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Worlds 2009 - Mendrisio
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| Petterla |
Posted on 28-09-2009 15:54
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Eddy Merckx wrote:
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again, why so aggressive?
I was thinking of something instead of the tour of Benelux (which more or less everybody seemed to laugh at this year), or maybe as a warm up race to the Vuelta (which would be early autumn here  ).
Yes, the weather here are a bit unstable, but september is normally quite okay. Of course, there might be rain, but that my friend, you might find most places.
I know september might go good if it's in the first week even that is not a good option, here it is 5 °C today and it's been snowing or more snow and rain and that is in 220 metres above sea, what in 1000 m + more?
Anyway if it would be a stage race at all in Norway it wouldn't be in september.
Actually, the only reason why I said september is because the calender seems to packed already in the other periods that might be suited. There are of course lots of problems with the schedule, but still, I believe the timing is good. There were 50.000 or so at the criterium in Oslo, which really isn't bad (I know, many because of Armstrong).
A prologue in Stockholm, followed by a stage with a finish in Gothenburg. The next to Oslo, then to mountainstages in Norway (the only problem being that the mountains probably isn't hard enough (there is one climb that would probably be classified as a cat 1 in a GT). Then the ferry to Denmark and a stage to Aarhus, a time trial in Odense and the final stage into Copenhagen. Except for the mountainstages every stage would be in heavily populated areas. And as the scandinavians are extremely nationalistic, every nation would have a potential in it's capital. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 28-09-2009 16:05
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I dunno, a race in scandinavia, didn't they try something like that before? I know Erik Dekker used to win some Tour in Sweden once..
And the Tour of Denmark attracts somewhat interesting riders. But other than that, it doesn't seem to inviting, because of the weather... |
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| viking90 |
Posted on 28-09-2009 16:13
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Erik Dekker won Postgirot Open 94-95. The last years this race was were in 2002. It would have been amazing with a good stagerace in Sweden-Norway-Denmark. |
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| Johan92 |
Posted on 28-09-2009 16:13
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Don't see the troubles with the weather. From late May to early September it can be very nice weather.
Ringerike GP and Rogaland GP attracts a lot of people.
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| Shifty |
Posted on 28-09-2009 16:42
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Article on Cycling News that seems to be implying that Evans won because he got lucky. Maybe they just worded that the wrong way but if I were him I'd be kind of insulted by that. I'm admittedly not the biggest fan of Evans but I don't think there's any denying that he's worked very hard to get to where he has and just had some tough breaks and a team that isn't the best for the races he's set his sights on. I think if anything he just finally didn't have any bad luck.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:02
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I think it very cool that Evans won. But too bad that the spanish team f....d Fabian, he deserved a medal. And Gilbert was annoying to see, i don´t think he helped to relay at all.
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| Shifty |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:09
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I think they screwed over Cacellara pretty bad but not helping him chase at all but he also did it himself some by continuing to chase everything so they knew he had the strength and he'd do it. I think he shoulda held back for as long as he could once he got in that group and I don't know that he could have won but he definately could have another piece of harware and should in my opinion.
They screwed him.
He Screwed himself too though.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:16
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viking90 wrote:
Erik Dekker won Postgirot Open 94-95. The last years this race was were in 2002. It would have been amazing with a good stagerace in Sweden-Norway-Denmark.
Doubt it'll happend in near future, even though Post Danmark (main sponsor of Post Danmark Rundt) has fusionated with the swedish post service, Jesper Worre (race organizer) has said that stages in sweden ain't gonna happpend in near future as there is the "classic" stages to Vejle, Århus and Copenhagen that it would be "too hard" to race with stages in sweden. I call that bullshit as you could have an opening stage going from Göteborg to Varberg or something, then take the ferry from Varberg to Jutland. Not much harder than most other things.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:17
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The spanish even trapped Fabian when the top3 went away. I think a bid miscalculation by them, had Sanchez gone with them instead of bulling Fabian he could have won. So basically australians and russians must thank whoever decided to play it like that.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:58
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True. The Spanish tactic seemed pretty weird, but there's a chance that they just didn't have any power left. |
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| Ezio |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:12
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It seemed to me that their top riders just didn't want to help eachother, too many captains maybe.
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| dimagico |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:15
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i think that happened because Sanchez and Valverde doesn´t sim to cope together... neither they can work as a team. They both haD time to counter at the bottom of the hill... but they just didn´t want to start first... (regardless the teammate in chase1)
Edited by dimagico on 28-09-2009 18:16
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:20
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Bosskardo wrote:
I think it very cool that Evans won. But too bad that the spanish team f....d Fabian, he deserved a medal. And Gilbert was annoying to see, i don´t think he helped to relay at all.
why would he need to help. there were 2 spaniards in that group. at least he tried to attack near the end.
It wasn't up for the belgians to chase
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:31
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
I think it very cool that Evans won. But too bad that the spanish team f....d Fabian, he deserved a medal. And Gilbert was annoying to see, i don´t think he helped to relay at all.
why would he need to help. there were 2 spaniards in that group. at least he tried to attack near the end.
It wasn't up for the belgians to chase
Sure the 2 Spaniards should have relayed, what with them having a teammate, Rodriguez, up the road ...
Edited by SportingNonsense on 28-09-2009 18:32
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:33
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there is nothing to complain..spaniards did great. Tactic lessons.
They had 3 guys at the front group..all quite exausted. How they let gap there and there when one of them was in lead ..was great to watch. How they destroyed much stronger Cancellara chanches was cruel but also great tactic play.
If italians had done this I would have been realy mad.. |
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| Ezio |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:39
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Don't think the italians was strong enough, without Bettini and Rebellin they don't have the strongest top-riders like last year.
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| ruben |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:44
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It's more fun with less powerfull nations. 1 super nation can kill a race |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:55
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dimagico wrote:
i think that happened because Sanchez and Valverde doesn´t sim to cope together... neither they can work as a team. They both haD time to counter at the bottom of the hill... but they just didn´t want to start first... (regardless the teammate in chase1)
During the Vuelta, Sanchez and Valverde were portrayed as being very good friends. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 28-09-2009 19:41
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It wasn't a matter of Valverde or Sanchez not working well as a team, but, in my opinion, a tactical mistake of the Spanish national team. Joaquim was very very very tired, but they still didn't attack because he was ahead of the "pack". It was obvious that he wasn't going to win, but it seems that Spain preferred a sure medal rather than a possible win. |
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 28-09-2009 20:52
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ruben wrote:
They didn't fade before Arvesen, for the second time, they faded at the same time as Arvesen, on the first climb of the last lap when Cancellara accelerated and when 9 men were left.
And I know Arvesen finished 1 group in front of Hoogerland, but who cares after you get dropped by the best 9 anyway?
Hoogerland even attacked with Kolobnev and Rodriguez in the penultimate lap. So what you were saying is simply a lie.
I've heard that Hoogerland is called Jonny Testosterony in the bunch. Nice nickname..
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