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vismitananda
I am playing in hard settings and using IAM cycling at the moment. I managed to acquire Fabian Cancellara, Thibaut Pinot, and Mathias Frank from their respective teams to ride for us in the next season. Then can't believe I won Milan-San Remo w/ Elmiger and Amstel Gold Race w/ Haussler. Then I manage to win 95 races as of the moment and I'm still in August doing some small races.

As of the moment the Vuelta is doing good. Ballan has wore the Red leader's jersey as they've won the 1st stage w/c is a TTT. After stage 8 Daniel Moreno wore the leader's jersey after winning the stage and trailing behind his leader Joaquim Rodriguez at +18".

I asked every GT for a wildcard but they wouldn't allow us, hence I dominated other Pro Tour races. Next season we'll difinitely ride every GT as we are moving to Pro Tour w/ Androni in exchange of FDJ and Argos who're going to be relegated.

In other GT's Here are the results;

TDF:
1st Valverde
2nd Rodriguez
3rd Froome
Points: Griepel
Mountain: Rodriguez
Young: Pinot

Giro:
1st S. Sanchez
2nd Wiggins
3rd Hesjedal
Points: Sagan
Mountain: Sella
Youg: Van Garderen

Too bad Nibbles abandoned stage 5 at the Giro because of injury.
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Shonak
nielsboy1998 wrote:
Nice giro win. What are the Stats of Caroli. He sounds great!


Thanks. Yeah, it was a really tough and rewarding Giro.
Caroli is 24 right now, going to be 25 at the end of the season. He has currently 81 in MT (potential 82), 76 in Hill (pot. about 80), abot 66 in Flat (pot. about 70) and TT (pot. about 67) and Prologue. His Acc. is 72 (pot. about 80), 70 downhill, CBS 63, Sprint 66 (pot. about 69). 74 in Reg, 67 in... erm, fighting spirit, not sure about the english correct english term? and 70ish in the two secondary stats left.
Only a handful of riders have 82 in MT (Contador, Froome, Nibali, Quintana, earlier Purito) and thus Caroli can be considered as one of the best climbers (just as my other Lampre riders, like Anacona, Aru, Rosa who all rank at 80 MT). Other 81-climbers are Uran, Mollema, Majka and so forth.

@vismitananda: Valverde winning the TdF surely can only happen when you are forced to sim through all stages. In my careers, it usually happens that Valverde misses a vital split or so in any Grand Tour, just like in real.
Edited by Shonak on 24-10-2013 21:38
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nielsboy1998
That are Nice Stats for a Young rider! In my carreer is Rodriguez the best Climber (MO 84). Followed by Froome, Martin, Nibali, Gesink, and A.Schleck (83). Some suprising talents are Chernetsiky (80 in MO), S.Clarke (81 in Hill), Puccio (79 in Hill with 3 stars left) and P.Guido. A self scouted rider with 76 in MO and still 4 stars left. Kelderman Development sucks. His only improvement is MO from 77 to 78 and TT from 76 to 77.
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Shonak
Yup. I was actually surprised by how fast he progressed (10* climber coach though). Others talents of mine didn't even come close to improving so fast. Guess I got lucky with him.

Puccio sounds great. In my old career, he had quite a lot talent in CBS, did this change? The self scouted rider with 76 MT should become a beast in no-time. Smile

I prefer lower stats though (82 as max. in MT for example) since it makes the mountains way slower and more dramatic to ride and increases the chances of breakaways. I use the Post TdF-update and only had to lower Froome and increase some other riders like Contador. Plus, Blueprints young rider files have 82 as max I think. I can only recommend it for future careers. Smile
Edited by Shonak on 25-10-2013 01:36
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Blueprint
That was an epic finale of the Giro, nice to have races like that. Haven't been able to play PCM at all lately and not seeing any progress about that anytime soon Sad
 
nielsboy1998
Shonak wrote:
Yup. I was actually surprised by how fast he progressed (10* climber coach though). Others talents of mine didn't even come close to improving so fast. Guess I got lucky with him.

Puccio sounds great. In my old career, he had quite a lot talent in CBS, did this change? The self scouted rider with 76 MT should become a beast in no-time. Smile

I prefer lower stats though (82 as max. in MT for example) since it makes the mountains way slower and more dramatic to ride and increases the chances of breakaways. I use the Post TdF-update and only had to lower Froome and increase some other riders like Contador. Plus, Blueprints young rider files have 82 as max I think. I can only recommend it for future careers. Smile


With the databese editor I have saw what the potential is of Guido. His max at mountains is 84 Shock. A really nice talent. This year I don't let hij race to much. The only races he ride at the WT is Catalunya. But for the august/september I don't know if I let him ride the vuelta or portugal and then Canada.

