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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-08-2008 16:49
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In a race with no radios, what happens? Bouyges wins, of course.
Was it a sprint? With that freakishly long nose, FĂ©drigo has the advantage in any sprint for the line.
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 25-08-2008 16:52
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I would say so. This is what CQRanking says
1. FEDRIGO Pierrick
2. BALLAN Alessandro
3. LOPEZ GARCIA David
4. DAVIS Allan
5. ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
6. GERARD Arnaud
7. VAN AVERMAET Greg
8. FEILLU Romain
9. LEQUATRE Geoffroy
10. MORI Manuele
EDIT: And in Cyclingnews it's this
1 Perrick Fedrigo (Fra) Bouygues Telecom
2 Alessandro Ballan (Ita) Lampre
3 David Lopez Garcia (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne
4 Jose Jaoquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne
5 Arnaud Gerard (Fra) Francaise des Jeux
6 Greg Van Avermaet (Bel) Silence Lotto
7 Manuele Mori (Ita) Scott-American Beef
Edited by jolly_antunes on 25-08-2008 16:53
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 25-08-2008 18:15
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On cyclingnews it's like this
1 Perrick Fedrigo (Fra) Bouygues Telecom
2 Alessandro Ballan (Ita) Lampre
3 David Lopez Garcia (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne
4 Allan Davis (Aus) Mitsubishi-Jartazi
5 Jose Jaoquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne
6 Arnaud Gerard (Fra) Francaise des Jeux
7 Greg Van Avermaet (Bel) Silence Lotto
8 Romain Feillu (Fra) Agritubel
9 Geoffry Lequatre (Fra) Agritubel
10 Manuele Mori (Ita) Scott-American Beef
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| Marginalo |
Posted on 25-08-2008 18:57
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omg, epic fail for the eneco tour. Plz just destroy the Tour and everything connected to it. For the love of all that is sacred... plz... |
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| EBH |
Posted on 25-08-2008 19:55
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Ruben wrote:
Oh wait:
57 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Team Columbia at 14.45
today  so Hagen lost in the echelons... great
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Yayyyyy, the world is back the way it should beeeee 
Just wait, Hagen will easily gain those 15 minutes in the time-trial. |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 25-08-2008 22:48
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EBH wrote:
Just wait, Hagen will easily gain those 15 minutes in the time-trial.
Haha He will get them back easily. Bad stage for Edvald today but shit happens, I hope he wins the tt so all the haters can be stunned by his greatness
And for people who say norwegians are crazy about Edvald, it's because:
1: He is probably the greatest talent ever from Norway
2: Cycling is becoming more and more popular in here, therefore people wants to see a norwegian that is really good, besides Hushovd and Arvesen.
3: Boasson Hagen has been hailed as spectacular talent in the norwegian press.
4: We are passionate about sport in general and we like to hail our own athletes more than athletes from other countries who are maybe better.
And as for the Edvald GC shit, im not saying more about it, I know that judging by his performance right now he can not be considered a future GC contender, but I must be allowed to have a hope, afterall Norway has never had a podium place in a GC before. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 25-08-2008 22:54
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Goldberger wrote:
And as for the Edvald GC shit, im not saying more about it, I know that judging by his performance right now he can not be considered a future GC contender, but I must be allowed to have a hope , afterall Norway has never had a podium place in a GC before.
Neither has South Africa but no one is saying Robbie Hunter is going to win the tour
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:03
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mb2612 wrote:
Goldberger wrote:
And as for the Edvald GC shit, im not saying more about it, I know that judging by his performance right now he can not be considered a future GC contender, but I must be allowed to have a hope , afterall Norway has never had a podium place in a GC before.
Neither has South Africa but no one is saying Robbie Hunter is going to win the tour
Edvald is a great rider, but I think he's too much like the prototype young riders nowadays. He's got a great TT and a wicked sprint, but he's not good enough at either one to be considered, as the British would say "top-class." I think Edvald could be a great cobblestone's rider, as he reminds me of Fabian Cancellara, except he sprints better. |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:10
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mb2612 wrote:
Neither has South Africa but no one is saying Robbie Hunter is going to win the tour
No, but I distinctly remember South Africa having a talented young gentleman by the name of John-Lee Augustyn who was first over the 2800m climb Col D'Bonette in this years tour and raced an overall great debut tour, despite only being 21 years old. But maybe he hasn't shown enough to be considered a GC contender in the future?( first priorety improve downhill skills |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:13
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And btw im pretty much done discussing Edvald in this forum, it seems all of you have just made up your minds that Edvald is just going to be a average rider anyway....... I'm not going to bother anymore. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:14
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Goldberger wrote:
it seems all of you have just made up your minds that Edvald is just going to be a average rider anyway....... I'm not going to bother anymore.
