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Road World Championships 2012
issoisso
Aquarius wrote:
Too many cooks spoil the soup. Five leaders and two wild cards at the Spanish is never going to work, unless one of them is really superior to everyone (team mates and opponents - which is not case, whatsoever, when you have that many leaders).


This

It's been the case so many times through the sport's history, but so many moron coaches still insist on going with a million leaders.

The only logical thing to do here was, assing a guy to take care of Freire during the finish. Moreno for example. Then choose your leader (say, Valverde) and only call up people who will sign a written document agreeing to work for Valverde.
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fenian_1234
The Spanish normally don't do too bad working as a team - main problem for them was they had so many good riders drinking in a last chance saloon.
 
dienblad
An entertaining worlds this was, with a great final day. The race was entertaining, with 2 pretty strong groups in the lead, before Gesink & Contador and friens decided to give it a go.
As a result, the Aussies, Germans and Belgians had to work hard, and, also thanks to a crash at the Cauberg, a smaller group in the last lap.
Gilbert was the strongest today, not only at the Cauberg, but also at the following 2 kilometres. Although I hoped for a Dutch medal (but I can be happy with the 5th for Boom, hope Qatar 2016 will be cyclocross in the desert for more than 50% of the lap Smile), I think the best rider won today. Also credits to EBH and Valverde for 2nd and 3rd, thinking this was the maximum for them today.
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alex valceanu
I mean look at the Belgians . They had Boonen and Gilbert - 2 leaders + Van Avermaet who was a strong rider too and they refused to take Vanendert as well .And they won . Well Spain took Conta , Valverde , Purito , Freire , Sanchez, all of them and they only got a bronze medal . You just cat win with 9 leaders in a team.
 
Guido Mukk
Gilbert won..not surprised. He was in amazing shape already weeks ago.
I have to find race replay now.
 
Wilier
Some weird tweets by Stybar. Anybody knows what he meant? :lol:

zdenekstybar they just all jump on my bike so let say my bike was today about 60times rapedSad
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zdenekstybar I think the guys of the peloton were long time from their wife's and fall in love with my bike.
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kumazan
I'd translate that as: "People kept crashing into me". It's a weird way to say so, though. Pfft
 
Guido Mukk
Nice belgium team play..Boonen, Leukemans..and after that Gilbert power show.
Valverde..like I sayed at Vuelta. One of the best oportunist on the peloton..manages always take max. result out of it. Man who knows he's condition and has perefct intuition about finish line. Doper or not..this is talent.
 
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felix_29
Freire complains about Valverde not waiting for him:

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"I could have won."

I guess he´s just frustrated that his career has come to an end.


 
pcm2009fan
Not his biggest fan, but I think Gilbert deserves this more than anyone. I'm unsurprised to see EBH behind him as well.

Allan Davis put out a good showing as I've come to expect. Purito was the obvious dissapointment. Gerrans a little too.

Race seemed exciting, but maybe that's because I was watching the GP until the last 2 laps.
 
SportingNonsense
Just watched the final two laps now, great to watch.

Very pleased with how the Brits rode it, and fair play to Gilbert, a worthy World Champion
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sutty68
Just watched the final few laps also and i have to agree i had a nice smile seeing Gilbert win :lol:
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Too many cooks spoil the soup. Five leaders and two wild cards at the Spanish is never going to work, unless one of them is really superior to everyone (team mates and opponents - which is not case, whatsoever, when you have that many leaders).


This

It's been the case so many times through the sport's history, but so many moron coaches still insist on going with a million leaders.

The only logical thing to do here was, assing a guy to take care of Freire during the finish. Moreno for example. Then choose your leader (say, Valverde) and only call up people who will sign a written document agreeing to work for Valverde.


Or just say fuck egos and choose a good team. If they were smart they probably would have brought Freire and one of J-Rod, Samu, and Valverde, and then put together a strong support team that would ride solely for those two without a thought for themselves. Flecha, Castroviejo, LL Sanchez, Zubeldia, Barredo, De la Fuente, Nieve, etc. There would be a lot of options.
 
Adomluka
Deadpool wrote:

Or just say fuck egos and choose a good team. If they were smart they probably would have brought Freire and one of J-Rod, Samu, and Valverde, and then put together a strong support team that would ride solely for those two without a thought for themselves. Flecha, Castroviejo, LL Sanchez, Zubeldia, Barredo, De la Fuente, Nieve, etc. There would be a lot of options.


Exactly, the only Spaniard to ride for the team today was Lastras, and he really wasn't of much use except when he was with the Contador group up the road. Spain was extremely dysfunctional this race.
 
Eden95
So, last night with about 20km remaining, the TV I was watching malfunctioned and wouldn't turn back on. I was wondering if there are any videos of the last 10-20km or so?
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Pellizotti2
Adomluka wrote:

Exactly, the only Spaniard to ride for the team today was Lastras, and he really wasn't of much use except when he was with the Contador group up the road. Spain was extremely dysfunctional this race.

What about Flecha? He was far more useful than Lastras if you ask me, pacing the Contador group together with Coppel for several laps.

Deadpool wrote:
Or just say fuck egos and choose a good team. If they were smart they probably would have brought Freire and one of J-Rod, Samu, and Valverde, and then put together a strong support team that would ride solely for those two without a thought for themselves.

I agree on your points, but I believe Contador played his role well. His attacks made the race hard, just like Spain wanted, and then he took several huge turns at the front of the race on the final lap.

Freire, Valverde, Contador, Flecha plus five more domestiques would've been the perfect team. I'd even leave out Freire, since he was just holding Valverde back, when Piti was clearly stronger.
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sutty68
Eden95 wrote:
So, last night with about 20km remaining, the TV I was watching malfunctioned and wouldn't turn back on. I was wondering if there are any videos of the last 10-20km or so?


Its not much but its the best i could find Wink
 
619170
Damn Kolobnev. He was second after Cauberg but EBH and Valverde destroy him at last 700 meters.
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kumazan
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Freire, Valverde, Contador, Flecha plus five more domestiques would've been the perfect team. I'd even leave out Freire, since he was just holding Valverde back, when Piti was clearly stronger.


I don't think Freire holded anyone back. Hard to do so when you're in the 7-10th place in the peloton and your next team mate is the 20th or so.
 
Eden95
sutty68 wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
So, last night with about 20km remaining, the TV I was watching malfunctioned and wouldn't turn back on. I was wondering if there are any videos of the last 10-20km or so?


Its not much but its the best i could find Wink

Thanks Smile Good win for Gilbert, and a good ride by Navaurdauskas.
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