Always if I make the stats in my databese, then is 83 the higest. So by MO is that Quintana, Froome, Rodriguez, and Nibali. At hills Rodriguez, and Gilbert. TT is Martin and Wiggins. COB is Cancellara, Boonen and Vanmarcke and the sprint I have Kittel.
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nielsboy1998
Just raced the most weirdest stage ever in my PCM-live! It was a mountain race with wind arround the 50-70! Thr=e race was Vuelta a Catalunya stage 3. Here a short story about it:

In my selection I have: Sicard: the Teamleader, Ellisonde: a important team mate, Frank: teammate, Bardet: teammate, Castroviejo: For the ITT and the TTT, Riblon: Free role, Coquard: the sprinter, and Stef Clement: Getting back from a injury. I saw that the wind was strong with 50-70 and I thought: Let's do Crazy! Make a strong race Grin. I lead the peloton with Frank, Bardet, Castroviejo, Coquard, and Stef Clement with pace 80. Sicard, Riblon and Ellisonde were holding his position. After 20km, there was a group that came at 1'00. The doesn't come back. After many kilometers was this the situation:
1. Ellisonde with pace 80 and Sicard holding his position
2. A group with Wiggins, S Sanchez, LL Sanchez, Sagan, Zoidl, and Sagan +1'00"
3. A group with Intxausti, Spilak, Bouet, Machado and G.Izargirre +2'00"
... Some groups with riders who can't follow the pace
4. A group with Froome +7'00"
... were some groups
5. A group with Van garderen +9'00"

Some kilometers later the final start at 30km before the finish. This was the situation:
1. LL Sanchez
2. Group with Sicard, Wiggins, S Sanchez, Sagan, and kwiatowski. +2'00

Then the last mountain begon. LL Sanchez was leading with 1'30". Followed by Sicard and Wiggins.

With 2km Sicard and Wiggins came by LL Sanchez and get a gap of 10". Then there was a long sprint won by Sicard. This were the results:

1. Sicard
2. Wiggins +46"
3. LL Sanchez +58"
4. Intauxsti +4'43"
5. Kwiatowski +5'05
6. Spilak +6'27"
7. Bouet s.t.
8. Machado +6'38"
9. G.Izargirre s.t.
10. Zoidl s.t.
11. P.Sagan s.t.
12. Kiryienka s.t
...
17. Kisverlovski +11'43"
18. Ellisonde +11'59"
...
21. De Gendt +12'31"
22. Majka s.t.
25. S. Sanchez s.t
26. Leipheimer s.t.
...
36. Froome +17'33"
...
44. Zubeldia +20'01"
56. Fuglsang s.t.
...
82. Van Garderen +27'24"
...
The last one: 192. Keith Lucas +50'55"

The weirdest stage ever!
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HaRe
So I started a new career with FDJ. Casar and Roy as leaders in most of the continental races/and some WT races. We started pretty badly. Casar was getting some TOP 10 GC finishes in WT and CT races. At the cobbles our best place was 8th Mathieu Ladagnous (E3). At the hilly classics our best was Pierrick Fedrigo with 16th at Amstel and 16th at La Fleche. Then until the Giro we had a small amount of victories(0 victories in WT races). So for the Giro leader was Pinot (He wanted to do Giro-Tour in this season). At stage 5 we won 1 stage (Roy from a breakaway, and then Pinot won 1 stage). Pinot finished 13th and won young rider jersey. Then at Tour de Suisse Pinot won 1 stage and finished 4th GC. At the tour we sent Demare, Bouhanni, Pinot, Ellisonde, etc. A strong squad. At the first stage Demare managed to outsprint Cavendish!!(Bouhanni blocked Cav a little Grin). At stage 2 Demare won! Yes he managed to stay in the peloton even after such a hard stage. Then at Ax3 stage Pinot took the victory and the leaders jersey!! The next day had no changes. Then the ITT where I was thinking that Pinot will lose the jersey, but no! Pinot finished 7th (Had +4 on the day!) And managed to have an advantage of 1 minute! (2nd was Gesink, 3rd Purito 4th Valverde 5th Contador 6th Evans... etc)
At Mont Ventoux Pinot took another victory in front of Valverde and had 2 minute lead(!). At the Alpe d Huez stage Pinot had a bad day but managed to keep the jersey with a little advantage of 4 seconds! (2nd Valverde 3rd Evans). At the stage 19 Pinot lost the jersey and now was 8 seconds behind Valverde while Evans was 3rd at 12 seconds. So the last mountain stage was decisive. Pinot managed to (once again) win the stage and guess what.. take the jersey!! And the last stage... PINOT FELL! I sent my whole team and he lost some time but some small time! So at the end I won the TDF in front of Valverde and Evans Grin. Quintana was not in shape, neither Froome was he finished 6th. Contador got 5th while Purito 4th. And now I am preparing for the vuelta(!). Banana
 