Nobody said any of that, but your bias is blinding you.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:15
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I dont think Edvald's going to be an average rider. But he will never be a GC rider as long as he has the body shape of Hushovd.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:15
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Goldberger wrote:
And btw im pretty much done discussing Edvald in this forum, it seems all of you have just made up your minds that Edvald is just going to be a average rider anyway....... I'm not going to bother anymore.
Not at all, most of us believe that Edvald will be a great rider. However, most of us don't believe that he will become the next Eddy Merckx, which some people (mainly the Norwegians) say he will do. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:18
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For the record, it wouldn't surprise me much if he wins the TT on wednesday.
It's just not the most likely event. But i'll be surprised if he isn't top 5 and mildly surprised if he isn't top 3.
Give him time. he's 20. I know it's extremely hard to believe such a good young rider can flop, but it happens every year. I'm not saying he will. I'm saying it's perfecttly possible that he'll turn out to be crap. And it's perfectly possible he'll become the best rider ever.
It's just more likely that he'll become a very good but not elite rider.
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:28
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he's the next Arvesen! |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:29
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
he's the next Arvesen!
Now thats just a cruel insult my good sir
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 25-08-2008 23:33
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I seriously dont think that many norwegians believe Edvald will be the next Eddy Merckx, just because we like Edvald it doesn't mean that we think he will be the best ever. I do get irretated when people say that norwegian cycling fans only cheer for the norwegian riders and think Hushovd is the best sprinter in the world( which he is far from).
Not all norwegian cycling fans are like that, i for one have never liked Hushovd and Arvesen that much, I have always had other favourite riders. But it seems we are always critized for praising our own riders too much , most really interested norwegian cycling fans do not do that.
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-08-2008 10:31
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Well we get annoyed when people, like yourself, believe he can become a GC rider (as in grand tours and such).
Tristan Hoffman, one of team leaders(managers) of Team Columbia said in our newspaper today: "He is a very strong rider. We know Edvald is a big talent. He can do everything well, except climbing. On pure force he an stay with the peloton for pretty long, but I think he will specialize in cobbled classics and small tours (flat with tt) like this one."
When Hoffman says that about one of his own riders, I think it's very clear Hagen is no climber and will never become a gc-rider.
WE all believe Hagen is a great talent, we all saw him coming since 3/4 years since he was dominating the youth categories. But he is simply not a gc-rider. That's what you refuse to see, and when we tell you, you think we think he is only average, nobody believes that here. Everybody knows Hagen will most certainly become a great rider without bad luck, the point is, he simply is NOT a GC-rider.
Edited by ruben on 26-08-2008 10:34
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-08-2008 10:52
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Changing the subject all of a sudden, I must say, since I decided to update my personal DB with some stats I'd be happy with, I of course have been going through all the races of the season looking at what each rider has done.
And I must say I now have a new found respect for Bernhard Eisel. He is not only a greatly underrated rider, he is definitely the most attacking rider in the peloton. It's unbelievable how often he's attacking. (except for the second part of the season where he's been working as a lead out man)
Edited by issoisso on 26-08-2008 10:56
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Posted on 26-08-2008 12:49
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issoisso wrote:
Changing the subject all of a sudden, I must say, since I decided to update my personal DB with some stats I'd be happy with, I of course have been going through all the races of the season looking at what each rider has done.
And I must say I now have a new found respect for Bernhard Eisel. He is not only a greatly underrated rider, he is definitely the most attacking rider in the peloton. It's unbelievable how often he's attacking. (except for the second part of the season where he's been working as a lead out man)
The most insane attacking season of all time has to be Danny Pate, back when he rode for Jelly Belly in 2005. He literally attacked, and i am not making this up, in 90% of his race days. Since then he's calmed down a little, but he still attacks a lot. But in 2005, if you can find race reports, he was in the breakaway it seemed every single day. |
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