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Posted on 28-11-2024 18:06
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| icecreamtester |
Posted on 21-08-2008 19:09
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issoisso wrote:
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OK MAYBE Hamilton
Hamilton too. He did everything to be seen as an ambassador against doping and then tested positive and still came up with 3 or 4 different excuses for it, which were some of the most ridiculous excuses ever.
I meant that signing Hamilton was wrong but Landis won the most prestigious race on earth with drugs, and wrote a book about how he's innocent.
And of course since I live in Eastern Pennsylvania, it was on the local news, and the reporters have no clue what they're talking about, and my non-cycling friends were appalled at me because that fact that a I participated in such a sport. |
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Posted on 21-08-2008 19:10
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icecreamtester wrote:
issoisso wrote:
icecreamtester wrote:
OK MAYBE Hamilton
Hamilton too. He did everything to be seen as an ambassador against doping and then tested positive and still came up with 3 or 4 different excuses for it, which were some of the most ridiculous excuses ever.
I meant that signing Hamilton was wrong but Landis won the most prestigious race on earth with drugs, and wrote a book about how he's innocent.
And of course since I live in Eastern Pennsylvania, it was on the local news, and the reporters have no clue what they're talking about, and my non-cycling friends were appalled at me because that fact that a I participated in such a sport.
which is one of the reasons I tend to absorb as much information as possible on doping. When they start with the bullshit, there's nothing quite like scientific facts to destroy their idea that their favorite sports are clean and shut them up.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| icecreamtester |
Posted on 21-08-2008 19:17
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Usually the no-randoms speech works on my dumb friends. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-08-2008 19:19
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icecreamtester wrote:
Usually the no-randoms speech works on my dumb friends.
what speech is that?
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| icecreamtester |
Posted on 21-08-2008 19:55
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The one telling them that their favorite sport (around here mostly American Football or Baseball) has as much drug use as any other sport, but the reason more cyclists get caught is because of the random dug testing, whereas Baseball and American Football have scheduled tests, allowing athletes to use steroids as long as its out of their system by the time the test comes around. |
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Posted on 21-08-2008 20:06
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issoisso wrote:
Now that a british rider finally wins something decent the brits are silent. It makes no sense. Steven Cummings wins the Coppa Bernocchi, the last part of the Trittico Lombardo, after the controlling teams let the break go. Leonardo Bertagnolli wins the Trittico, but that's little consolation after not willing the Coppa Agostoni and especially not winning the Tre Valli Varesine.
 
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Posted on 21-08-2008 20:12
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Tour of Ireland starts next week,teams arn't as good as last year 
The startlist for the Tour of Britain is excellent though.
Can't wait for that!
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Posted on 21-08-2008 21:03
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icecreamtester wrote:
The one telling them that their favorite sport (around here mostly American Football or Baseball) has as much drug use as any other sport, but the reason more cyclists get caught is because of the random dug testing, whereas Baseball and American Football have scheduled tests, allowing athletes to use steroids as long as its out of their system by the time the test comes around.
Plus, cycling uses tests for more kinds of dope (now testing for CERA for example)
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| t-baum |
Posted on 21-08-2008 21:45
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icecreamtester wrote:
issoisso wrote:
icecreamtester wrote:
OK MAYBE Hamilton
Hamilton too. He did everything to be seen as an ambassador against doping and then tested positive and still came up with 3 or 4 different excuses for it, which were some of the most ridiculous excuses ever.
I meant that signing Hamilton was wrong but Landis won the most prestigious race on earth with drugs, and wrote a book about how he's innocent.
And of course since I live in Eastern Pennsylvania, it was on the local news, and the reporters have no clue what they're talking about, and my non-cycling friends were appalled at me because that fact that a I participated in such a sport.
Landis didn't cheat.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| icecreamtester |
Posted on 21-08-2008 22:15
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t-baum wrote:
Landis didn't cheat.
Convincing argument, love how really you put the facts together. |
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Posted on 21-08-2008 22:20
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Im going to put a lot of facts together too: Rasmussen didn't cheat.
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 15:13
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OH MY GOD the Liberty Seguros DS is a cheater!! he's doing a team attack!!!
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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Posted on 22-08-2008 15:18
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icecreamtester wrote:
The one telling them that their favorite sport (around here mostly American Football or Baseball) has as much drug use as any other sport, but the reason more cyclists get caught is because of the random dug testing, whereas Baseball and American Football have scheduled tests, allowing athletes to use steroids as long as its out of their system by the time the test comes around.
Not to mention how little the Baseball and Football players get tested, and the penalties. For instance, the Baltimore Orioles 2B Brian Roberts admitted to using steroids, his punishment, a 15 game suspension (out of a 162 game season) and that later gets commuted, so he gets no punishment. |
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Posted on 22-08-2008 15:24
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in the 90s nobody ever got caught or suspended. before the 90s, a positive test meant that you'd be disqualifed from the stage and (if it were a stage race) would have 10 minutes added to your overall time......
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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Posted on 22-08-2008 15:41
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Américo Silva is insane. He's attacked with 6 different riders one at a time. They're all on the front now. Only the leader and a water boy are there.
If the leader gets across in a few kms without bringing along the yellow jersey, it'll be a genious move.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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Posted on 22-08-2008 15:42
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Now it's all back together and they're all attacking like crazy. And this was supposed to be the transition stage where they'd take it easy before the 2 tough stages of the weekend...
insane.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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Posted on 22-08-2008 16:42
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A little Edvald update from The Eneco Tour, He was 6th in the first sprint stage and today he rode a great lead out for the winner of today's stage Andre Greipel. Edvald also took 3 bonusseconds early in the stage and is now 2nd in GC with the same time as Gutierrez. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2008 16:43
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Greipel!
If Gutierrez is in form as he seems, he's a huge candidate for this race.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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Posted on 22-08-2008 17:00
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Watching it now... |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 22-08-2008 17:23
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icecreamtester wrote:
t-baum wrote:
Landis didn't cheat.
Convincing argument, love how really you put the facts together.
There are other facts that I don't feel like getting right now, but, why would someone put themselves in such a bad financial state, to try to prove their innocence? He's broke right now, and I really don't see why he would do something like that if we guilty...
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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