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UCPCL Continental Tour - Various Starlists needed
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| mvhoogdalem |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:30
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But how is it fair to either not include Pervyj to race the original stage, or give them points for a race they didn't participate in while other teams who raced didn't get points for not finishing top 20?
I think re-run is the only solution here, because in any solution someone will miss out. We just have to hope it doesn't happen again. |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:40
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mvhoogdalem wrote:
But how is it fair to either not include Pervyj to race the original stage, or give them points for a race they didn't participate in while other teams who raced didn't get points for not finishing top 20?
I think re-run is the only solution here, because in any solution someone will miss out. We just have to hope it doesn't happen again.
Pfffff..... this is the evidence you didnt read my comments or not all of them... I offered a very realiable solution that answers all your questions.... |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:42
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Im too tired and dissapointed to write any about this case ....
Sorry Manx, but i think you made the first mistake and then worsened the things. But i dont care anymore.
End of line. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:47
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jaxika wrote:
Im too tired and dissapointed to write any about this case ....
Sorry Manx, but i think you made the first mistake and then worsened the things. But i dont care anymore.
End of line.
Hidden Meaning: I have no reason as to why a re-run is unfair. I am upset that my win was taken away.
If that is not true i look forward to reading your arguments as to why a re-run was unfair 
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:51
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Guys, I think we've gotten to a point where everyone is just repeating themselves. Maybe time to move on?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:56
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TheManxMissile wrote:
jaxika wrote:
Im too tired and dissapointed to write any about this case ....
Sorry Manx, but i think you made the first mistake and then worsened the things. But i dont care anymore.
End of line.
Hidden Meaning: I have no reason as to why a re-run is unfair. I am upset that my win was taken away.
If that is not true i look forward to reading your arguments as to why a re-run was unfair
MAnx ... dont be a jerk please ... i said a lot of times its not about the points.... if you dont believe me your problem... Can you take all my points as donations, i dont care 
If you doesnt want me in this game (talking about hidden meanings it seems to be like that) just say it... |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:57
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Ollfardh wrote:
Guys, I think we've gotten to a point where everyone is just repeating themselves. Maybe time to move on?
I said end of line one time, then this <Hidden Meanings > ...
Hes a psycholog or what ?
Hidden Meanings... pffff... |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-05-2013 19:59
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Jaix
I want you to stay in the game. I do as much as i can to keep people in the game, but there are 27 other people in the game i have to look after as well. I have read and responded to every question/point you have put forward. I don't care about your points or the fact you won the original. All i want is for you to put forward your reasons for why the re-run was unfair.
You keep saying that it is unfair, but as far as i can see, have not given any reasons. If you give me some reasons then i may change my mind.
Until that point nothing you say can make a difference.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:09
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Jaix
I want you to stay in the game. I do as much as i can to keep people in the game, but there are 27 other people in the game i have to look after as well. I have read and responded to every question/point you have put forward. I don't care about your points or the fact you won the original. All i want is for you to put forward your reasons for why the re-run was unfair.
You keep saying that it is unfair, but as far as i can see, have not given any reasons. If you give me some reasons then i may change my mind.
Until that point nothing you say can make a difference.
Ok, final try.
Its simple . YOU made a mistake. But with redo, you punish every TEAMS that scored. Because the AI randomness. (Just try to redo again the race a few times and will be all new results not like 1st try and not like 2nd try) I hope now you understand my point.
Please be reliable when responding and dont search <hidden meanings>... |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:12
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TMM is just evil, that's how he is, learn to live with it.
Everyone has to get used to that, but TMM won't change, he stays evil
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:18
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@Jaix
Yes i had made a mistake, so i have to correct the mistake in an impartial way. The mistake was that Pervyj did not ride, so i corrected that by doing a re-run of the race. There was every chance that Allianz would still win, and that Pervyj would still not score. In no way was the re-run biased towards any team. It was not run because any team did or did not get certain results.
Just for clarity, is you argument against doing a re-run the fact that it generates a new random result? and if so is that your only argument?
@Jesl
This isn't being evil. This is the opposite! If i was evil i would have said take the original result
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:20
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TheManxMissile wrote:
@Jesl
This isn't being evil. This is the opposite! If i was evil i would have said take the original result
I know, wasn't judging your decision at all, but he just has to know.
The truth is: You are evil, most of the time
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:28
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Manx...i know the redo isnt was biased towards any team.
But .... what if the first time the 16 teams where started correct and still Matthews win. But, because not was 16 team, only 12, you redo the race and because the AI randomness, the results changed. Because that i proposed the double/halve methode (still proposing that, but can you can cut my results nad moving 2nd to 1st and so on 10th to 11st, that way noone can say i working because of me).
I dont saying the redo isnt acceptable, just to count the first race too. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:36
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jaxika wrote:
Manx...i know the redo isnt was biased towards any team.
But .... what if the first time the 16 teams where started correct and still Matthews win. But, because not was 16 team, only 12, you redo the race and because the AI randomness, the results changed. Because that i proposed the double/halve methode (still proposing that, but can you can cut my results nad moving 2nd to 1st and so on 10th to 11st, that way noone can say i working because of me).
I dont saying the redo isnt acceptable, just to count the first race too.
Now it sounds like you want the change because you won the first race, and still want that to count in some way....
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:37
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TheManxMissile wrote:
jaxika wrote:
Manx...i know the redo isnt was biased towards any team.
But .... what if the first time the 16 teams where started correct and still Matthews win. But, because not was 16 team, only 12, you redo the race and because the AI randomness, the results changed. Because that i proposed the double/halve methode (still proposing that, but can you can cut my results nad moving 2nd to 1st and so on 10th to 11st, that way noone can say i working because of me).
I dont saying the redo isnt acceptable, just to count the first race too.
Now it sounds like you want the change because you won the first race, and still want that to count in some way....
Manx you really cant read??????? |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-05-2013 20:53
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and apparently neither can you!
I have layed out clear reasoning why the re-run was chosen, you just seem to be stuck on this other idea...
The re-run is staying... If it is that much of a problem then quit. I have made my decision and backed it up. I have answered your questions.
I am tired of having seemingly constant arguments with people about various parts of the game... It makes it really hard to even bother. I have never tried anything as complicated as this. This season is about testing everything to see what works and what doesn't. I can guarantee there will be lots more additions, removals and changes between now and the end of the season. If people don't like that i recommend quitting now and saving yourselves the time. I've already had someone quite, someone quit and comeback, i can handle it.
And that is my final word on the subject. If anyone wants to continue any part of this discussion they can contact me via PM.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 08-05-2013 21:24
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Partly i understand you, partly not. You running this game, so your decision are standing. But some times can you take advices from anothers. And you definitely arent a mind reader, so dont write things that i never said. Plus i said a lot of times that a i never been interested in points, but you stick to keep writing and writing that i made this arguing because that ....
Thats all. Good night |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 08-05-2013 21:27
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have a good night yourself
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| Bikex |
Posted on 08-05-2013 23:12
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Maybe it would be the fairest to keep the results from round 1 and give Pervyj another wildcard from a flat wt classic? |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 09-05-2013 09:38
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Bikex wrote:
Maybe it would be the fairest to keep the results from round 1 and give Pervyj another wildcard from a flat wt classic?
That'll mean less points for Perv, as they're halved and face tougher opposition. Also doesn't change the fact that the other team had it easier to win points against one team less.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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