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Lead-out man...
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| 7king |
Posted on 11-02-2010 14:41
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I've tried all sprint threads in here, but I'm still wondering about this..
Right now i'm riding tour the pologne, very flat race, with team sky, and got Sutton, Swift and Downing (77,77,79 in sprints). I do not have someone else to start pulling the train, cause i thought this would be enough.. But they end up far behind. Think 15th is the best place so far, and Downing is the best sprinter in the race! They are all in good shape. Can someone help me with this? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 11-02-2010 14:59
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I thought (I may be wrong here) that you need, like you've said, three guys for an effective train. Last guy being the best sprinter, second to last/middle man being a good sprinter, and good on the flat (75 flat at least) and your lead man, to pull them into position with 3-4km to go being amazing on the flat, rather than being a good sprinter. So 80+ flat would be beneficial to say the least!
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| depappie |
Posted on 11-02-2010 16:30
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im playing with sky at the moment in Tour of Ireland, similar to you as its very flat race i like to have cummings using dot and 99 around 7-8km to go, then Thomas following him with sprint follow, then Downing sprint following Thomas, then around 3km to Thomas sprints, then around 1.5km to go Downing sprints. If i was you i would have Sutton dot man, then whoever is worse sprinter between Swift and Downing, then your main sprinter. Problem you have is the quality of the other teams must be very high, so getting infront with your train must be very very hard
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| 7king |
Posted on 11-02-2010 18:39
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Thanks for answers, maybe my problem is i start the dot too early and they get tired too fast. The other teams aren't really that good, that's what's so weird.. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 11-02-2010 18:51
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Best way I find is to latch on to someone else when they're moving at speed up thru' the pack, then setting up your own train from there.  |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-02-2010 19:01
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fenian_1234 wrote:
Best way I find is to latch on to someone else when they're moving at speed up thru' the pack, then setting up your own train from there.
I normally have my lead-out man follow someone in the chase train up front, they get farther up, and you don't have to worry about being knocked off the train while being pulled to the front. Then, I put my leadout man on the dot, and there I am. |
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| 7king |
Posted on 12-02-2010 14:26
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Another lead-out man problem...
When I have a 4-man train and things are looking pretty good, my lead-out man (i'm now talking about the man in front of the sprinter) is always running out of energy too early, and my sprinter needs another wheel to be in position for the sprint, and 99% of the cases he has lost too much speed and ends up far behind. Anyone with similar experience? |
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| 7king |
Posted on 13-02-2010 11:35
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I appreciate all answers. Can someone take a look at my latest question? I'm sure someone can help me with this |
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| lechia |
Posted on 17-02-2010 19:17
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If your leadout man is left with little energy, he's either not in good shape or there were some hills along the way and he burned up his energy that way.
If neither is the case, then you must be doing something wrong with the leadout. You should only use your leadout man to sprint in the last 2.5 km at the most (optimally 2km). Then sprint with the top sprinter when the leadout guy is out of the sprint bar. If your leadout guy is in good shape and has a good FL rating, he should be able to follow wheels and not use up all of his energy until the sprint. |
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| lechia |
Posted on 17-02-2010 19:20
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I use Deadpool's strategy. I put the first guy of my train on the 3rd or 4th guy of the peleton arrow and stay there until he gets to the front. Then I'd put my first leadout guy on dot 99%. By then, there should only be about 5km to go and not the 12km when sprint setup can start, which should mean that my leadout is not exhausted yet. |
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| depappie |
Posted on 17-02-2010 22:00
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sometimes you just have to except you didn't get the luck on th day, maybe missing the good wheels or your team just not strong enough, thats why we love the game, is all unpredicable. |
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| neve57 |
Posted on 24-02-2010 00:39
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example. I've got roulston on 76 on flat and 74 at resistance to drag them up in front when it's 6-7km to go. While he is doing that someone on the team is protecting him, It is incredible to see how much power he saves on that. And at 4km goss takes over and smash it all. Start's the sprint at 3km, 2 - 2,5km lancaster gives it all. And from 1 - 1,5km Hushovd takes it home ! works every single time! |
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| 7king |
Posted on 27-04-2010 08:51
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Has anyone ever had a succesful train on extreme? |
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| Batista15 |
Posted on 27-04-2010 08:57
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7king wrote:
Has anyone ever had a succesful train on extreme?
Yeah!
I put Tony Martin to the front while,Eisel and Cavendish are following.
With 3-4 kilometres to go Eisel takes the lead and with only 2-1,5 km to go Cavendish is makes his move |
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