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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-07-2008 23:59
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Tom should shut up..what he has shown. He should be american after Armstrong...and still far-far from it.
And this blog thing...jealous speaking.
Vnade Velde already has done much more with one year..what Tom boy has trying for years. Ofcorse injures etc. etc. and I finish has I am started ..shut up Tom. |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 15-07-2008 07:04
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Tom ? who is Tom ? where is he know ? ahhh yea back in USA ....Tom Danielson is the "best" climber ....he talks a lot (american) and he is the real shit ! he manages to be injured every single time and when the team puts pression on him starts blaming them for his pathetic insucces.
Tom Danielson is just a shadow of a rider ....i bet 10 euro he will do crap untill he retires.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 15-07-2008 08:28
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Garmin Results at Cascade Classic
1. Levi Leipheimer 14h14r42;35r43;
6. Blake Caldwell +3r42;10r43;
9. Peter Stetina +4r42;05r43;
10. Tom Peterson +4r42;11r43;
12. Pat McCarty +4r42;38r43;
15. Steven Cozza +5r42;34r43;
32. Tom Danielson +10r42;04r43;
**64. Caleb Fairly VMG/Felt +18r42;51r43;
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2008 08:32
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While the entire cycling world was focusing on the Schleck brothers at the Tour de France, the other Luxembourger, Kim Kirchen, had stolen Frank and Andy's thunder. For a country with just four inhabitants, to have three of them riding the Tour is pretty special.
When cyclingnews screws up, they REALLY screw up
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| fefj |
Posted on 15-07-2008 08:54
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issoisso wrote:
While the entire cycling world was focusing on the Schleck brothers at the Tour de France, the other Luxembourger, Kim Kirchen, had stolen Frank and Andy's thunder. For a country with just four inhabitants, to have three of them riding the Tour is pretty special.
When cyclingnews screws up, they REALLY screw up
 So they have no parents, family or what ? |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-07-2008 09:44
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issoisso wrote:
While the entire cycling world was focusing on the Schleck brothers at the Tour de France, the other Luxembourger, Kim Kirchen, had stolen Frank and Andy's thunder. For a country with just four inhabitants, to have three of them riding the Tour is pretty special.
When cyclingnews screws up, they REALLY screw up
Well you say that but they aren't really that far off
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 15-07-2008 10:05
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issoisso wrote:
While the entire cycling world was focusing on the Schleck brothers at the Tour de France, the other Luxembourger, Kim Kirchen, had stolen Frank and Andy's thunder. For a country with just four inhabitants, to have three of them riding the Tour is pretty special.
When cyclingnews screws up, they REALLY screw up
Lol what the hell. Maybe thats the aussie's for ya. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-07-2008 10:42
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I expect a Saunier 1-2-3 in Paris |
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| Dankan |
Posted on 15-07-2008 10:46
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Dankan, after today I demand that both Kohl and Vandevelde have at least 77 MO in any new DB
Actually, Christian already had 78 after Super-Besse...
I think this will be a matter of six: Evans, Menchov, Sastre, Schleck I, Riccò and... if you allow me to say this, JJ Cobo. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2008 10:49
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Dankan wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Dankan, after today I demand that both Kohl and Vandevelde have at least 77 MO in any new DB
Actually, Christian already had 78 after Super-Besse...
I think this will be a matter of six: Evans, Menchov, Sastre, Schleck I, Riccò and... if you allow me to say this, JJ Cobo.
the Super-bésse stage is 0.25 mountain, as defined in the XML. meaning the hilly stat matters a lot more. which makes sense, considering Schumacher was there...
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-07-2008 10:52
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Yes, but Schumacher might have used his energy gel! |
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Posted on 15-07-2008 10:58
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And Riccò had his first +5 day there, ahead of Valverde (-1) and Evans (always +5). |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 15-07-2008 11:13
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Ruben wrote:
I expect a Saunier 1-2-3 in Paris
You realy must hate rest of the punch...and want to punish us.  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2008 11:15
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In case no one noticed, Evans screamed out "I have a green moment!!!" yesterday before attacking...
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-07-2008 11:42
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Yeah, but than Menchov (also +5), had a green moment just seconds later, just when you think he let Evans go for good |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2008 12:00
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Ruben wrote:
Yeah, but than Menchov (also +5), had a green moment just seconds later, just when you think he let Evans go for good
Now you're just being unrealistic...
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| popkorn |
Posted on 15-07-2008 13:59
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Nice move by Team Columbia manager to ruin Lövkvist's tour by forcing him to do such hard work for the team. Chasing down breaks AND being forced to lead-out the sprint when Ciolek and Cav still just took the Quick Step train after that.
I'm absolutely sure Lövkvist would manage a top 20 in GC by now if he just got a rest in all the teams work. Sioutsou doesn't need to work anything at all on the flat even though he can't TT at all. Lövkvist can, and he's reaaaaally great at it. He has the record on the Criterium International TT. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-07-2008 14:06
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Zimao isnt being extremely chauvinistic at all ... not one bit ...
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| helGn |
Posted on 15-07-2008 14:07
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zimao91 what would the point to let Lövkvist rest be?
he wouldnt be able to hold the white jersey for long. and stagewins and keeping kirchen in yellow > keeping Lövkvist in t5 for white and t20 overall IMO and he didnt really do too much work either in the trains, so he shouldnt get dropped that easily when the mountains started pretenting to be there (hills  ) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2008 14:09
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Zimao91 wrote:
Nice move by Team Columbia manager to ruin Lövkvist's tour by forcing him to do such hard work for the team. Chasing down breaks AND being forced to lead-out the sprint when Ciolek and Cav still just took the Quick Step train after that.
That's what young riders with a lot to learn need to do: work so they can learn.
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I'm absolutely sure Lövkvist would manage a top 20 in GC by now if he just got a rest in all the teams work.
So you believe that by not leading the pack for 600 meters as he does on sprint stages, he would have magically improved his climbing to the tune of 22 minutes in a single mountain stage?
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Sioutsou doesn't need to work anything at all on the flat even though he can't TT at all.
You answered yourself
Zimao91 wrote:
Lövkvist can, and he's reaaaaally great at it. He has the record on the Criterium International TT.
he's "so really great" that despite not working for his leaders even once before the time trial, he still tied Nibali. that's not "being great". that's being good.
Someone was asking yesterday on gamecenter what "Chauvinist" means. Look no further than here
No offense Zimao, I know it's easy to convince yourself you're not overrating one of your favorite riders when you really are, especially when everyone else was tipping Lövkvist to go for the white despite the fact that Lövkvist himself said he's here as a worker and to try to win a stage in a break.
But in this case, you've got to take a deep breath, look at his results and realise that he's never done anything outstanding, save those 8kms in the Critérium International over a year ago.
Edited by issoisso on 15-07-2008 14:10
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