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Season planner for all teams?
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 13:04
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Does anyone know if it would be possible to make a seasonplanner program, which could change the season planning for the AI teams too? Not for use as a cheat program, but as the opposite. To make btter season planing for the other teams, so you could get more competition. If you want to do so now, you have to change the db quite often with the advnced editor, and in af difficult way.
I would like such a program to make better training programs for the best riders, and to make sure that fx Cavendish or others participated in Tour de france etc. It´s so anoying when you start the tour, and then you see that the sprinters are missing in the startslist, or that they are in realy bad shape and therefore non competitive. |
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| Ronye |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:23
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I think if you put you dificulty on hard or extreme in some cases you won't see this problems.
I play on normal and i don't have this problems but the opposite, they can be too strong in some moments. |
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| neve57 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:25
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i play hard, and all the "top" sprinters are not compiting in tdf
roses are grey, violets are grey, everything is grey,
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| Ronye |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:30
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| neve57 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:32
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they do it the first year, but 2nd 3rd 4th and on ....NO... that is bad på cyanide
roses are grey, violets are grey, everything is grey,
im a dog
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:38
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Ronye wrote:
I think if you put you dificulty on hard or extreme in some cases you won't see this problems.
I play on normal and i don't have this problems but the opposite, they can be too strong in some moments.
My post was not about winning or not. I play on hard, but I gues the only thing that means, is that my own riders gets an invisible penalty to their stats.
The AI rider selection has nothing to do with the difficulty lvl.
I have done a lot of research with the advanced editor, and i can see that the training programs added to the sprinters are not sprinter programs (nearly none of the big sprinters, is in good shape for the tour). I have changed this with the editor, but still I have to edit the startlist before many races, so sepecially the sprinters participate and are in a good shape.
I think the AI really need to be tunned, when it comes to this subject, it takes so much time to change things with the editor before each big race.
Edited by Jones27 on 29-05-2010 14:39
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:41
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neve57 wrote:
they do it the first year, but 2nd 3rd 4th and on ....NO... that is bad på cyanide
exactly. The first season is calculated ok by the AI, but from there it´s not good. |
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:51
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I can´t figure out how I can influence the AI riders selection without doing it manually before each race. It seems to have an effect when I change the training programs, so that the riders actualy is in good shape when the races i want them to participate in comes, but not enough.
I change the possible training prgrames added to the different rider specialization, so that the rider specialization givin to sprinters before a season have sprinter training programs added. In that way you dont have to change the training programs each season.
It would be great if some of the db makers would implement some of these thoughts in their work, maybe they can come further with this than I have.
Edited by Jones27 on 29-05-2010 14:53
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 29-05-2010 14:56
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Well another thing I have done is to change the important races for each rider specialization, this has a litlle effect to I think, but im not sure. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 30-05-2010 17:08
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You can easily set the race participation for all teams using hannes converter or full editor. You just have to fill the gene_ilist_roster in DYN_team_race with the appropriate cyclistID. But I guess you would need to set the training schedules as well as they would not match the race programmes any more. So, I wish you much patience by doing it... |
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 31-05-2010 05:48
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Lachi wrote:
You can easily set the race participation for all teams using hannes converter or full editor. You just have to fill the gene_ilist_roster in DYN_team_race with the appropriate cyclistID. But I guess you would need to set the training schedules as well as they would not match the race programmes any more. So, I wish you much patience by doing it...
Thats right. But the training schedules doesn´t allways match anyway, there is some issues with the sprinters especially. It´s possible to build a db where you change a lot of it before you start the career, at least the schedules you can change before you start a game. Each rider spezialization has one or more training programs added, if you change them, in the db, you don´t have to do it every season.
But the next question is: How does the AI make t the riders selection? If I just change the training programs. will the AI then select a race program that will fit automaticly?
Does anyone knows how the race programs are calculated by the AI?
Edited by Jones27 on 31-05-2010 05:52
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| roturn |
Posted on 31-05-2010 10:17
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Easy - Your guys are a bit better than the stats
Normal - All riders like their stats.
Hard - Cpu riders a bit stronger, your riders like the stats.
Extreme - Your riders weaker, cpu riders stronger than the stats.
That`s what someone wrote in any thread here. And I think this might be realistic.
But the difficulty makes no different to the teams and riders take part on big races. It`s just important in-game. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2010 15:25
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Roturn: He asked how the race programs are calculated. In other words: "Which rider does participate in which race"
Jones27: The answer is quite simple, it is not calculated at all, at least not at the beginning of the season. I have never tried to find out when the riders get assigned and how. Just play a season and look in DYN_team_race in gene_ilist_roster, maybe you will see when and how it is filled. |
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 31-05-2010 19:02
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Lachi wrote:
Roturn: He asked how the race programs are calculated. In other words: "Which rider does participate in which race"
Jones27: The answer is quite simple, it is not calculated at all, at least not at the beginning of the season. I have never tried to find out when the riders get assigned and how. Just play a season and look in DYN_team_race in gene_ilist_roster, maybe you will see when and how it is filled.
Yes. I tried to look, and it seems that the riders are assigned to a race about one week before the race starts, sometimes more. But are they assigned because they are in good shape or are there other parameters that the AI take in to account? Does anybody knows? |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2010 20:19
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I cannot tell you. You could compare the riders from one team just after they have been asigned. Check the differences between the riders which have been chosen to the others. To do this more easily, you could modify 'your team' in the save. |
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