nielsboy1998
HaRe wrote:
So I started a new career with FDJ. Casar and Roy as leaders in most of the continental races/and some WT races. We started pretty badly. Casar was getting some TOP 10 GC finishes in WT and CT races. At the cobbles our best place was 8th Mathieu Ladagnous (E3). At the hilly classics our best was Pierrick Fedrigo with 16th at Amstel and 16th at La Fleche. Then until the Giro we had a small amount of victories(0 victories in WT races). So for the Giro leader was Pinot (He wanted to do Giro-Tour in this season). At stage 5 we won 1 stage (Roy from a breakaway, and then Pinot won 1 stage). Pinot finished 13th and won young rider jersey. Then at Tour de Suisse Pinot won 1 stage and finished 4th GC. At the tour we sent Demare, Bouhanni, Pinot, Ellisonde, etc. A strong squad. At the first stage Demare managed to outsprint Cavendish!!(Bouhanni blocked Cav a little Grin). At stage 2 Demare won! Yes he managed to stay in the peloton even after such a hard stage. Then at Ax3 stage Pinot took the victory and the leaders jersey!! The next day had no changes. Then the ITT where I was thinking that Pinot will lose the jersey, but no! Pinot finished 7th (Had +4 on the day!) And managed to have an advantage of 1 minute! (2nd was Gesink, 3rd Purito 4th Valverde 5th Contador 6th Evans... etc)
At Mont Ventoux Pinot took another victory in front of Valverde and had 2 minute lead(!). At the Alpe d Huez stage Pinot had a bad day but managed to keep the jersey with a little advantage of 4 seconds! (2nd Valverde 3rd Evans). At the stage 19 Pinot lost the jersey and now was 8 seconds behind Valverde while Evans was 3rd at 12 seconds. So the last mountain stage was decisive. Pinot managed to (once again) win the stage and guess what.. take the jersey!! And the last stage... PINOT FELL! I sent my whole team and he lost some time but some small time! So at the end I won the TDF in front of Valverde and Evans Grin. Quintana was not in shape, neither Froome was he finished 6th. Contador got 5th while Purito 4th. And now I am preparing for the vuelta(!). Banana


Sounds like a great carreer. Which difficulty did you play?
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Dippofix
Wow, nice win! Leading a race and then falling on the last stage is something i really dread. Luckily enough it hasn't happend yet to me, and you seem to have been lucky too.
As for my Guinness Career, i've reached the NCs and i think i'll sign Pozzato for next Season. Good all-rounder, and i don't really want a sprinter, because then i'd have to Play all flat stages. The only other Thing i'm thinking of is editing Roche's contract so that he stays.
 
HaRe
@nielsboy1998 I play at Normal.
 
Shonak
Dippofix wrote:
The only other Thing i'm thinking of is editing Roche's contract so that he stays.


Actually, Aru told me in January or February that he thinks about other offers and now in June he came to me for a contract renewal. So riders can change their mind, but I suppose this is mostly up to luck. If you want to keep him, then by all means, just edit the database. The game should be fun for you to play and seeing Roche 2-3 years in a continental team just sucks (he did it at my old Saxo career I think). A sure way of keeping riders is to prolong the contract one season before it runs out.


@HaRe: Nice victory. Even on normal this is quite great since FDJ isn't the strongest squad and neither is Pinot.

@Blueprint: Yeah, I prefer Grand Tours too when it's close until the last day. While Nibali's 5 second defeat at the Tour de France 2014 just sucked (Froome came from 4th place to 1st or so in the last Time Trial), this Giro was from the feeling definitely the closest race because none of the three top-riders were dominating and lost time on different occasions. In the end, Caroli probably just won because of the great cbs-section where he got 2 minutes to Majka and Mollema. Definitely have to improve his flat for the next seasons (hardly any potential left in Time Trial). Maybe then I even have a shot at the Tour in one or three seasons, depends on the route.

