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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:27
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Andalucia are in La Vuelta? 
No, but they were in previous years.
I think you just proved his point 
Picture from today's stage:
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:29
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issoisso wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Andalucia are in La Vuelta?
No, but they were in previous years.
I think you just proved his point
Picture from today's stage:
*Facepalm to self*
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:31
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Andalucia are in La Vuelta?
No, but they were in previous years.
I think you just proved his point
Picture from today's stage:
*Facepalm to self*
After reading baseball's posts I had to check the startlist to make sure they actually were in the race. So, I guess I know how you made that mistake
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Posted on 02-09-2012 19:34
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Jacdk wrote:
hehe, how freaking great is it to see Froome loose complety
I am soooo looking forward to TdF next year to see Wiggins and Froome against real cyclists.
Don't get your hopes too high. Frromechkin will be in another form than he is now. And in France, long plain stages smother pure climbers, making them much less efficient when mountains come. Plus an average TDF mountain generally favours TT riders more than an average Vuelta mountain. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:36
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It's normal for Froome to be having troubles. To be honest, right now I'm surprised that he still somehow hangs on to a decent place in the gc. Don't worry, he'll be back for next year's TdF 
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| dienblad |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:38
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This Vuelta is for sure exciting to watch.
- Love the way Contador keeps on attacking. He has stolen the heart of many cycling fans already and will be forgiven for the Clenbuterol-saga (well, not by all of course, especially not with this forum )
- Froome is dead, and still tries to conter. ALthough he is suspicious to many, he for sure has some guts.
- Degenkolb is simply fantastic.
- RodrÃguez: okay, he does a great job, but when I looking at him climbing and countering all the attacks, without difficulty, I have some feeling that tells him that it is suspicious. I'm sorry to the Purito-fans, but I can't help it. WIth already the Giro done, he is too dominant to me. When everybody is cooked in the last few hundred metres, he easily creates a gap in the sprint.
So shoot me for the last thing, and there are no proofs, but it is just a feeling....
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:40
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dienblad wrote:
- RodrÃguez: okay, he does a great job, but when I looking at him climbing and countering all the attacks, without difficulty, I have some feeling that tells him that it is suspicious. I'm sorry to the Purito-fans, but I can't help it. WIth already the Giro done, he is too dominant to me. When everybody is cooked in the last few hundred metres, he easily creates a gap in the sprint.
So shoot me for the last thing, and there are no proofs, but it is just a feeling....
PUT 'EM UP
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 02-09-2012 19:54
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dienblad wrote:
- RodrÃguez: okay, he does a great job, but when I looking at him climbing and countering all the attacks, without difficulty, I have some feeling that tells him that it is suspicious. I'm sorry to the Purito-fans, but I can't help it. WIth already the Giro done, he is too dominant to me. When everybody is cooked in the last few hundred metres, he easily creates a gap in the sprint.
So shoot me for the last thing, and there are no proofs, but it is just a feeling....
You asked for it
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Wilier |
Posted on 02-09-2012 21:13
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One does not simply accuse a non-sky rider of doping. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 02-09-2012 21:35
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Say hello to my little list (aka list of teams Purito has ridden for)
ONCE-Eroski
Saunier Duval-Prodir
Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
Team Katusha
With those teams "under his belt" who cares he doesn't ride for Sky
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 02-09-2012 21:38
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Marcellus51 wrote:
I hope they will bury WheelsuckingNeverAttack Rodriguez !
just..you..never mind
isnt he wearing tour leader jersey and winning stages one after another.
Contador starting to understand that he cant beat Purito this time. But still he is amazing. He never gives up..like tour with bad knee. He still atacked..and when needed right after start.
This spaniards tempo changes are amazing..hard core stuff. How tempo climbers like Sastre , Basso and Wiggins has managed with that fireworks.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-09-2012 22:04
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In regards to the doping issue mentioned above, Purito to me is the same as any other guy with his history: Sure, he's probably doping.
But as long as there is no solid evidence I won't say much, and I certainly won't be angry at all, as the only thing that makes me angry about doping is the rabid blind nationalistic fanboys with zero knowledge of the subject complaining that accusers are motivated by jealousy. Since there are none of those, I'm fine with what's happening.
Won't shock me if he tests positive, really but what matters to me right now in the absence of solid evidence is that we enjoy the race 
Edited by issoisso on 02-09-2012 22:08
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| kumazan |
Posted on 02-09-2012 22:39
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alexkr00 wrote:
Say hello to my little list (aka list of teams Purito has ridden for)
ONCE-Eroski
Saunier Duval-Prodir
Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
Team Katusha
With those teams "under his belt" who cares he doesn't ride for Sky
Not to mention who's his coach:
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Posted on 02-09-2012 22:40
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issoisso wrote:
In regards to the doping issue mentioned above, Purito to me is the same as any other guy with his history: Sure, he probably was doping.
I'm starting to be hopeful that I have fixed the above for you. Not confident, but slightly hopeful.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-09-2012 23:14
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kumazan wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Say hello to my little list (aka list of teams Purito has ridden for)
ONCE-Eroski
Saunier Duval-Prodir
Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
Team Katusha
With those teams "under his belt" who cares he doesn't ride for Sky
Not to mention who's his coach:
Is that confirmed, or is piEPOli just a rumour?
