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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 3
I_Mayo
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.

Throw Conta,Andy,Sanchez to play and Hesjedal would be loosing minutes.The opponents are shite this year Wink


Do you want to discuss this topic again? And how can you even bring Contador's name. The guy is banned for God's sake.
 
ianrussell
johannes-w wrote:
points jersey will be soooo close i think purito needs a least a 4th place tomorow if cav makes it through the mountains


That's right only 4th now to take the points jersey. TV sprint is before the tougher climbs tomorrow though it's still very lumpy. Highly doubt it will happen given the terrain and past form but would be entertaining to see Cavendish going in a break for the points.
Edited by ianrussell on 25-05-2012 17:05
 
roturn
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.

On the other hand this was exactly my thought some years ago, when Kohl climbed with the best. Angry
Hope this one now is different of course. Wink
 
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.

Throw Conta,Andy,Sanchez to play and Hesjedal would be loosing minutes.The opponents are shite this year Wink


And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Fact of the matter is, lackluster competition or not, Canada might win a GT. The world as we know it will seize to exist. Pigs will fly, horses will talk and Hesjedal wins the Giro.
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Pellizotti2
Btw, Avin, do you remember saying this, when I posted my prediction ahead of the Giro? Pfft

Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kreuziger will have to crash to finish behind Hesjedal and Uran Pfft

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ianrussell
roturn wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.

On the other hand this was exactly my thought some years ago, when Kohl climbed with the best. Angry
Hope this one now is different of course. Wink


Well overly extended attacks seem to be a thing of the past (as entertaining as they were - I'm not referring to early attacks here to be clear) and climb times seem to have increased considerably when compared with a few years back as far as I can tell. Good signs though they don't constitute definitive proof.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Btw, Avin, do you remember saying this, when I posted my prediction ahead of the Giro? Pfft

Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kreuziger will have to crash to finish behind Hesjedal and Uran Pfft

Yeah, he crashed to the physical wall Pfft
I dont have the problem with Hesjedal winning, but one cannot overlook that competiton is weak.Still great achievement for Hesjedal to be so close before the last two stages,congrats!
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ruben wrote:
Kreuziger at 10 minutes on the Passo di Giau :lol: this is the best day ever


today is the worst day ever, right? :lol:
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ianrussell
Intxausti finishes alongside the sprinters in the 2nd grupetto going from 6th to 33rd.
 
usto
Intxausti has arrived to the finish with Cavendish 40' after Kreuziger.
This is a bad day, no the two days Hesjedal suffered a little
Edited by usto on 25-05-2012 17:35
 
kumazan
Logical, he was dropped when the Katusha and Liquigas guys in the front were playing cards at the front. He's supposed to have a cold, but damn it has hit him hard.
 
Pellizotti2
Tiralongo with a terrible day as well. 18 minutes behind at the finish.
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Great Ride by Kreuziger ! Smile
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siwi
beagle wrote:
ruben wrote:
Kreuziger at 10 minutes on the Passo di Giau :lol: this is the best day ever


today is the worst day ever, right? :lol:


Nice one.. I love Kreuziger - nice ride by him today. More than nice, i would say fantastic. Amazing. Only a champ, a big big rider, can do something like that just 2 days after such a disappointment.
Edited by siwi on 25-05-2012 18:01
 
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ruben
Why is the worst day ever? All I ever said Kreuziger is no GT contender and that is proven again today.

A stage win where the big guns let him go doesn't change that. Smile It was a good stage win. And this is exactly what Kreuziger can do.

1-week stage races and stage in GT.
But in 3 weeks, he always has 1 or more bad days. Astana bought him to get podium in a GT and they even hoped he could win one.
Kreuziger falls far short of that. So no. Why would it be a bad day? Plz explain Smile
 
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ruben
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.


Hesjedal was way underrated anyway. The guy finished 7th in the Tour, that's about as good Basso past-doping did.
Scarponi never did anything in the Tour even.

Confirms my view that top 6/7 Tour could win the Giro if they went for it
 
kumazan
ruben wrote:
Confirms my view that top 6/7 Tour could win the Giro if they went for it


Cunego disagrees.
 
sam1196
His 7th (6th) place was a unicum so far for him. And Scarponi never really went for Tour...
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johannes-w
ruben wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I see the surprising results as a good sign.

The favourites are much more even than they've been in the past, and a rider like Hesjedal are able to match the top riders like Scarponi and Basso on the climbs. I think that indicates that the sport is much cleaner, with less dominant riders. Like Contador last year.

And obviously also because it's not possible to attack on an earlier climb and win by several minutes anymore.


Hesjedal was way underrated anyway. The guy finished 7th in the Tour, that's about as good Basso past-doping did.
Scarponi never did anything in the Tour even.

Confirms my view that top 6/7 Tour could win the Giro if they went for it


but kreuziger gets 9th in the tour twice and is not anywhere near a gt contender in your opinion?
also he was 6th in a very hard giro last year and is only 26 years old so i would not say he s not a gt contender
 
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