On another news: Caroli got a 3rd place at the Crit-Dauph with his late form from the Giro. Also a stage win. Quite some intense racing on the three mountain stages. Contador looks superb for the Tour who won the race. Nibali is in good shape too but he has already so many race days (I changed his rider "persona" from ply_ard to tour_ard) that I doubt he will be a serious contender this season. Froome will probably get into late Tourform.
Edited by Shonak on 25-10-2013 18:33
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HaRe
@Shonak thanks! And yeah FDJ is weak. I mean for e.x. I chase the break with whole team but the break is gaining advantage instead of me cutting the time.. :lol:

Just finished the vuelta. And the winner was Van Garderen! My team got 2x 2nd place (Roy from breakaway) 3x 3rd place (Ellissonde from breakaway...). Ellissonde finished 24th as the best guy in our team xD. Unlucky but at least we will not be relegated. We survived because of the TDF.
 
Dippofix
I'll probably not Keep Roche. If he decides to go to a CT Team though, i'll edit. And the Vuelta is giving me a real Headache atm. Atapuma has 79 MO and 73 HI and sup-par secondary stats. If i'm lucky he'll up both those stats by one by the time the vuelta comes (i'm only a few stages into the tour). And in some CT Race i simmed, Quintana got injured, he won't be back till mid August. So i'll have to have him working for Atapuma, who has dissapointed me in every stage-race so far. His recovery especially is just too low to do anything.

@HaRe: God luck recovering from Rojas-Farrar Syndrome, 2x second and 3x third seems really unlucky. Was Ellissondes Breakaway on the Angliru by the way? Smile
 
HaRe
No. He wasnt allowed to get into the breakaway on angliru Sad
 
nielsboy1998
Here are the NC's of 2013!
CountryRRTT
AustraliaMatthew GossRichie Porte
New SealandGreg HendersonJesse Sergent
ItaliaMatteo MontagutiDomenico Pozzovivo
PortugalFilipe CardosoRui Costa
DanmarkMatti BreschelMichael Morkov
The NetherlandsSebastian LangeveldStef Clement
BelgianBart de ClercqThomas de Gendt
PolandMariusz WiteckiMichael Kwiatowski
SwissFabian CancellaraFabian Cancellara
USATyler FarrarDavid Zabriskie
SlovakianPeter SaganMartin Velits
CzechFrantisek RabonRoman Kreuziger
ColombiaEsteban ChavesWinner Anacona
GermanyMarcel KittelTony Martin
CroatiaRadoslav Rogina
RussiaNikolai TrussovDenis Menchov
SpainIon IzargirreLuis Leon Sanchez
UkrainOleksandr MarynenkoVitaliy Popkov
GreeceIoannis Tamouridis
FranceBenjamin GiraudSylvain Chavanel
AustriaBernhard EiselAndreas Hofer
NorwayEdvald Boasson HagenEdvald Boasson Hagen
CanadaGuillaume BoivinDavid Veilleux
SloveniaLuka MezgecSimon Spilak
Great-BrittainMark CavendishBradley Wiggins
South-AfricaDaryl ImpeyLouis Meintjes
ArgentinaJuan Jose HaedoEduardoSepulveda
SwedenThomas LofkvistGustav Erik Larsson
BelarusYauheni HutarovichKanstantsin Siutsou
LithuaniaEvaldas SiskeviciusIgnatas Konovalovas
IrelandSam BennettNicolas Roche
JapanYukiya ArashiroFumiyuki Beppu
KazakhstanMaxim IglinskyAlexsandr Dyachenko
HungarianPeter KusztorPeter Kusztor
LuxembourgJempy DruckerAndy Schleck
VenezuelaJose RujanoTomas Gil
EstoniaRein TaaramaeTanel Kangert
EritreaJani TeweldeMeron Russom

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Selwink
:lol: at Pozzovivo and Schleck
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nielsboy1998
Selwink wrote:
:lol: at Pozzovivo and Schleck

Pozzovivo has development great in TT. He is now (march 2014) at 76 in TT Shock. And the last 5km were uphill. Schleck won the TT because Jungels was injured. So it was lucky for him Pfft
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HaRe
Andy won a TT? What is this? Is this some kind of a joke? It's not funny...
 
nielsboy1998
HaRe wrote:
Andy won a TT? What is this? Is this some kind of a joke? It's not funny...

This are the TT stats of luxembour Wink
1. Jungels at 77 but was injured then
2. A. Schleck at 71
3. F. Schleck at 69
4. Gausteur at 69
the rest below the 68 Wink
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