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| aymen |
Posted on 02-09-2012 23:15
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Wadahell, first isssoiso you accuse first froome without correct evidence and now Rodriquez the Anti-Contador last hope, you must realise that wa haven't high level in this Vuelta, Froome tired from his Tour and Contador his results is due to dopping, Valverde also, and just show Moreno do you think Moreno is a top 5 GT contender, seriously without speaking of Roche,Ten Dams and Talansky
And it's unbelievable but true, this the best GT for Anton until now.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-09-2012 23:46
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aymen wrote:
Wadahell, first isssoiso you accuse first froome without correct evidence
If him going from crap rider who never did anything at all and was not offered a new contract by Sky to top GC racer literally overnight at the time when the team hired a notorious doping doctor is "not correct evidence", then what is?
aymen wrote:
and now Rodriquez
Who's "Rodriquez"? Is he related to Rodriguez?
aymen wrote:
the Anti-Contador last hope
So, this is about your faith? That explains the lack of logic then.
aymen wrote:
, you must realise that wa haven't high level in this Vuelta, Froome tired from his Tour and Contador his results is due to dopping, Valverde also, and just show Moreno do you think Moreno is a top 5 GT contender, seriously without speaking of Roche,Ten Dams and Talansky
And it's unbelievable but true, this the best GT for Anton until now.
The ignorance is astounding. I don't even know which part to reply to first.
Apparently it's not a high level simply because you say so.
And yes, Moreno is one of the best riders in the world right now. He's spent the entire season riding the EXACT same races as RodrÃguez except one, and was only allowed to go for his chances in AndalucÃa, Dauphiné and Burgos. Three races, and in everything else he was working for someone else.
Yet he's still 23rd in the 2012 CQRanking. He's amazingly good.
EDIT: And by the way, that's because he's ridden few races to be fresh for the Vuelta, while many of the guys ahead of him in the ranking were out there scoring points. The second the Vuelta ends he'll be top 10 in the ranking.
Edited by issoisso on 02-09-2012 23:53
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| aymen |
Posted on 02-09-2012 23:55
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issoisso wrote:
aymen wrote:
Wadahell, first isssoiso you accuse first froome without correct evidence
If him going from crap rider who never did anything at all and was not offered a new contract by Sky to top GC racer literally overnight at the time when the team hired a notorious doping doctor is "not correct evidence", then what is?
aymen wrote:
and now Rodriquez
Who's "Rodriquez"? Is he related to Rodriguez?
aymen wrote:
the Anti-Contador last hope
So, this is about your faith? That explains the lack of logic then.
aymen wrote:
, you must realise that wa haven't high level in this Vuelta, Froome tired from his Tour and Contador his results is due to dopping, Valverde also, and just show Moreno do you think Moreno is a top 5 GT contender, seriously without speaking of Roche,Ten Dams and Talansky
And it's unbelievable but true, this the best GT for Anton until now.
The ignorance is astounding. I don't even know which part to reply to first.
Apparently it's not a high level simply because you say so.
And yes, Moreno is one of the best riders in the world right now. He's spent the entire season riding the EXACT same races as RodrÃguez except one, and was only allowed to go for his chances in AndalucÃa, Dauphiné and Burgos. Three races, and in everything else he was working for someone else.
Yet he's still 23rd in the 2012 CQRanking. He's amazingly good.
srry it's Rodriguez it's obvious tough,
anyway don't see where i get wrong in my ideas, when i speak about correct evidence i mean positif Test anyway now, by our tought both, the winner of the Vuelta will be Moreno or Valverde
If you say Rodriguez,Froome are dopped and I guess Contador will do it this night to beat Rodriguez tomorrow then who will win??
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:00
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aymen wrote:
anyway don't see where i get wrong in my ideas, when i speak about correct evidence i mean positif Test
Ok, then let's apply your rules. Contador tested positive once, at the 2010 Tour de France. By your rules, either he tested positive in every race he ever got a result in, or you're wrong when you say he only got results by doping.
So are you wrong or do your own rules not apply to you?
aymen wrote:
anyway now, by our tought both, the winner of the Vuelta will be Moreno or Valverde
What? What does that mean? And how did you go from Moreno not being a GC contender to he's going to win the Vuelta?
aymen wrote:
If you say Rodriguez,Froome are dopped and I guess Contador will do it this night to beat Rodriguez tomorrow then who will win??
That doesn't make sense. What are you saying?
PS: To anyone following the topic, I just did the math. If Danny Brown finishes the season after the Vuelta with the exact same solid but unspectacular results he got last season after the Vuelta, he'll finish the season ranked 6th.....ahead of Valverde.....while working for someone else almost all season......can we give this guy a medal?
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| aymen |
Posted on 03-09-2012 00:12
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issoisso wrote:
To anyone following the topic, I just did the math. If Danny Brown finishes the season after the Vuelta with the exact same solid but unspectacular results he got last season after the Vuelta, he'll finish the season ranked 6th.....ahead of Valverde.....while working for someone else almost all season......can we give this guy a medal?
doen't understand this part
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What? What does that mean? And how did you go from Moreno not being a GC contender to he's going to win the Vuelta?
no that's because he's fifth then if we say that froome is dopped, and Rodriguez as well, Contador like i said have do it this night and Valverde doen't suspect him but maybe he also will take product then the first four are out, there is just two more Mountain Stages then it's Moreno
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Ok, then let's apply your rules. Contador tested positive once, at the 2010 Tour de France. By your rules, either he tested positive in every race he ever got a result in, or you're wrong when you say he only got results by doping.
So are you wrong or do your own rules not apply to you?
NO, you misunderstand me, I mean let's see Schleck Frank now he is Positive but I'm sure he didn't take products in his own, that is a correct evidence of cheating but we are not sure 100% that he is dopping. Or if you take armstrong , Leipheimer,Hincapie and Hamilton said he was dopping and people saying are token seriously that's why they are correct evidence
Back to Contador, The Positif Test in 2010 was a proof that he's dopping but it's also a clue that he may actually being dopped before
by some odd coincidence, Armstrong was not caught and he was dopped==>some products hard to be tested
and the year when Contador left Armstrong he was caught , weird no??
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