cano
94. S.Joly
95. C.Knees
96. O.Pereiro Sio
97. V.Reynès
98. D.Summerhill
Auber 93
101. H.Haussler
102. L.Boom
103. M.Bouet
104. D.Gaudin
105. S.Langeveld
106. N.Maes
107. P.Sinkewitz
108. S.Tronet
Carmeuse
111. W.Weylandt
112. A.Aulas
113. C.Brandt
114. S.Caethoven
115. S.Casar
116. R.Di Gregorio
117. P.Jacobs
118. C.Lhotellerie
Team B&O
121. T.Veelers
122. J.Drucker
123. A.Grivko
124. E.Pidun
125. A.Rasmussen
126. M.Reckweg
127. J.Sagan
128. S.Stenersen
Wikipedia
131. M.Burghardt
132. T.Brandt
133. R.Broers
134. M.Busche
135. K.Eeckhout
136. A.Sebright
137. A.Timofeev
138. T.Van Garderen
Lafarge
141. W.Bonnet
142. L.Bret
143. D.Champion
144. P.Korzh
145. K.Peeters
146. F.Taillefour
147. R.Van Zandbeek
148. C.Vande Velde
Warner Bros.
151. S.Kolesnikov
152. G.De Winde
153. A.Giraldo
154. K.Hulsmans
155. M.Karagobek
156. J.Redondo
157. S.Rosseler
158. M.Van der Pluijm
Vesuvio
161. J.Hopman
162. D.Claerebout
163. T.Faiers
164. D.Galimzyanov
165. B.Gastauer
166. M.Iglinski
167. P.Merino Criado
168. F.Schleck
Lipton
171. J.Baugnies
172. G.Brizuela
173. T.Danielson
174. S.Ghisalberti
175. A.Mironov
176. S.Nooytens
177. A.Petrie-Armstrong
178. J.Zrimsek
Starbucks
181. A.Amador
182. F.Ciccarese
183. M.Fahnert
184. K.Fajt
185. L.Hansen
186. R.Jaramillo
187. K.Koren
188. G.Visconti
EL AL
201. S.Chavanel
202. S.Calzati
203. D.Eliad
204. B.Feillu
205. I.Konovalovas
206. S.Raisin
207. G.Rast
208. R.Sicard
The hills in the first section are tough and so it could be difficult to keep things together - though it does look set to finish in a group sprint just who will be in that group is anyones guess. Bennati is looking for a double win in Paris a couple of his challengers from the tour Van Stayen, Vanderbiest, Granjel Cabrera and Hoffman are here.
Other teams however have favoured their punchaers with Frank Schleck, Tejay Van Garderen, Sinkewitz, LL Sanchez, Sanchez Gil and Vanendert just some of the names present.
France welcomes wildcards El Al with much interest as they have bought their best French stars along.
A number of the riders involved here will be jetting off to China for the 2nd annual...
Badaling International
I believe this circuit is based losely on the Olympic games one used in China, needless to say it is in China (I think) and it climbs up to the great wall and down again on a hilly 25 or so km circuit.
One for the punchaers and of course the startlist is littered with them:
Spoiler Vesuvio
1. F.Schleck
2. J.Cabreira
3. T.Faiers
4. B.Gastauer
5. M.Iglinski
6. M.Kvasina
7. D.Medvedev
8. J.Rienda Segura
La Gazzetta
11. D.Cunego
12. J.Agudelo
13. M.Bono
14. D.De la Fuente
15. M.Mugerli
16. M.Rogers
17. M.Santambrogio
18. W.Vasquez
Team B&O
21. E.Hagen
22. M.Christensen
23. A.Grivko
24. J.Jørgensen
25. N.Keinath
26. S.Kruijswijk
27. T.Riber-Sellebjerg
28. A.Steensen
Sony
31. Y.Trofimov
32. S.Anza
33. L.Fernández Oliveira
34. K.Fouquet
35. M.Mori
36. D.Muravjev
37. M.Reihs
38. M.Öste-Macdonald
Festina
41. D.Ulissi
42. S.Denifl
43. T.Kvist
44. S.Morabito
45. F.Mourey
46. F.Nolf
47. S.Sánchez Gonzalez
48. J.Van Goolen
Auber 93
51. P.Sinkewitz
52. L.Boom
53. N.Brouzes
54. C.Kern
55. S.Langeveld
56. C.Le Mével
57. N.Maes
58. D.Mehr-Wenige
Pearl
61. J.Bakelants
62. M.Fothen
63. G.Levarlet
64. S.Mancuso
65. M.Richeze
66. D.Vitoria
67. W.Walker
68. P.Weening
Energie
71. L.Sanchez Gil
72. A.Cardoso
73. A.Colom Mas
74. B.Pires
75. M.Soler
76. A.Vicioso
77. A.Vital
78. C.Zaballa
Wikipedia
81. T.Van Garderen
82. T.Brandt
83. R.Broers
84. M.Busche
85. R.Eastman
86. K.Eeckhout
87. C.Mai
88. A.Sebright
Philips
