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General Career Discussion 2013
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| atlanta |
Posted on 17-10-2013 03:46
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Never been so dissapointed in my life of PCM, Quintana who as i thought got stronger and stronger throughout the Giro was 23 seconds with 1 MTF and 29km ITT left, i had won the last 2 MTF taking little bits of time from Nibali and he just beat me by 18 seconds now leads by 2 seconds before the ITT(which means zero chance of a win). So annoyed i have Intxausti in 5th and Cappechi was 7th now 8th, as i knew i had an ITT to come i let no break go as i wanted the bonus for the stage win, i also sprinted for Intermediate(probably a bad move. But i even blew Intxausti up he lost like 4 minutes compared to guys ahead and behind and it still did not work i usually just use Amador, and Capecchi to protect Quintana and Intxausti and then after like 2 kms of the last climb just tempo on their own but even using Intxausti to protet Nairo never worked. 4 stage wins, points jersey, Kotm, Young rider, Team and all is missing is Pink . That means Quintana has podiumed all 3 GT's but i wanted the win he came 3rd in Le Tour and 2nd in La Vuelta last year and now 2nd this year in the Giro.
Edited by atlanta on 17-10-2013 03:52
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| itisix |
Posted on 17-10-2013 14:35
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atlanta: You need to write in a more relaxed way, use paragraphs and such. It gets very confusing this way.
Quintana losing to Nibali doesn't look unrealistic at all. We need to think about Quintana and other great riders with not that great TT. It can really cost you a lot. Just look at Andy Schleck, Joaquin Rodriguez and many others.
I myself am playing my second ever GT in PCM2013 (the Vuelta). And, curiously, Quintana is in the lead. Still early days and he has been attacking a lot on those small climbs and hills of the first stages. I wonder why the game AI does this... GC contenders don't really attack on hills in the first early stages.
As for my vuelta, it looks pretty bad as I totally blew the TTT and lost over 2 minutes. I'm about 16th or something and almost 3 minutes down. Quintana mainly is the one to beat. still a lot of non climbers ahead of me so I can take some time back.
Apart from that, I'm finding it stupidly easy to win TTs with a climb at the end. I set my riders to a slower pace and then push it on the climb. Always get a lot of time (1 minute on log TTs), even with half decent TTers.
Edited by itisix on 17-10-2013 14:36
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
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| Masterblaster01 |
Posted on 17-10-2013 15:24
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Atlanta, i think you should take a look at Quintana's fitness and fatigue. Because attacking every day just trying to get some seconds back takes it's toll on your riders. It's better to choose one stage to make your move and the other stages you should just try to stay in the same group and if possible try to get some extra seconds.
When the favorites attack, try putting your remaining teammates (good climbers) on relay at 85. They should be able to get back to the attacking favorites. When they are 'burned out' a bit, put Quintana and the main helper on 85 dot and just drop them all! 
Now you have 2 options:
When you have made a gap put your helper on 85 relay and let Quintana hold position untill the helper is burned out, then put Quintana on 80-85 dot (whatever keeps you away from the pack).
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Make your helper protect Quintana and just steam on with Quintana on 80 dot.
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| itisix |
Posted on 17-10-2013 17:10
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Masterblaster01:
That is about the same as I do. My leader never really attacks. I only attack on big mountain stages after all the helpers are gone or, I stick to the other contenders if I run out of help. Depends a bit on the feel of the race and the shape. Fitness and fatigue are extremely important and people tend to overlook it. I'm not sure if fitness and fatigue goes the same with AI riders, but I have a feeling it's more or less the same, since, like I said before, I've seen an extremely fit Froome on the start of the giro and a very sluggish one towards the end.
Obviously, you have to do it race by race. If you see a rival in trouble, it might be a good time to attack.
Also, you can bluff them. Either fake some attacks to see how it goes or attack with your helpers to force them to chase. if they have limited help soon the leader will have to chase himself. It's all mind games 
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
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| Masterblaster01 |
Posted on 17-10-2013 17:45
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Haha indeed.. Mind games 
Only time i attack is sometimes on a downhill before another climb to gain some seconds to the pack. But mostly i just do that when i have a rider who's not a favorite. I also attack on hilly stages because those are often too short to drop everyone by just using the dot. But the AI seems to have 10 red bars, they keep attacking and attacking 
When i attack once uphill it's done with my rider...
