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Giro d'Italia Week 3
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:19
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and now it's time for the Italian Andy Schleck to go back into hibernation until next year's giro 
Spoiler heard somewhere Pirazzi does nothing elsewere then the giro
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:23
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:25
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Bak's face is great 
lol I Freired
Edited by SSJ2Luigi on 28-05-2014 16:26
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:25
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Bak 
I've got Zabel'd myself now, sort of. Or Betancur'd, that fits better
Edited by Jesleyh on 28-05-2014 16:26
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:31
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cactus-jack wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Quintana wouldve won yesterday by 2 mins anyway but organisers now ruined their own race. I honestly cant be arsed to watch it anymore.
Yes, of course he would have won. Although not by that margin. I doubt anyone will claim that Hesjedal is the 2nd best climber in this race - and he only lost 7 secs.
Why not? At base of Stelvio gap was 1 min and then at finish it was 4 min. Fact is riders like Uran, Aru, Majka, Pozzo are still young, they cant accelerate and then set strong pace, something that Quintana has shown he can do, not this year but also TdF last year. I know Quintana is also 24 but having had a GC battle already is more mature. In final Km itself Quintana would have got 1min if he was in that group because it was very steep and he is very strong.
As far is Hesjedal is concerned, short climbs and 3 huge climbs and bad day is very different, no reason why Hesjedal would not have been up there.
When Hesjedal only loses 7 secs, and Rolland completely cracks and loses 1'13, then Uran, Aru, Majka and Pozzovivo would never have lost 2 mins on that final climb alone.
No doubt that Quintana would still win the Giro either way, but he would be wearing pink already today.
Where did those extra minutes come from, then? Did they give up?
It would have been an entirely different race.
Everyone would have waited for Quintana to make a move and then responded accordingly.
They could not agree on chasing down the front group, since they were also competitors. The risk of putting in too much effort in the chase and getting dropped by opportunistic competitors weighs more than the potential gain that was present. Losing time to the #1 favorite of the race is a detriment, but not as much as losing time to your direct foes for the 2-7 positions. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:51
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 16:56
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If Quintana takes four minutes the next few stages I can live with the fact that he'll be the overall winner. Although attacking the leader jersey is different than attacking in the leader jersey.
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:05
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MrUfo87 wrote:
If Quintana takes four minutes the next few stages I can live with the fact that he'll be the overall winner. Although attacking the leader jersey is different than attacking in the leader jersey.
I must admit i lost a bit for Quintana after it was proven he went right past the red flag, but i agree if he destroys Uran on the tomorrows mountain stage, Its not a undeserved win.
But as it stand now its a unworthy win and he will always be the "cheating" winner of a giro. |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:21
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MartijnVDD wrote:
Man, and I thought my Bardiani career was unrealistic because I won three stages in the Giro including a flat stage with Pirazzi...
I just started with them! Won San Luis with Pirazzi, and La tropicale amissa Bongo with Zardini. Top 3 with Colbrelli in GP Camaire and decent results in Algarve and Andalucia (top 15 GC).
Best result however is Strade Bianche win with Battaglin!! |
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| Trout80 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:24
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Alakagom wrote:
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:29
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Trout80 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Our guy thought he won
At least it's a start 
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:43
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Was ment to record today's stage to watch later but fecked it up
Any one got highlights of today,and what happened to INCASE YOU MISSED TODAY STAGE videos? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:44
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Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Quintana wouldve won yesterday by 2 mins anyway but organisers now ruined their own race. I honestly cant be arsed to watch it anymore.
Yes, of course he would have won. Although not by that margin. I doubt anyone will claim that Hesjedal is the 2nd best climber in this race - and he only lost 7 secs.
The Giro organizers have ruined their own race.
He would be 2nd overall right now, if not for Stage 1.
I think without that crash he would very likely finish on the podium, assuming he doesn't have a really bad day in this final week.
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:45
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Trout80 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Our guy thought he won
LOL i must admit it looks like a joke more than that he actually thought he was the first
But it was fun nevertheless |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:47
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valverde321 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Quintana wouldve won yesterday by 2 mins anyway but organisers now ruined their own race. I honestly cant be arsed to watch it anymore.
Yes, of course he would have won. Although not by that margin. I doubt anyone will claim that Hesjedal is the 2nd best climber in this race - and he only lost 7 secs.
The Giro organizers have ruined their own race.
He would be 2nd overall right now, if not for Stage 1.
I think without that crash he would very likely finish on the podium, assuming he doesn't have a really bad day in this final week.
I'm pretty sure Hesjedal wouldn't have finished second that stage if he was in the peloton. no way in hell would they have let someone that short in the GC go in the break
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:49
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I agree with Luigi there(one could say that's for a change ). Situation would be a hell of a lot different if Hesjedal didn't lose time in that TTT.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:54
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Quintana wouldve won yesterday by 2 mins anyway but organisers now ruined their own race. I honestly cant be arsed to watch it anymore.
Yes, of course he would have won. Although not by that margin. I doubt anyone will claim that Hesjedal is the 2nd best climber in this race - and he only lost 7 secs.
The Giro organizers have ruined their own race.
He would be 2nd overall right now, if not for Stage 1.
I think without that crash he would very likely finish on the podium, assuming he doesn't have a really bad day in this final week.
I'm pretty sure Hesjedal wouldn't have finished second that stage if he was in the peloton. no way in hell would they have let someone that short in the GC go in the break
You mean when they also let Rolland and Quintana who were even greater GC threats get away as well? I seem to recall Quintana even taking Pink, so Im not sure how you can say they wouldn't have let Hesjedal go. Im sure they wouldn't have wanted him to get in a move like that just as they wouldn't have wanted Quintana to get away, but they did get away.
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 28-05-2014 17:59
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Jacdk wrote:
MrUfo87 wrote:
If Quintana takes four minutes the next few stages I can live with the fact that he'll be the overall winner. Although attacking the leader jersey is different than attacking in the leader jersey.
I must admit i lost a bit for Quintana after it was proven he went right past the red flag, but i agree if he destroys Uran on the tomorrows mountain stage, Its not a undeserved win.
But as it stand now its a unworthy win and he will always be the "cheating" winner of a giro.
That's the thing, he wasn't the only one. And it wasn't even Movistar who attacked at the peak, it was Europcar with Pierre. It's a competition, and the race wasn't neutralized (maybe it should have been, but it wasn't), I don't see why people blame Quintana. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 28-05-2014 18:27
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b3n3v3nt3 wrote:
That's the thing, he wasn't the only one. And it wasn't even Movistar who attacked at the peak, it was Europcar with Pierre. It's a competition, and the race wasn't neutralized (maybe it should have been, but it wasn't), I don't see why people blame Quintana.
You know why riders don't attack if the leader is down or on a break? Because its not the morally white thing to do, its not good sportsmanship to win because the others had a defect.
Its a competition but there are still unwritten rules and also there is such a thing as fair sportsmanship. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 28-05-2014 18:31
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Jacdk wrote:
b3n3v3nt3 wrote:
That's the thing, he wasn't the only one. And it wasn't even Movistar who attacked at the peak, it was Europcar with Pierre. It's a competition, and the race wasn't neutralized (maybe it should have been, but it wasn't), I don't see why people blame Quintana.
You know why riders don't attack if the leader is down or on a break? Because its not the morally white thing to do, its not good sportsmanship to win because the others had a defect.
Its a competition but there are still unwritten rules and also there is such a thing as fair sportsmanship.
The theory that Uran had a defect is new.  |
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