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| atwqc |
Posted on 12-08-2010 10:10
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Maybe there is a bug in fitness training.
I have played three careers, each time when I try to peak a sprinter(Freire, McEwen...) in Milan-Sanremo, I always found he is not at highest form(which should be 77-80 training fitness), instead, he is always 73-75. And then he reach 78-80 at Gent-Wevelgem. For example, last career with Pozaato, I risk everything for Milan-Sanremo and Flanders, he should be highest fitness level on those two weeks, but he is only 75 at those two races. To my surprise, he is both 79 in Gent and Paris-Roubaix, exactly one week later than I expected. So I think this is not a random issue. Then I check my other riders, found it is a common issue for almost every rider. For example, I peak Karpets for the third week in Giro, but his training fitness is still 75 at the end of the race, then rises to full, but it is totoally a waste!
Does any member has the same problem? I was playing with 1.0.3.0. If so, I think it is an annoying bug should be fixed. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 12-08-2010 10:40
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Try to set the peak form one week earlier then you have done before  |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 12-08-2010 12:04
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Setting a certain training level does not mean that your rider will JUMP to a higher fitness immediately. Instead it means that he will train with a certain intensity. You rider needs to train for a certain time to gain a certain amount of fitness.
This should be obvious and the game itself gives you a hint by telling you that you have to train 2 weeks on level 2 before you can train level 3, ... and so on. |
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 12-08-2010 12:29
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for fitness i know
training camps with the yellow color are for fitness
and if you want to have a sprinter in big form,at training fitness schedule change the schedule
sprinters,fighters has northen classic,stagers have one of the big tours
you can edit that fitness schedule
i put you a screenshot with my fitness schedule for cavendish
i created at custom a schedule for him to be in form at classics and the 3 big tours
if you see it's a line with 10 grids,this are the 10 mounth,from january to octomber
the 5 grid is the giro,on the 7 is le tour and 9 grid vuelta
Edited by superider2010 on 12-08-2010 12:32
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| purepasd |
Posted on 12-08-2010 12:34
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Im pretty sure, that you can take it one level higher. But he need to relax sometimes too. He can't be in topform, so much. You need to give him some space, so he don't get too tired. Cause when he's too tired, he can't reach he's maximum form. |
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 12-08-2010 12:43
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i will put at work cavendish like the americans worked the nigger from the plantations,he must be in pain
if you see it the stage from le tour(day when appear cameron diaz and tom cruise)cavendish maked from hand he whip the pluton,he's the boss from le tour
now i do this to him and i enjoy |
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| atwqc |
Posted on 12-08-2010 12:46
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Lachi wrote:
Setting a certain training level does not mean that your rider will JUMP to a higher fitness immediately. Instead it means that he will train with a certain intensity. You rider needs to train for a certain time to gain a certain amount of fitness.
This should be obvious and the game itself gives you a hint by telling you that you have to train 2 weeks on level 2 before you can train level 3, ... and so on.
If so, you mean the fitness bar does not mean a rider's expected fitness? For my experience, if I want to peak a rider at a race, I must set the highest level one week before that date(also applies to the pre-designed schedule). For example, if you want to peak for Liege, you must set highest level on Amstel golden race, and set the highest bar on Flanders if you want to peak for Roubaix. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 12-08-2010 14:08
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What do you mean with "expected fitness"?
As I said before, it is the training intensity. Your rider has to train his fitness, he will not just turn fit over night.
If you select level 6 for one week, then your rider will train with the highest intensity for one week. Obviously he will be more fit at the end of that week, don't you think?
Another example: Your rider gets ill 4 weeks before Robaix. He will be sick for a week and loose some fitness during that week because he cannot train. If the illness lasts for about one week, he will be about two weeks behind the expected training fitness. Now, you can keep his schedule but he will not be able to reach the top form in time. Instead he will adopt his training intensity to his actual form. Let's say he lost two weeks of level 4 training, so he will train two more weeks on level 4, even if you "told" him to train level 5.
Also, you cannot switch to another schedule and expect your rider just to jump to the higher or lower fitness level which has been setup in the actual week of the other schedule. |
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| geisterhome |
Posted on 13-08-2010 23:50
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its confusing me a bit that when looking at the preset scheduls for the tour den france for example the highest training effords are always during the race :S shouldnt they be on the highest level just in the last week before? also training during the race??
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-08-2010 00:18
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No. It`s fine that way, even if I wouldn`t use level 6, 5 is enough, otherwise you get too tired.
If you have the highest level before the race, your rider will lose energy during the tour.
If the highest levels are in week 2 and week 3 their fitness will be on a hight level during the hard mountainstages in week 2 and 3. The flat stages in week 1 are still for building up a good fitness level. |
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| geisterhome |
Posted on 14-08-2010 00:25
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but is it then how atwqc recognized, the highest training level has to be set 1 week before, so if i wanna have my rider in best shape during the 3rd week of giro i have to set the training on 5 for the 2nd week?
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-08-2010 01:07
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I am not sure but isn`t every "line" one training week.
So if there is the highest level in the 3rd week, the rider will train on highest level every day in this week, so he keeps the good fitness.
It`s the same system than training camps in my opinion. If you book a training camp early in January you are able to pick between 1-6, no matter what your training plan says. So you can go around the rules of the training system (2x1 before 2, 3x4 before 5 and so on).
These camps are also day for day training, so it might be the same for hte real training.
1 line = 1 week, so 7 days of training on the choosen level.
So a GT with 21 days and you get a 90-95 without highest level in the first week. Then you switch to highest level at day 8 and every day there will be one more fitnesspoint. So you will be nearly 100 for the hard stages.
If you have 100 too early for the flat stages, the rider will be quite tired later.
I am not sure about this, but it always works for me. |
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 14-08-2010 03:33
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superider2010 wrote:
i will put at work cavendish like the americans worked the nigger from the plantations,he must be in pain
if you see it the stage from le tour(day when appear cameron diaz and tom cruise)cavendish maked from hand he whip the pluton,he's the boss from le tour
now i do this to him and i enjoy
Uh, the n-word is a pretty offensive word. I wish you would use something else next time. You're just showing your ignorance.
Edited by ABridgeTooFar on 14-08-2010 03:34
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| pmtg99 |
Posted on 14-08-2010 03:39
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ABridgeTooFar wrote:
superider2010 wrote:
i will put at work cavendish like the americans worked the nigger from the plantations,he must be in pain
if you see it the stage from le tour(day when appear cameron diaz and tom cruise)cavendish maked from hand he whip the pluton,he's the boss from le tour
now i do this to him and i enjoy
Uh, the n-word is a pretty offensive word. I wish you would use something else next time. You're just showing your ignorance.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 14-08-2010 11:51
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@pmtg99: The whole sentence from superrider2010 was inappropriate, no matter which words he used.
@all: If you must discuss your personal dislike against people from other ethnic groups, then do it in another forum.
As long as you are in this forum, please do not use language which could offend other members.
Now BACK TO TOPIC. |
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