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Tour de France 11 Stage 18: Pinerolo > Galibier Serre Chavalier 200km
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| dgtgoheels |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:08
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What a great stage! Brave move by Andy. I actually found myself cheering for him which was a bit rare. And Voeckler! The guy just knows how to fight. His finish reminded me of when he kept yellow back in 04. Great moment for cycling.
In a completely unrelated event to the Tour de France, I am feeling a bit sick *sniffs* for work tomorrow. I might go ahead and call in and just have to miss a day. |
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:11
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Zanci93 wrote:
Roman wrote:
issoisso wrote:
After today he's barely a threat. He would be if he gained time which he didn't. He now has one stage to gain about 3 minutes. Not happening.
He maybe needs only half of that time to beat Evans and Voeckler. We will see tomorrow. If he won't have bad day, he can gain that time on Evans, if the race situation allow him to ride for himself.
I don't expect an attack before the final climb tomorrow. The only one who could try is S. Sanchez but I don't know if he still has the motivation after todays stage. Fränk and Andy for sure won't attack before the final climb.
Those who fancy themselves for the KOM will probably attack early, Sanchez may decide to try for that, the only question is would the Schlecks and Evans let him? |
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| hemsedal |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:16
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That yellow jersey needs to be on WADAs list of performance enhancing drugs. First Hushovd keeping longer than most people expecting, and now Voeckler who have just been awesome this last week. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:16
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Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Oh Ruben for every comment you write thousands of angels die ! 
I didn't expect a comment from you after this f*****g great performance from both Schlecks.
Agreed. I guess Ruben is just a bit of frustrated that Gesink doesn't do very well this year.
Good ride of him today, though. a several kilometeres in front, and that's it. Poor Rabobank and poor Gesink.
.. and a fabolous ride today. From both the Schlecks - you can't argue that  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:21
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Riis123 wrote:
Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Oh Ruben for every comment you write thousands of angels die !
I didn't expect a comment from you after this f*****g great performance from both Schlecks.
Agreed. I guess Ruben is just a bit of frustrated that Gesink doesn't do very well this year.
Good ride of him today, though. a several kilometeres in front, and that's it. Poor Rabobank and poor Gesink.
Interestingly Breukink said the other day that Gesink's performance has nothing to do with injuries, it's all bad form.
Then again Breukink's hardly smart so who knows.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:33
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Roman wrote:
Ennyzor wrote:
Frank has never been, and will never be a serious contender for the overall classification in a major tour. A spot on the podium is still possibly tho.
Read it again. Serious contender for the overall classification? "Possible podium contender" isn't "serious contender for the overall classification"?  
No. In 2009 Wiggins looked like a possible podium contender but he was never gonna win that.
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| Roman |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:37
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
No. In 2009 Wiggins looked like a possible podium contender but he was never gonna win that.
Sorry, but you really can't compare Wiggins and Frank Schleck in Grand Tours. 
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| Ennyzor |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:39
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Roman wrote:
Ennyzor wrote:
Frank has never been, and will never be a serious contender for the overall classification in a major tour. A spot on the podium is still possibly tho.
Read it again. Serious contender for the overall classification? "Possible podium contender" isn't "serious contender for the overall classification"?
I dont see why a contender for the podium, should also be a contender for the overall victory. S. Sanchez is also a podium contender (well not anymore, but at the start of the tour), but I dont believe anyone ever saw him as a contender for the victory. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:48
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Anybody ever seen "12 Angry Men"? It's like that in this topic
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:01
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great performance from both Schlecks
Wait, what? What Andy did was quite amazing indeed. But how the hell is what Frank did great performance? He just sit there at the back of the group for the entire climb and followed the others until the last slopes and then attacked a tired Cadel Evans and got a few seconds.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:06
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alexkr00 wrote:
great performance from both Schlecks
Wait, what? What Andy did was quite amazing indeed. But how the hell is what Frank did great performance? He just sit there at the back of the group for the entire climb and followed the others until the last slopes and then attacked a tired Cadel Evans and got a few seconds.
Tacticly speaking this stage was infact great for both of them. Even though what Andy did was nothing more than incredible, that should not overshadow what Frank did. He was still sitting there when riders like Sanchez and Contador had to drop back. I know that Contador did try to attack a bit, but still.