91. J.Rodriguez Oliver
92. F.Bellotti
93. S.Cohnen
94. J.Fuglsang
95. E.MartÃnez de Esteban
96. J.Pecharroman
97. M.Reimer
98. M.Schreurs
Lipton
101. S.Ghisalberti
102. T.Bontenackels
103. G.Brizuela
104. T.Danielson
105. C.Di Maggio
106. A.Grigrian
107. A.Petrie-Armstrong
108. M.Rowe
Nespresso
111. D.Di Luca
112. A.Antunes
113. M.Durán
114. P.Fédrigo
115. J.Maillet
116. J.Mendes
117. N.Portal
118. R.Traficante
Domina Vacanze
121. J.Vanendert
122. B.Cooke
123. H.Duenas Nevado
124. M.Eibegger
125. N.Nuyens
126. B.Schröder
127. I.Speirs
128. D.Wyss
Lafarge
131. G.Caruso
132. C.Gautier
133. A.Jeannesson
134. P.Korzh
135. A.Laidler
136. K.Peeters
137. L.Sestili
138. R.Van Zandbeek
Starbucks
141. G.Visconti
142. T.Criel
143. V.Dyadichkin
144. M.Fahnert
145. K.Fajt
146. R.Jaramillo
147. R.Kiserlovski
148. P.Sibila Romero
Wolfskin
151. R.Plaza
152. J.Donald
153. F.Mancebo
154. P.Martens
155. W.Poels
156. T.Rabou
157. W.Van Huffel
158. R.van der Hugenhaben
Petronas
161. M.Carrara
162. J.Bobridge
163. G.Bole
164. R.Feillu
165. S.Gerrans
166. W.Jallays
167. K.Lalouette
168. R.Scholz
Warner Bros.
171. S.Kolesnikov
172. G.De Winde
173. A.Giraldo
174. K.Hulsmans
175. M.Karagobek
176. J.Redondo
177. S.Rosseler
178. M.Van der Pluijm
Colombia
181. J.Gomez Marchante
182. A.Ardila Cano
183. P.Deignan
184. S.Joly
185. C.Knees
186. H.Machado
187. O.Pereiro Sio
188. D.Summerhill
Carmeuse
191. S.Casar
192. A.Aulas
193. C.Brandt
194. R.Di Gregorio
195. A.Fenn
196. P.Jacobs
197. C.Lhotellerie
198. W.Weylandt
Yes Giro and Amstel Gold champ Cunego is here and most would say that he is going head to head with 'La Doyenne' winner Schleck and Fleche Wallone winner Boesson Hagen. We also have Grand Duche winner Yuri Trofimov, Festina duo Sanchez Gil + Ulissi, Bakelandts, LL Sanchez and talented American Van Garderen.
This certainly should be a battle royale here and perhaps an early indicator the season finale in a couple of months time.
Petronas - possibly to disband are here to give their top 10 Continental stars an outing in the Protour.
EDIT: My schedule here then...
Tuesday evening- Siene-Marne-Siene
Wednesday evening - Badaling International
Edited by Smowz on 25-01-2011 17:05
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-01-2011 16:19
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The Badaling route is the circuit from the Olympics, yes
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 23-01-2011 16:39
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It will be interesting to se how Siene-Marne-Siene plays out with its flat rating and long flat run to the finish. I opted not to send Trofimov there because of the uncertainty in which type of rider is best suited for the race.
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Posted on 23-01-2011 16:53
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I have Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez and not Sanchez Gil... He is called Luis Leon...
The first one could be a huge disaster for my team... The 3 generated favorites are all very close to me in the PT rankings... Hopefully some hilly riders will get away and stay away to take the first 10+ results...
Sammy Sanchez away in the break and Ulissi to fight for grabs would be the best possible solution. the second race is probably a normal hilly race where Sammy could do quite well...
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Posted on 23-01-2011 17:18
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Maybe my sprint duo (Sieberg and Van Stayen) can bring a quality result SMS.
