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neve57
anybody got any hint how to let the breakaway go all the way?
 
Maximka
You have to have 100 points of Luck Smile
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Pazflor
Huh? Is there luck in pcm?
 
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Pazflor
Yes I did, but then it comes to the fact that I am quite new to the 09 systemWink
 
depappie
ride fast is my advice
 
lechia
How to let the breakaway go all the way? Don't chase, that's the best way.

If you mean how to stay away in a breakaway all the way to the end, that's harder. One possibility is to have a good rider escape in a Tour when he's many minutes behind. I also find it's more likely for a breakaway to succeed if you escape halfway through a stage rather than at the very beginning of a stage. However, it's possible to stay away even in the case of the latter. This is often the case in national championship races or races where there are few strong (number wise) teams.
 
Pazflor
You can set one rider at dot on 99% and he will block everyone else to chaseWink It's basicly cheating, but I use it if i have to win something. In Down Under I got won the hole thing by doing this tactic on the last stage with Martin. Where 4min down before the stage, won by 3:lol:
 
depappie
to add to what lechia said above, good tip is in a Time Trial let your Fighters who wont be doing well on GC ride very slow, losing plenty of minutes that way in the next stages of the tour the team of the GC leaders will not bother to chase you down. I find breakways win far more often in the 2.2 races because the teams are not good enough to chase you down
 
neve57
it is when your are chasing, but when you are in the breakaway it's very hardPfft just luck
 
nicolas7412
The profile of the stage/race matters too.

Having a good puncheur and a late hill will help you fool the chasing bunch into miscalculation.

Won't work in the PT classics, because the bunch starts pulling in with a hefty margin, but it does work from time to time in stages.

Ironically not having a rider in the breakaway is the best way to have it win the race.
Because chasing with your team becomes a nightmare if you're playing on hard or extreme, as you'll simply blow up your riders for little more than nothing.
 
chitovf
So what's the point of breaking away. I'll rather stay behind and punch with 20 kms to go.
 
samdiatmh
^ to win sprint/KoM points

but i do the same, stay with the peloton and attack with about 10-15kms to go (more on lower rankings)

although, try to follow a favourite for the race as well... if he attacks, then you attack too
 
neve57
reasons why: Maybe victory, give them chances, and you don't have to hunt them down
 
tha_cannibal
there are many reasons to try to get into a breakaway.

1. to win the race/stage - least likely outcome. in real life and in pcm breaks rarely succeed. best bet is on a flat stage in between some mountain stages in the middle of a grand tour.

also in some of the smaller one day races there is not a dominant team or not enough organization/impetus in the peleton to fully chase it down. possible to sneak away here with a fit rider.

2. KOM/Sprint points - the fame and money that comes in the bonuses can really help a fledgling team.

3. put pressure on other teams - attacking with a strong rider (not your leader) can put pressure on other teams to chase him down. a mid stage attack with a strong rider may even rile some leaders from other teams to attack, weakening their prospects of winning the day.

sometimes i like to use some weaker riders to try to push the gap out to force the other teams to spend the energy to chase. this can make the peleton more susceptible to attacks later in the day.

4. for sh*ts and giggles - sometimes in a stage race you end up with team that has nothing good going for it in that particular race - no leaders in gc, no real chance at a sprint. i might attack here just for the sake of being proactive and trying to open opportunities for some kind of success.

5. to test out young riders - you can attack to see if your young riders have what it takes to hang with the big boys (they usually don't).

another note: its kinda weak, but a break has the best chance of getting away if you also hold the leaders jersey on your team. somewhat of a game glitch but cpu teams don't seem to be programmed to chase aggressively in this scenario. of course that's not always the case.

if you don't have the jersey the leader's team generally does a good job of maintaining a suitable gap for the first half of the stage and the sprinter's teams will likely finish the job as the race winds down.
 
roturn
I`d like to attack more often with my helpers, but in 95% they will get me, so it`s not really worth it. The only breakaway wins were on a flatstage of the vuelta with my +02h37m rider. Almost every race is totally similar : many riders attack in the beginning, the speed is still low. At about 100km to go it`s going to become faster. Between 30km and 15km they reach the top and a masssprint will find the winner. On mountainstages it`s a little bit different because mostly the fugitives will be catched when the favorites attack.
That`s why i just start an breakaway in less than 5% of my races and why i am looking forward to the PCM 10, where they gonna fix it, hopefully Grin
 
neve57
roturn wrote:
I`d like to attack more often with my helpers, but in 95% they will get me, so it`s not really worth it. The only breakaway wins were on a flatstage of the vuelta with my +02h37m rider. Almost every race is totally similar : many riders attack in the beginning, the speed is still low. At about 100km to go it`s going to become faster. Between 30km and 15km they reach the top and a masssprint will find the winner. On mountainstages it`s a little bit different because mostly the fugitives will be catched when the favorites attack.
That`s why i just start an breakaway in less than 5% of my races and why i am looking forward to the PCM 10, where they gonna fix it, hopefully Grin


at least they said so Smile
 
valverde321
On mountainstages it`s a little bit different because mostly the fugitives will be catched when the favorites attack.

haha the fugitivesSmile
 
depappie
also if you send a rider up the road, you can drop hm back to help a teammate who attacked later, they dont help much but anything they can offer is a bonus
 
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