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Café Pedro 5: Slightly Anticlimatic
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 06:22
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TheManxMissile wrote:
What else do guys discus in cafes? 
You know, future of the world, wars and how it was with that girl - not how to get her in bed, at least i did not need someone to advice me.
And alcohol is a hard drug? Come on Ian, are you amish or what? You like all the junkies and drunks who made that special music, they would never do that without it. 
Everything is bad when overused (drugs, power, sun, cars).
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 06:28
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Crommy wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Marine Le Pen is the second female politician favoured by the French in a recent poll.
Scary shit. 
Female politicians = bad.
Or maybe I just think that way because I live in Australia and our PM is a disgrace.
That's quite a statement. I think you've managed to be misogynistic, sexist and guilty of gross generalisation in the space of three words and a symbol.
Marie Le Pen's popularity should be feared because of her (and her party's) ideology. Not her vagina.
No, he is being very true. Almost every female politician i heard about,sucked. But also almost every male politician sucks, so you are both right...
I see we have the feminist league here, every time someone says something about women, there is a group saying SEXIST (same with racism)! And nobody have problem with posting pictures of half-naked women, that is sexist. Unlike speaking about something that women cant do so well like men (there is also ton of things women do better than men).
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-03-2013 08:43
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
What else do guys discus in cafes?
You know, future of the world, wars and how it was with that girl - not how to get her in bed, at least i did not need someone to advice me.
And alcohol is a hard drug? Come on Ian, are you amish or what? You like all the junkies and drunks who made that special music, they would never do that without it.
Everything is bad when overused (drugs, power, sun, cars).
Well, what's a man without a little contradiction? Everyone can do whatever the hell they want. But alcohol kills way too many people nowadays it should be considered as it is: a hard drug, a killer.
And I may like Morrison, his music and respect his intelligence, I still think he was a real asshole to a lot of people and a pathetic drunk at times I wouldn't want to be a friend of his, really
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 08:56
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He sure was an asshole. 
But this was not only about alcohol, but things like acid and others opening the Doors of perception...
I agree alcohol is the drug and killer (that is why i dont get marijuana is banned when alcohol is not-money is the answer). I drink lots of beer sometimes, but that is not much of a risk though. Also wine is my favourite. But i dont drink shots like 5 years now.
But cars are also killers, anyone here also without driving license from conviction? As that is my case...i ride bike, go for a walk or take train or bus. Of course some days i am going by car as the passenger,but i hate them and try to avoid that.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-03-2013 09:00
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Well, acid doesn't harm anyone (except bad trips, maybe), and the same goes for marijuana, if not overused like anything else. And I've no problem with musicians from those times using that, because they created the greatest 10 years of music together
Agree with the cars. I drive myself, but I might be the only one in Belgium who never crosses the speed limit, I just like cruising around, easy-like. At night, with some nice music in the car, at an easy pace, that's me riding |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 09:05
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Ian Butler wrote:
Agree with the cars. I drive myself, but I might be the only one in Belgium who never crosses the speed limit, I just like cruising around, easy-like. At night, with some nice music in the car, at an easy pace, that's me riding
I love this part, i can almost imagine you riding it cool.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 04-03-2013 09:05
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| Crommy |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:19
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Marine Le Pen is the second female politician favoured by the French in a recent poll.
Scary shit.
Female politicians = bad.
Or maybe I just think that way because I live in Australia and our PM is a disgrace.
That's quite a statement. I think you've managed to be misogynistic, sexist and guilty of gross generalisation in the space of three words and a symbol.
Marie Le Pen's popularity should be feared because of her (and her party's) ideology. Not her vagina.
No, he is being very true. Almost every female politician i heard about,sucked. But also almost every male politician sucks, so you are both right...
I see we have the feminist league here, every time someone says something about women, there is a group saying SEXIST (same with racism)! And nobody have problem with posting pictures of half-naked women, that is sexist. Unlike speaking about something that women cant do so well like men (there is also ton of things women do better than men).
Female politicians = bad.
You don't think that's sexist?
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:41
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What he should've said was this:
politicians = bad |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:42
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Yes, it can be explained as sexist, but still it is true. I dont see a single reason why it cannot be said, if we are not trying to be super politically correct hipsters (who i dont like).
I see tons of more sexist things every day. Also saying for example that there should be certain percentage of women somewhere in politics or jobs, is sexist even more, because abilities are important (as you said).
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:44
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Ian Butler wrote:
What he should've said was this:
politicians = bad
That would have completly different sense from what he wanted to say.
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| ReimToast |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:51
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 04-03-2013 10:51
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I see tons of more sexist things every day. Also saying for example that there should be certain percentage of women somewhere in politics or jobs, is sexist even more, because abilities are important (as you said).
But if the men who are already dominant in parliament/business etc. can't see past their prejudices and judge women for their abilities and not view them as lesser beings then quotas are an effective way of bringing things in line and giving women the opportunity to demonstrate that they are just as able as the men who are in charge. |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 04-03-2013 11:07
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I see tons of more sexist things every day. Also saying for example that there should be certain percentage of women somewhere in politics or jobs, is sexist even more, because abilities are important (as you said)
That I agree with. People should be judged on who they are, not on their gender.
This on the other hand
Yes, it can be explained as sexist, but still it is true. I dont see a single reason why it cannot be said, if we are not trying to be super politically correct hipsters (who i dont like).
is moronic. The argument was that saying because a politician is female, she is bad, is sexist. Saying that's sexist is not trying to be "super politically correct hipsters". What an utterly ridiculous statement from you.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 11:10
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I moved my answer to Difficult topics thread, more suitable imo.
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Posted on 04-03-2013 11:26
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TBH, here, in Australia, pre - Gillard, there were many interviews with people, and a surprisingly large amount of answers were "I'm voting for Gillard because she's a female" or something along those lines.
I agree that politicians shouldn't be judged on their sex, but historically female politicians haven't had a large amount of success, and are in most cases, a mistake to have voted in (in democracies) compared to their male counterparts at the time. What is required is a politician to go against the norms.
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Posted on 04-03-2013 11:45
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Angela Merkel is very successful and popular here in Germany. She's regularly the most popular politician (well, behind our Federal President Gauck, but he has no executive powers). I think it's mostly because of her calm attitude and supposed fortitude. She almost never says anything even slightly controversial or provocative, so she's very hard to attack personally. The popularity of her conservative party has been sinking, but not her personal popularity. While I don't really like Merkel, I do think that this calm and more factual way of making politics that women often have can be something constructive.
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Posted on 04-03-2013 11:47
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Yes, Angela seems to be one of the exceptions to the general "chicks suck at politics" ideology that seems to have taken place in modern politics.
Edit: Apparently, chicks suck politics. Accidentally a word.
Edited by ReimToast on 04-03-2013 11:53
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-03-2013 12:04
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ReimToast wrote:
Yes, Angela seems to be one of the exceptions to the general "chicks suck at politics" ideology that seems to have taken place in modern politics.
Edit: Apparently, chicks suck politics. Accidentally a word.
Monica says hello.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 04-03-2013 17:41
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it apperantly cost €3000 to repair my normal road bike 
and I'm going to Thialf this sunday, Speed Skating
Edited by SSJ2Luigi on 04-03-2013 17:42
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 04-03-2013 18:18
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Is it just me, or has Cyclingnews suddenly changed the website from centered to left-aligned?
Annoys the crap out of me
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