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Posted on 03-05-2009 23:23
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What's wrong with Ciolek? It's like he can't perform if he's designated leader...
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Posted on 04-05-2009 10:12
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Replace Ciolek with Milram.
They have been doing badly all season, except for the Frankfurt City Loop. Only Knees performs on his level. Gerdemann has been dissapointing, Wegmann was even horrible in the 3 ardennes classics, but saved his spring season by winning in Frankfurt. Ciolek has been absent...and also Terpstra has been doing less good then last year |
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Posted on 04-05-2009 10:21
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I would, but the thing is Ciolek with Columbia was insanely good when working for Cavendish at the Tour, but as soon as Cavendish left the Tour he went from 2nd-fastest guy-at-the Tour-behind-Cavendish to just plain slow.
Then he was team leader for the hamburg cyclassics and tour of poland....and he was nowhere.
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Posted on 04-05-2009 11:06
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I heard in some forums that Milram bought the win at Eschborn-Frankfurt City Loop
Wegmann had the flu and was "fit" just before Amstel Gold Race.
How can he then manage to win Frankfurt when he isn´t that fit as Kroon?
I think Ciolek, Gerdemann etc. would perform better when they have instead of van Gerwen and his Bouygues Telecom tactic "get me some more TV presentation" good DS like Riis.
Why should Ciolek sprint when his leader is away?
He worked very hard for Cavendish
I think Ciolek won the bunch sprint at the day where Chavanel won, the day before the last time trial.
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Posted on 04-05-2009 11:07
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Steegmans syndrome..on shape..healthy..still cant perform without Boonen.
Do you can name any stage racer (beside Klöden)..who has been afraid to be leader..?
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Posted on 04-05-2009 13:39
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Steegmans syndrome..on shape..healthy..still cant perform without Boonen.
Do you can name any stage racer (beside Klöden)..who has been afraid to be leader..?
Popovych was a good last man for Lance, but hasnt preformed ever scince, Leipheimer never brought to Rabobank and Gerolsteiner what he did together with Contador. |
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Posted on 04-05-2009 13:59
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Jose Azevedo was also a great help for Lance and also Beloki but when it came to be leader of the Discovery Team for Tour he didn't do pretty well (19th). But besides that "bad" result that year, he performed really good in other races:
- 6th Paris Nice;
- 10th Vuelta al Pais Basco
- 4th Dauphine Libere
(The results were based on Wikipedia so they might be wrong, not the Dauphine though, that's a sure one)
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Posted on 04-05-2009 21:46
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5th in Le Tour also, after slaving away for Lance, if I recall. Not everyone has what it takes to be a leader.
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Posted on 05-05-2009 14:08
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Yeah Azevedo is a total 'leading blooper'. Before going abroad to Discovery he was counted inumerous times as one of the most serious contenders to win Volta a Portugal and everytime he cracked in the Queen Stage ruining all his chances.
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Posted on 05-05-2009 19:01
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Botero took the win in the Colombian ITT Championship:
1 Santiago Botero Echeverry 00.50.09
2 Juan Carlos Lez Marin 1.23
3 Javier de Jesus Zapata Villada 2.13
4 Herbert Gutierrez Garcia 2.18
5 Jaime Lozano 2.28
... and Rujano took the Venezuelan ITT Championship
1 José Humberto Rujano Guillén 00.34.06
2 Carlos Galviz 0.31
3 Victor Moreno 0.37
4 Richard Ochoa Quintero 0.38
5 Ronald Gonzalez 0.55 |
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Posted on 08-05-2009 18:36
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*waits for the first chauvinistic portuguese guy who will say that Rui Costa is god because of today's time trial*
In all seriously though: is the kid going to win the GC in an Hors Category race as a neo-pro? That would be insane
Edited by issoisso on 08-05-2009 18:38
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Posted on 08-05-2009 18:39
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Rui Costa is God!!
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Posted on 08-05-2009 19:18
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What race?
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Posted on 08-05-2009 19:19
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Posted on 08-05-2009 19:54
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oh
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pangare |
Posted on 08-05-2009 20:50
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Oh My God
Rujano winning a time trial ? The world is insane or the rest of the field were 50 year old ciclotourists ?
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Posted on 08-05-2009 20:52
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pangare wrote:
Oh My God
Rujano winning a time trial ? The world is insane or the rest of the field were 50 year old ciclotourists ?
P.S - Rui Costa
Its the Venezuelan championships ... can you name a time trialist from Venezuela better than Rujano? |
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Posted on 08-05-2009 20:53
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SportingNonsense wrote:
pangare wrote:
Oh My God
Rujano winning a time trial ? The world is insane or the rest of the field were 50 year old ciclotourists ?
P.S - Rui Costa
Its the Venezuelan championships ... can you name a time trialist from Venezuela better than Rujano?
Better? Hell, can you name any time trialist from Venezuela?
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Posted on 08-05-2009 20:54
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Actually, Rujano is a reasonably good time triallist. He's about as good as Valverde or Samuel Sánchez.
This was actually a very poor performance for him.
EDIT: bear in mind that pretty much every race he's entered since the 2005 Giro has been a below average performance. Back then he was consistently beating guys like Pinotti.
Edited by issoisso on 08-05-2009 20:59
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Posted on 08-05-2009 21:21
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issoisso wrote:
EDIT: bear in mind that pretty much every race he's entered since the 2005 Giro has been a below average performance. Back then he was consistently beating guys like Pinotti.
yeah nothing since then, 0. So shall we think that he just was in his best form ever in his life that won't happen again or that he had 'someone' to help him with cookies?
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