Just because Frank didn't attack doesn't mean that any grandma with a bike could do the same. |
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| mendoza_18 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:07
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I suppose Frank did what he had to do. It was not brilliant just selfless. It was good tactics from Leopard. Everyone else was tactically inept. Was silly to allow a GC contender that much time going into the last climb. I am no Schleck fan but he rode well and Leopard showed everyone up.
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:08
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124th and 143rd place? What is happening to the world's 2 best cyclists???? |
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| Skatchy |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:09
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and what did u wanted him to do? to help cadel catch up on Andy? he did what he had to do..keep an eye on the favorites...and when he saw that Voekler was getting droped he attacked...he did exactly what was expected of him |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:12
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issoisso wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Oh Ruben for every comment you write thousands of angels die !
I didn't expect a comment from you after this f*****g great performance from both Schlecks.
Agreed. I guess Ruben is just a bit of frustrated that Gesink doesn't do very well this year.
Good ride of him today, though. a several kilometeres in front, and that's it. Poor Rabobank and poor Gesink.
Interestingly Breukink said the other day that Gesink's performance has nothing to do with injuries, it's all bad form.
Then again Breukink's hardly smart so who knows.
Breukink hasn't said that anywhere. I follow all dutch news.
Whatever mistranslation has been used somehwere else is not my point.
Gesink said in an interview this morning that last night was the first night he didn't wake up from pain in his ribs and his back.
It was also the first day yesterday that they could massage his back. Before that the back was too sensitive and they simply left it at that.
Says enough about his back pain I reckon.
But it's simple to piss on riders who are injured and down. Which it was this no-brain person "Riis123" is doing.
Ofcourse, when you have no brain it's hard to think.
Gesink didn't perform this year??? What races have you watched? He was 2nd in the Tirreno, 3rd in Basque Country and 1st in Oman. Also 2nd and 3rd in the mountains in the Dauphine. He was in fine build up to the Tour and then hit the deck at 70 km/h
I want to see Riis123 post on this forum after he falls out of his car at 70 km/h
What a blithering idiot
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:16
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No reason to call people names. Relax. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 21-07-2011 20:17
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ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Zanci93 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Oh Ruben for every comment you write thousands of angels die !
I didn't expect a comment from you after this f*****g great performance from both Schlecks.
Agreed. I guess Ruben is just a bit of frustrated that Gesink doesn't do very well this year.
Good ride of him today, though. a several kilometeres in front, and that's it. Poor Rabobank and poor Gesink.
Interestingly Breukink said the other day that Gesink's performance has nothing to do with injuries, it's all bad form.
Then again Breukink's hardly smart so who knows.
Breukink hasn't said that anywhere. I follow all dutch news.
Whatever mistranslation has been used somehwere else is not my point.
Gesink said in an interview this morning that last night was the first night he didn't wake up from pain in his ribs and his back.
It was also the first day yesterday that they could massage his back. Before that the back was too sensitive and they simply left it at that.
Says enough about his back pain I reckon.
But it's simple to piss on riders who are injured and down. Which it was this no-brain person "Riis123" is doing.
Ofcourse, when you have no brain it's hard to think.
Gesink didn't perform this year??? What races have you watched? He was 2nd in the Tirreno, 3rd in Basque Country and 1st in Oman. Also 2nd and 3rd in the mountains in the Dauphine. He was in fine build up to the Tour and then hit the deck at 70 km/h
I want to see Riis123 post on this forum after he falls out of his car at 70 km/h
What a blithering idiot
Every year again on these forums, a new can of idiots opens at the Tour de France.
Pot, meet kettle. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 21:32
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Haha Ruben. You're so funny.
I meant this years edition of the Tour de France. I guess people with brains would had known that. But
Ofcourse, when you have no brain it's hard to think.
You're such a stereotyp of a blind fan. Sorry, but you are. Kind of ignorant. In fact, very ignorant. And an idiot too. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-07-2011 21:38
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Any Schleck : "everything went as planned in the morning".
Any chance he'll ever behave less robotic ? |
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| Ithaca |
Posted on 21-07-2011 21:39
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Riis123 wrote:
Haha Ruben. You're so funny.
I meant this years edition of the Tour de France. I guess people with brains would had known that. But
Ofcourse, when you have no brain it's hard to think.
You're such a stereotyp of a blind fan. Sorry, but you are. Kind of ignorant. In fact, very ignorant. And an idiot too.
... You're really not helping. |
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