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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:26
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To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:33
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Cândido Barbosa wins by using the Waghlon "zig-zag blocking" technique. He get disqualified every time he does that, but not this year.
Why? simple. He rides for a team owned by an organisation that also owns the Volta...
fuck Barbosa. I hate him. I'd like for once that a DB maker would realise he's slow as fuck ever since he decided to become a climber. 74 sprint is too much for him.
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| t-baum |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:47
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issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
He wasn't talking to his parents that whole year anyway, he had a bad relationship with his family ever since he turned pro. How the hell would he know that some dumbfuck named Michael Ball would come into the sport with that big of a budget and hire as many past dopers as possible?
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"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:48
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I concur with you on the Barbosa thing by the way
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:51
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t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
He wasn't talking to his parents that whole year anyway, he had a bad relationship with his family ever since he turned pro. How the hell would he know that some dumbfuck named Michael Ball would come into the sport with that big of a budget and hire as many past dopers as possible?
Great riders can ALWAYS get teams after returning as long as they don't accuse anyone other than themselves and keep the omerta going. So it's not about Michael Ball. Also, Landis' relationship with his parents was fine. He's said so himself that after he left for Europe they finally understood him. It was the doping scandal that changed that.
Especially because when hearing the news of the positive test, Landis' father in law and best friend commited suicide, and the family blamed Floyd for it.
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Posted on 22-08-2008 17:51
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t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
He wasn't talking to his parents that whole year anyway, he had a bad relationship with his family ever since he turned pro. How the hell would he know that some dumbfuck named Michael Ball would come into the sport with that big of a budget and hire as many past dopers as possible?
So what youre saying is that Michael Ball is hiring as many past dopers as possible.
One rider Ball has recently hired is Floyd Llandis.
But Landis wasnt doped?
Nice contradiction 
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Posted on 22-08-2008 18:23
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issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem. Not sure... Just like Lance Armstrong or Tyler Hamilton, he didn't confess anything. There's always a part for doubt that way. What if the tests would be wrong ? What if it was a conspiracy because he's American/Mormon/a Phonak rider/whatever and the French/Europeans are jealous ? Nobody with common sense will believe him, but there are enough people without common sense in the world...
It's more lucrative for him and doesn't harm his image as much to look like somebody who always denied and may have been condamned for things he didn't do than to admit he cheated. |
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| icecreamtester |
Posted on 22-08-2008 18:59
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issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
Well it's miraculous that his parents talked to him even before he was convicted. His family is Mennonite, which means they are a brand of Christians who don't believe in using many of the modern conveniences we use today, and they basically live like people did in America during the late 1700's. And when Mennonite children become teenagers, they are allowed to experience modern life for a period of time, and if they decide to join the modern world, opposed to keeping the old lifestyle, they are allowed to leave, but usually that means that the family doesn't have any communication with them.
Landis was lucky to have a family that accepted his view, and he destroyed that.
I see Mennonite/Amish people every day, one of the local bike shops is run by a Mennonite family, and it takes a LOT to piss them off, they didn't even seem phased when some teenagers burnt the local Mennonite schoolhouse down.
If Landis could push his own family over the edge, he's not coming back. |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 22-08-2008 19:43
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SportingNonsense wrote:
t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
He wasn't talking to his parents that whole year anyway, he had a bad relationship with his family ever since he turned pro. How the hell would he know that some dumbfuck named Michael Ball would come into the sport with that big of a budget and hire as many past dopers as possible?
So what youre saying is that Michael Ball is hiring as many past dopers as possible.
One rider Ball has recently hired is Floyd Llandis.
But Landis wasnt doped?
Nice contradiction
Yea....ummm....didn't really think that one through
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| t-baum |
Posted on 22-08-2008 19:46
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issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
To a guy like Landis, appearance is everything. His deeply religious parents aren't talking to him. If he had miraculously managed to have gotten an "innocent" verdict, his family would embrace him back.
And to Landis, that means everything.
That, plus he'll always win gobs more money riding for Rock Racing, so spending money wasn't much of a problem.
He wasn't talking to his parents that whole year anyway, he had a bad relationship with his family ever since he turned pro. How the hell would he know that some dumbfuck named Michael Ball would come into the sport with that big of a budget and hire as many past dopers as possible?
Great riders can ALWAYS get teams after returning as long as they don't accuse anyone other than themselves and keep the omerta going. So it's not about Michael Ball. Also, Landis' relationship with his parents was fine. He's said so himself that after he left for Europe they finally understood him. It was the doping scandal that changed that.
Especially because when hearing the news of the positive test, Landis' father in law and best friend commited suicide, and the family blamed Floyd for it.
Isso, when it comes to anything about cycling why do you know so goddamn much? All bow down to Isso, your the best at knowing cycling shit, give the man a cookie.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 22-08-2008 19:58
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Yeah, fuck Barbosa... wait, what? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 20:45
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t-baum wrote:
Isso, when it comes to anything about cycling why do you know so goddamn much? All bow down to Isso, your the best at knowing cycling shit, give the man a cookie.
I love both watching cycling and reading about it.....duuh
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Posted on 22-08-2008 20:50
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issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
Isso, when it comes to anything about cycling why do you know so goddamn much? All bow down to Isso, your the best at knowing cycling shit, give the man a cookie.
I love both watching cycling and reading about it.....duuh
And you have a pretty damn memory when it comes to supporting something you're saying.
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Posted on 22-08-2008 20:56
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MarcoPRT wrote:
issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
Isso, when it comes to anything about cycling why do you know so goddamn much? All bow down to Isso, your the best at knowing cycling shit, give the man a cookie.
I love both watching cycling and reading about it.....duuh
And you have a pretty damn memory when it comes to supporting something you're saying.
cyclingnews is your friend. You just need to know some small information about what your looking for first.
Not saying that isso is constantly on cyclingnews, but yeah you can get about 3 years worth of results from there still!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 20:57
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Race results are from a few select sites (although I do remember a few), definitely. Everything else is memory.
I can assure you I only have that kind of memory for useless stuff, never for what matters.
doddy13 wrote:
yeah you can get about 3 years worth of results from there still!
you can get way more, if you know exactly where to go. In some dark deep corners I've gotten such stuff as pics from Vuelta a Asturias 1996, Giro 1996, etc.
Edited by issoisso on 22-08-2008 20:58
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Posted on 22-08-2008 20:58
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doddy13 wrote:
MarcoPRT wrote:
issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
Isso, when it comes to anything about cycling why do you know so goddamn much? All bow down to Isso, your the best at knowing cycling shit, give the man a cookie.
I love both watching cycling and reading about it.....duuh
And you have a pretty damn memory when it comes to supporting something you're saying.
cyclingnews is your friend. You just need to know some small information about what your looking for first.
Not saying that isso is constantly on cyclingnews, but yeah you can get about 3 years worth of results from there still!
I'm not talking about results, I'm referring to the small things that the common cycling fan forgets after some months.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 21:04
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Also, about the bikes themselves, mechanically, I know jack squat. I know from experience where I'm supposed to push with my feet
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Posted on 22-08-2008 21:26
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haha, it's always good to know stuff. On the tour i'm clued up. Got a fair few books on the race, on other races, nothing. Will possibly buy the vuelta book the commentator keeps saying is a good read.
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| ceky |
Posted on 22-08-2008 22:28
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can you tell me the title of that book?
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Posted on 22-08-2008 22:32
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which one, i know many cycling books.
The Vuelta one is here
https://www.amazon...amp;sr=8-1
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