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| Iguwell |
Posted on 24-03-2013 15:58
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
Please, someone reveal SKY's doping program before they ruin the sport entirely.
They already did for me, at least stage racing part. US Postal was much worse results wise...
Postal only cared about TDF which is the main difference for the results.
Sky are just pushing the scientific logic of cycling to its edge, for the racing style (I'm not even addressing the chemical aspect here). I guess that's the direction cycling is going, even in post-Sky years, the attacks and all will probably be less chaotic and all riders will try to optimise their output.
That is what i was talking about a month ago, we are going to robotic cycling times, it does not even matter if they are doping or not, it is coming from sport to science completly.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-03-2013 15:58
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Oh, it could get worse, imagine they'd have real times blood, liver or muscles analysers, letting them know how much glycogen (energy) they have left, how much lactate they have in their blood and the moment, and they could optimize their output even more.
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 15:58
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
wow you read my mind this is what i was thinking seeing sky performance today
Edited by deek12345 on 24-03-2013 16:01
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:02
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Sky making everybody look like 4th rate amateurs again.
The first 2 years they were believable, since last year they become kinda ridicolous. Don't know what they are on but it's good stuff |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:02
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Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali (2.1) Stage 5: Monticelli Terme › Fiorano Modenese
| 1 | CARUSO Damiano | Cannondale Pro Cycling Team | | 20 | 3:00:13 | | 2 | MAZZI Alessandro | Utensilnord - ora24.eu | | 12 | 0:13 | | 3 | SHPILEVSKY Boris | Lokosphinx | | 7 | 1:28 | | 4 | SHILOV Sergey | Lokosphinx | | 5 | 1:33 | | 5 | PONZI Simone | Astana Pro Team | | 4 | 1:37 | | 6 | ROSA Diego | Androni - Venezuela | | 3 | 1:44 | | 7 | QUINTERO NORENA Carlos Julian | Team Colombia | | 2 | 2:29 | | 8 | CHERNETSKIY Sergey | Katusha Team | | 1 | 2:32 | | 9 | COLEDAN Marco | Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox | | | 2:40 | | 10 | PAVLIN Simon | Adria Mobil | | | 3:11 |
Break takes the last stage.
Ulissi wins the overall, nicely done by him. Cunego and Rubiano 2nd and 3rd.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:04
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How is it that Shpilevsky only seems to perform in CT teams?  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:05
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ruben wrote:
Sky making everybody look like 4th rate amateurs again.
The first 2 years they were believable, since last year they become kinda ridicolous. Don't know what they are on but it's good stuff
I doubt they're on anything very particular. Time will tell.
If you see what US Postal did, or other teams, it appears they were using the same stuff as others, just in a more optimal way.
I wouldn't be too surprised that Sky are applying the same logic and products that are currently on the market (HGH, EPO, blood transufsions, Aicar, etc.). |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:06
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Wilier wrote:
How is it that Shpilevsky only seems to perform in CT teams?
Do I answer or is it too bloody obvious?
Pun intended.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:08
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kumazan wrote:
Wilier wrote:
How is it that Shpilevsky only seems to perform in CT teams?
Do I answer or is it too bloody obvious?
Pun intended.
I thinks the answer is bloody obvious indeed.  |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:09
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I thought we had a thread for Sky and doping? Or do we need 500 of them?
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 24-03-2013 16:30
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Aquarius wrote:
ruben wrote:
Sky making everybody look like 4th rate amateurs again.
The first 2 years they were believable, since last year they become kinda ridicolous. Don't know what they are on but it's good stuff
I doubt they're on anything very particular. Time will tell.
If you see what US Postal did, or other teams, it appears they were using the same stuff as others, just in a more optimal way.
I wouldn't be too surprised that Sky are applying the same logic and products that are currently on the market (HGH, EPO, blood transufsions, Aicar, etc.).
Either that or Kerrison, Brailsford, etc have created some wonder drug without anyone else knowing 
EDIT: Didn't watch the race though, anyone got any idea how fast they climbed the final climb?
Edited by CLURPR on 24-03-2013 16:48
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:13
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cactus-jack wrote:
I thought we had a thread for Sky and doping? Or do we need 500 of them?
It seems a universal theme in every thread |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:24
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I've seen cleaner Frankie Boyle jokes. What a mockery of the sport. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:34
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CLURPR wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
ruben wrote:
Sky making everybody look like 4th rate amateurs again.
The first 2 years they were believable, since last year they become kinda ridicolous. Don't know what they are on but it's good stuff
I doubt they're on anything very particular. Time will tell.
If you see what US Postal did, or other teams, it appears they were using the same stuff as others, just in a more optimal way.
I wouldn't be too surprised that Sky are applying the same logic and products that are currently on the market (HGH, EPO, blood transufsions, Aicar, etc.).
Either that or Kerrison, Brailsford, etc have created some wonder drug without anyone else knowing
EDIT: Didn't watch the race though, anyone got any idea how fast they climbed the final climb?
How fast they went? Well CERN just thought they found the Higgs boson particle on the Porto Vecchio climb when Froome and Porte accelerated. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:40
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Watching that stage confirms my belief that the field at Tirreno was far stronger that the Paris Nice. The Sky trio of Kirylenka, Froome and Porte destroyed a fairly mediocre field.
Nibali, Rodriguez, Contador, Froome, Valverde are still a different class of climbers to guys like Talansky, Van Garderen and even Porte. Right now I'm looking at Quintana and placing him somewhere in between.
Quite where Wiggins this year fits in with that looks like we will have to wait and see at the Giro.
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-03-2013 17:46
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Yet Mollema, who apart from his off-day at Prato di Tivo, did pretty well in the Tirreno (finishing ahead of Contador and Froome on other stages), was nowhere near Porte/Froome level today... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-03-2013 18:58
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It was a long time since we've seen a certain Radioshack rider from Luxembourg in the elite group of favorites on a mountain finish......way to go Jungels
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 19:12
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Michael Rogers 15th overall where would he have been if he was racing for sky? |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 24-03-2013 19:13
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jt1109 wrote:
Michael Rogers 15th overall where would he have been if he was racing for sky?
3rd. |
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| pvalente |
Posted on 24-03-2013 21:22
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Is incredible, see results of Mollema, he is the new Marcato. But I like him, is a great puncheur and is very combative.
Fábio Silvestre awesome 4 place on Normandie.
I ask sorry for my english
Nicolas Roche fanboy
Dombrowski future winner of Tour de France!
Rui Costa!
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