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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:33
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I dont have the game!
Please can someone tell me the stats please!! |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:42
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You don't need the game! You can just open the .cdb in the Fast Editor or Lachi's editor
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:43
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Doesn't matter, you can open the .cdb with Lachi's editor.
It happens a lot that people ask such things, we can't always be bothered to search for their stats 
Allright then...
Adam Yates has 6 potential
Simon has 7 potential.
FL-MO-HI-TT-PRL-COB-SP-ACC-DH-FTR-STA-RES-REC-AVG
Edited by Jesleyh on 08-11-2013 15:44
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:46
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Help me with this guys
Davide Formolo
Alberto Bettiol
Andrea Zordan
Gianfranco Zilioli
Bonnamour
Fábio Mansilhas |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:47
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Thank You very much ! ! ! |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-11-2013 15:49
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A lot of those are at least in the 2014 update DB Jorge14
Have a look yourself...
Jesleyh attached the following file:
Edited by Jesleyh on 08-11-2013 15:50
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| cio93 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 16:25
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I haven't had much time lately, so I've only come to take a look at the stats now.
Especially some U23 riders I gained a fair bit of knowledge on during the season are a bit off imo.
Louis Vervaeke: overall better climber. 4th in Valle d'Aosta, a very mountainious race, on par with Formolo and Chevrier.
Jasha Sütterlin: more MO. 28th and 26th in Avenir is not too impressive, but definitely more than 57.
Andrea Zordan: has to be WAY better. Possible star sprinter in the future, gets over hills really good. Somewhere around 65 hill and 68 sprint with 5 or 6 potential at least.
Alberto Bettiol: he's stronger. 7th in the EC RR, 7th in the Italian NC, 10th in RVV. Probably a rouleur. Surely better HIL.
Alexander Foliforov: some more MO. Just behind Aru in a MTT in 2012, 5th in Valle d'Aosta 2013. Around 67 maybe.
Dylan Teuns: far more MO. Is a climber, not a puncheur (or at least similar). 3rd in Ronde de l'Isard with a big mountain stage.
Daniel Klemme: more SP. Won two stages in China this season, one against an always very consistent Rico Dean Rogers. Maybe 67 or 68.
Maximilian Schachmann: give him the chance to be a good TTer. Bronze in last year's Juniors WC ITT, a decent 12th in this year's U23 one considering he's only 19.
And a fun fact about Davide Formolo: he goes backwards in sprints. Really. If there was a way to give less than 50 in a stat, his sprint stat should be the first to go there. 
PS: I could go on and say Herklotz deserves 68 MO and a chance to develop as stage racer, but I'd like to know other people's opinion as I know I'm not unbiased here.
So does anyone agree?
Edited by cio93 on 08-11-2013 16:31
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 08-11-2013 16:29
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Not all the stats for young riders were updated this update, so yeah, I am currently doing an update so they should be better. Will take considerations of your suggestions
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:15
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Hmm, your suggestions seem spot on Cio
Derk Abel Bekeringh should get an update to 65 or 66 MO & HI as well,. He's a talented climber. No huge talent, but he's good.
And @ Herklotz, I'd say 69HI & 68MO. So sometimes he'll develop as a climber and sometimes as a puncheur I guess. I still see him as a puncheur though.
@Alakagom Need any help with CT stats? There's quite some that needs to be updated, and now that my test week(well, actually 2 weeks, my school is evil  ) is over, I've got some time left.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:24
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Jesleyh wrote:
Hmm, your suggestions seem spot on Cio
Derk Abel Bekeringh should get an update to 65 or 66 MO & HI as well,. He's a talented climber. No huge talent, but he's good.
And @ Herklotz, I'd say 69HI & 68MO. So sometimes he'll develop as a climber and sometimes as a puncheur I guess. I still see him as a puncheur though.
@Alakagom Need any help with CT stats? There's quite some that needs to be updated, and now that my test week(well, actually 2 weeks, my school is evil ) is over, I've got some time left.
Yeah that would be very good. Well I am making sure PCT is spot on. Should be the best in some time for those Daily DB's. WT small stats updates obviously. But since I have exams in January I won't have much time for CT stats, so yeah PM me after you finish your test week in 2 weeks 
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:40
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I Could help you with a lot of stats if anyone need tell me, |
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:40
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I Could help you with a lot of stats if anyone need tell me, |
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:45
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Jesleyh wrote:
A lot of those are at least in the 2014 update DB Jorge14
Have a look yourself...
Jesleyh i think you atached a wrong cdb file i only see one rider in DB its Lois Garneau |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:46
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That's strange, it should be the correct one.
Are you opening it with Lachi's Editor? The official one can't handle PCMdaily DB('s awesomeness)
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 08-11-2013 17:57
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Yeah i handle now with Lachis thank you.
Need help with anything |
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| PhilipBusch |
Posted on 09-11-2013 20:06
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Herklotz is definately as much a real climber as a puncheur.
https://www.procyc...?id=118742 |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 09-11-2013 20:15
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Yes, I know about that result(which ended with a downhill btw, but whatever ), I'm not denying that he's a good climber, but he has more good results on hills than mountains.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 09-11-2013 20:18
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The amount of young riders that get some results in mountains at U23 and then go to achieve nothing in pro ranks is very high.
Plus we have no idea how that races really panned out.
That is not saying he might not become a great climber, but I doubt he'll ever be amazing.
Edited by Alakagom on 09-11-2013 20:22
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| PhilipBusch |
Posted on 09-11-2013 21:06
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It's just that he has shown several times that he is a good climber on the long climbs too. And of course he has shown more in hilly races, there are more hilly races than mountainous ones in u23. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 09-11-2013 21:29
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Well we can't use others as it's the only mountain stage he rode so far.
Plus the Thüringen one maybe, where he distanced his breakaway companion Foliforov, definitely one of the better U23 climbers, by 3 minutes. Albeit it was more of a Beijing stage 4 climb.
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