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| atlanta |
Posted on 17-10-2013 22:12
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Thanks for the replys guys but by taking time little by little i dint mean i go all out all the time, i always check fitness etc im very strict on race days etc..., it just annoyed me as for 2 mtf in a row i cracked Nibali end of every stage then BANG all of a sudden he takes 20 seconds out of me. It was just unexpected. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 03:14
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Its the Tour de France 06route made by Bigassi, so if you remember their is 2 massive ITT's, i lost 4 minutes+ to Wiggins in the first 52 km ITT and 3'15" to Froome. So with a 57 km to come next i hope to beat AC but it will be almost impossible i think.
Look at Peraud knicking into the top 10 through being in the 2nd group that brokeaway , Andy Schleck is also back lol, he gained 10 minutes on the previous stage to La Toussiure. Quintana has won the Polka dots.
This was definate a ITT'er Tour though, as Wiggins who is 76/76 is still high up even though he as not been good in the Mountains. Its just unfortunate as on the MTF i been dominant just on the 2 stages that finsh on descend icant win time. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 03:28
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Ha ha you have to laugh at this game dont ya just simmed stage 19 a flat stage before the ITT, guess what? Yes you guessed it Quintana has withdrawn. Fu**ing joke. |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 03:30
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Lucky i wont be continuing aint it lol, after the Daily DB is finished |
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| Masterblaster01 |
Posted on 18-10-2013 03:47
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You can edit your rider back in the race. Just take a look in the Tips and tricks section
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| JayJunior072 |
Posted on 18-10-2013 11:26
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atlanta wrote:
Ha ha you have to laugh at this game dont ya just simmed stage 19 a flat stage before the ITT, guess what? Yes you guessed it Quintana has withdrawn. Fu**ing joke.
Never sim a race, the results can be very unrealistic
"The only thing that stand between you and your dream, is the will to try and the belief that it is actually possible." - Joel Brown
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| schleckfreak |
Posted on 18-10-2013 20:40
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Damn, i wanna play pcm so bad, but i just can't get my self through the planning of my Orica career ;( |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 21:35
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Write guys who shall i be i wanted to be Radio Shack, but only if i edited Andy and Frank quite close to how they use to be like Andy 80/78, and Frank 77/78. By the way the stats are spot on im glad Gesink has good hill, and i have started a carear with all the WT teams and the potentianl looks better, for instnce on Belkin Kelderman had 3 stars for mountain with 75 so at last he will improve.
Same with TJVG and Talanksy they had 2 stars on mountain. So stats are top notch and i know Schleck Bro's dont deserve high stats, i just like'd the cycling in those days with Gesink high and the Schleck Bro's. So what do you guys think i should do, keep the stats as they are so its realistic, or make the Schleck bro's better? I was also thinking of Belkin, Lotto, Astana or Katusha. I just need some ideas's thats all. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 18-10-2013 21:41
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Well, what you like best.
I like having Andy & Fränk just low, but if you prefer them high, why would we stop you?
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:11
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, what you like best.
I like having Andy & Fränk just low, but if you prefer them high, why would we stop you?
Yes i agree they should be low, its just i fancy Radio Shack, for some reason but then their already strong aint they. Im gonna be a team that is not been done yet. |
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| Masterblaster01 |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:12
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What Jesley says. It's your game 
Back in 2010 i just loved Andy Schleck and i was furious when Contador attacked when Andy's chain slipped. If you want to play with the Schlecks of the old days, just edit them! It's your game, with your adjustments
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:17
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Yes thanks mate, but do you think people will follow as i know their not really liked are they. I just fancy the challenge with Andy thats all and i have done 3 dif carears and he only ever has 1 potential star for mountain. It would just be fun trying to get podiums in GT's with him, i would not up him to like 82/81 with like 7 potential i was just thinking 80/77 or 80/78 and make his ITT low so he as to attack. Its just nothing against Horner but i would not like him to leaad for me at the TDF, it would seem wrong with a 42 year old leading the TDF. Ah i just dont no what to do man, grrr.... |
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:30
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You want to make story? I wouldn't take Radioshack, they don't seem to be very popular around here. Maybe Garmin if you want a challenge like that Hesjedal and if it goes really well maybe Martin and Talansky should be able to challenge for Podiums or top 5's in the GTs. And of course Martin might well. get you a win in the Ardennes.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:35
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If you want to write a story it has to be something you want to do. And for some good tips etc. check out the general story discussion thread in the stories section. Oh and cheap ad for the Definitive Story Guide as well
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| atlanta |
Posted on 18-10-2013 22:38
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Yes i was thinking of Garmin i like their leaders,i done Astana on PCM 11 who are ok 1 great GT leader aswell. Ag2r are decent aswell i could hve alot of fun with them. |
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