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Posted on 23-01-2011 17:23
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If its a hard race, my hope would be for Schleck to come into play like when this was the Worlds. But that was PCM06, and in PCM09 last year we had a 92 man group - so if thats the case Id hope to see Iglinski near the front when the sprint begins and try to get something from there, rather going in the day long break again.
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Posted on 25-01-2011 16:32
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Looking forward to the Seine race tonight. I have no clue what to think of it... Actually I can't understand why I didn't bring Bewley :-/
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Posted on 25-01-2011 16:39
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SotD wrote:
Looking forward to the Seine race tonight. I have no clue what to think of it... Actually I can't understand why I didn't bring Bewley :-/
Maybe Bewley will be missed, but Ulissi tends to be good in the sprinting Puncheur role, be a surprise if he doesnt make Top 10 imo.
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Posted on 25-01-2011 17:07
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Obituries for Starbucks perhaps a bit premature?
With a writer eagerly waiting to bring the Asturias stage race to us, I have bought forward the Badaling circuit race to tomorrow evening.
Congrats to dave92's wikipedia squad that was a fine attack by Tejay!
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Posted on 25-01-2011 17:15
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A shame that Rodriguez crashed in the end, but I guess it was my time to finally experience a crash  |
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Posted on 25-01-2011 17:16
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Awesome to see this race tear to pieces, and a brilliant 3rd place for Schleck. Dissapointing that Iglinski missed the front group though, he has the ability to have managed it, I guess just not the form on the day.
Elsewhere, Festina seemed to have scored well - but bit of a disaster for Energie to have had 2 guys in the front group, and both brought down. Well done to El Al aswell, getting a Top 10.
And interesting to compare with last year. Baugnies, 4th last year, 11 minutes down this year, for example.
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Posted on 25-01-2011 18:46
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This really is an excellent route, also an excellent race.
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Posted on 25-01-2011 18:56
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Well, seem like Trofimov would have been pretty suited with this outcome  . Too bad that Ballan fell, he could have ended up on the podium. Still, two riders in the top 10, not bad at all.
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Posted on 25-01-2011 19:22
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Posted on 25-01-2011 19:53
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Awesome to see this race tear to pieces, and a brilliant 3rd place for Schleck. Dissapointing that Iglinski missed the front group though, he has the ability to have managed it, I guess just not the form on the day.
Elsewhere, Festina seemed to have scored well - but bit of a disaster for Energie to have had 2 guys in the front group, and both brought down. Well done to El Al aswell, getting a Top 10.
And interesting to compare with last year. Baugnies, 4th last year, 11 minutes down this year, for example.
A disaster indeed. Of the 5 riders who fell down in the last lap 2 we're END's riders. Zaballa and Vicioso down in the final lap wasn't really in my plans. We better stop with the unlucky stuff and start making some results fast for the sake of our ProTourship. My only luck is that LLS is always there to save our asses.
Nevertheless a very interesting race. The fact that none of the sprinters made it to the end within the first group ignited a great finish for this nice race
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Posted on 25-01-2011 20:20
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OMG! What a showing from Festina here... Can I hear again that people doubt that my hilly TEAM isn't the strongest :-P
Nah seriously this was amazing, and just what we needed to get a gap from some of the other contenders... Wiki and Vesuvio outdoing me, but besides that I think I outscored everyone else!
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Posted on 25-01-2011 20:43
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So, that sucked...
Before the TDF I was sure about the top 10 in the team rankings. Now, I'm not that sure we can hang in there
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Posted on 25-01-2011 20:53
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SotD wrote:
OMG! What a showing from Festina here... Can I hear again that people doubt that my hilly TEAM isn't the strongest :-P
Nah seriously this was amazing, and just what we needed to get a gap from some of the other contenders... Wiki and Vesuvio outdoing me, but besides that I think I outscored everyone else!
Youre underestimating your haul a bit there. You got 220, Wikipedia 235, Vesuvio 159.
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-01-2011 21:04
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SportingNonsense wrote:
SotD wrote:
OMG! What a showing from Festina here... Can I hear again that people doubt that my hilly TEAM isn't the strongest :-P
Nah seriously this was amazing, and just what we needed to get a gap from some of the other contenders... Wiki and Vesuvio outdoing me, but besides that I think I outscored everyone else!
Youre underestimating your haul a bit there. You got 220, Wikipedia 235, Vesuvio 159.
How can Wikipedia only get 235? Don't they get 220 for the win? And then 5 for each rider making the race?
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Posted on 25-01-2011 21:05
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They only had 4 finishers
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