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Time dont seem to matter?
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| cogneto |
Posted on 29-07-2010 03:32
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Ok playing tdf and im saxo bank Aschleck im 25 sec behind contador so i take a risk and get ahead on a climb i stay ahead of the pack by atleast 20+ seconds but when i win and go to results all the figging group behind me get the same time as me wtf is this crap!
Edited by cogneto on 29-07-2010 05:41
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 29-07-2010 03:36
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I know, experienced the same 
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 29-07-2010 03:46
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In the mythical world of gaming its known as Cya Logic. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-07-2010 10:53
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It depends on the time gap setting in the DB. If it's set to 20, there has to be c. 20 seconds from when the 1st rider passes the line to the next rider does for a gap to be registered. |
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| n30k |
Posted on 29-07-2010 11:29
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CrueTrue wrote:
It depends on the time gap setting in the DB. If it's set to 20, there has to be c. 20 seconds from when the 1st rider passes the line to the next rider does for a gap to be registered.
How to change that?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-07-2010 11:31
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STA_stage -> gene_f_time_gap. |
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| n30k |
Posted on 29-07-2010 11:32
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CrueTrue wrote:
STA_stage -> gene_f_time_gap.
And euh, were to find that folder?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-07-2010 11:54
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You need to open the DB with an editor such as the Full Editor V4. |
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| n30k |
Posted on 29-07-2010 12:13
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CrueTrue wrote:
You need to open the DB with an editor such as the Full Editor V4.
Yea, I've found it already.
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| binga58 |
Posted on 29-07-2010 23:17
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if i were to change this value to 5, would it for example mean that even if a group finishes in a bunch (peloton) that the guys at the rear would be given a different time instead of the same time? |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 30-07-2010 09:47
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This amount tells the computer to check if there is a gap of 20 or in your case 5 seconds between two riders. Only if there is such a gap all riders after the gap will have a different time.
I hope you understand how it works in real life cycling: The commisioners decide if there was a gap or not. All riders after the gap get a different time.
This game has no commisioners therefore the game uses standard values which take into account the 1:10 ratio of the stages (riders seem to run faster) to simulate real life gaps in the 4 types of stages.
In TT the exact travel time has to be measured => gene_f_time_gap = 0
In real life flat stages the peloton will be large during the finish because of the sprinter trains, but still all riders in the peloton have to get the same time, else the would all try to get to the front and cause much havok.
The game uses the value 20 sec. which represents 2 seconds in real life racing.
In real life hilly stages you expect more small groups arriving at the finish line. To simulate this, the time gap in the game has to be reduced to 10 sec (in game).
The value has been reduced for mountain stages to create even more groups. The game uses 7 sec. wich might seem too much but the riders are slower when going up.
So change it to whatever you want and try it out in the game until it feels right for you. |
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| geisterhome |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:25
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so the preset in the game is for:
flat stages 20s,
for hilly stages 10s and
for mountain stages 7s.. did i get this right?
for me it aalso feels like id need to reduce that a little. so maybe someone having a bit experience has any suggestions in order to make it more realistic? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:28
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In the PCM.daily DBs for PCM09, we adjusted them to:
Flat finish: 15
Hill finish: Between 12 and 7
Tough mountain finish: 4 |
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| geisterhome |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:52
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ok thanks! that seems to make sense
why you didnt change them in the 2010 version? |
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| ElPistolero |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:53
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and what´s it in the pcm daily db fpr PCM10 crue? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 31-07-2010 12:28
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We didn't change it for the PCM10 DB, simply because it requires a lot of testing and fine-tuning which we didn't have time for. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 31-07-2010 13:04
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Yup, you need to know the exact stages a bit. |
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| Ozzy |
Posted on 31-07-2010 13:14
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Well, I don't really agree, we fixed Vuelta for our multiplayer game in 5 minutes, just by looking on profiles and setting correct values in DB.
Changing this value for all races wouldn't take more than 3-4 hours.
Or you can go easy mode, and simply change every 20 into 15, 12 into 9 and 7 into 4. That way it gonna be correct for 95% of stages. |
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| laufman |
Posted on 02-08-2010 15:20
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Hi. TDF doesn't have time bounuses. Can this be corrected with editor? |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 02-08-2010 16:36
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The TdF does not have time bonuses, so the setting is correct (Google it, if you do not believe me).
You could change it by editing the classification file and not the database (only database requires a special editor, classification can be edited using a normal text editor) |
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