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Tour de France 11 Stage 18: Pinerolo > Galibier Serre Chavalier 200km
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| Roman |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:23
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issoisso wrote:
After today he's barely a threat. He would be if he gained time which he didn't. He now has one stage to gain about 3 minutes. Not happening.
He maybe needs only half of that time to beat Evans and Voeckler. We will see tomorrow. If he won't have bad day, he can gain that time on Evans, if the race situation allow him to ride for himself.
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| Ennyzor |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:26
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Roman wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Say me Ruben, is still Frank Schleck no threat in GC? 
Frank has never been, and will never be a serious contender for the overall classification in a major tour. A spot on the podium is still possibly tho.
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:27
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Roman wrote:
ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Say me Ruben, is still Frank Schleck no threat in GC?
Yes. he is no threat. With the TT to come he needs 2/3 minutes on the rest
Has not, will not, and will never be a threat in the GC. |
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:27
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Roman wrote:
issoisso wrote:
After today he's barely a threat. He would be if he gained time which he didn't. He now has one stage to gain about 3 minutes. Not happening.
He maybe needs only half of that time to beat Evans and Voeckler. We will see tomorrow. If he won't have bad day, he can gain that time on Evans, if the race situation allow him to ride for himself.
I don't expect an attack before the final climb tomorrow. The only one who could try is S. Sanchez but I don't know if he still has the motivation after todays stage. Fränk and Andy for sure won't attack before the final climb. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:28
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Ennyzor wrote:
Frank has never been, and will never be a serious contender for the overall classification in a major tour. A spot on the podium is still possibly tho.
Read it again. Serious contender for the overall classification? "Possible podium contender" isn't "serious contender for the overall classification"?  
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| Crommy |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:29
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SportingNonsense wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
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Dear people who still think Cadel is a wheelsucker,
Would you kindly shut up.
Sincerely,
Crommy
Well, he still hasn't attacked once 
He did attack though! When Sanchez had his mechanical, Evans attacked. Sure, he didnt get away, but that was what started his long relay leading that group up the climb
Agreed - only two people attacked today: Andy and Cadel (and it's not the first time he's attacked this Tour). I'm not naive enough to suggest he is a very aggressive rider, but to suggest he never attacks is, to be honest, stupid. If you don't like him as a rider, fine, but you can't argue he never attacks
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| dakey11 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:31
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now everybody who bags evans can go hide after the effot he put in on the last climb got no help from anybody he most prob shoulda followed andy but the risk for him was to great now all i hope he gains/S.T on andy and then kills the TT
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:31
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Pure madness stage 
Leopard finally used the fact they had the best team. Andys attack must have been planned since they had two riders in the break, very nice move.
Awesome to see Andy try something completely crazy with succes who would tell it was gonna work . I hope he will take more risks in the next years 
What a Tour for Thomas Voeckler, definatly the year of his life! And Rolland finally reaching top level, yellow boost!
This third week makes it one of the best Tours of the last few years
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:35
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BouBBox wrote:
Pure madness stage
Leopard finally used the fact they had the best team. Andys attack must have been planned since they had two riders in the break, very nice move.
Awesome to see Andy try something completely crazy with succes who would tell it was gonna work . I hope he will take more risks in the next years
What a Tour for Thomas Voeckler, definatly the year of his life! And Rolland finally reaching top level, yellow boost!
This third week makes it one of the best Tours of the last few years
Finally someone who gets it Great day for Leopard great day for the Schlecks and also great day for Voeckler and Rolland. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:41
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Crommy wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Dear people who still think Cadel is a wheelsucker,
Would you kindly shut up.
Sincerely,
Crommy
Well, he still hasn't attacked once
He did attack though! When Sanchez had his mechanical, Evans attacked. Sure, he didnt get away, but that was what started his long relay leading that group up the climb
Agreed - only two people attacked today: Andy and Cadel (and it's not the first time he's attacked this Tour). I'm not naive enough to suggest he is a very aggressive rider, but to suggest he never attacks is, to be honest, stupid. If you don't like him as a rider, fine, but you can't argue he never attacks
I'll simply say this: Sastre used to have the reputation of a wheelsucker
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:47
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And the winner of this Tour has to be awesome :
-Voeckler (poor chance but who knows) nothing to say he is just awesome
-Evans : he is getting close to the end of his career and he deserves to win the Tour he has been strong and very regular, attacking a few times 
-A. Schleck after todays completely crazy move, I forgive him for the pyrenees
-F. Schleck he might just help his brother but if he wins, it wouldn't be undeserved, he attacked in the pyrenees...
I think that's it, unless Contador-Basso-Cunego manage to take a mid race breakaway but Leaopard has the team to afford it...
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:52
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issoisso wrote:
Crommy wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Dear people who still think Cadel is a wheelsucker,
Would you kindly shut up.
Sincerely,
Crommy
Well, he still hasn't attacked once
He did attack though! When Sanchez had his mechanical, Evans attacked. Sure, he didnt get away, but that was what started his long relay leading that group up the climb
Agreed - only two people attacked today: Andy and Cadel (and it's not the first time he's attacked this Tour). I'm not naive enough to suggest he is a very aggressive rider, but to suggest he never attacks is, to be honest, stupid. If you don't like him as a rider, fine, but you can't argue he never attacks
I'll simply say this: Sastre used to have the reputation of a wheelsucker
Don't compare Sastre and Evans. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:56
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Good decision to waive the time limit IMO
I_Mayo wrote:
Don't compare Sastre and Evans.
Why not? He used to be attacked by fans for "never attacking"
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 21-07-2011 18:58
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kumazan wrote:
How awesome would it be if they DQ all the riders hors délai. It's not going to happen, but such a small peloton could cause madness tomorrow.
If they had done that, Cadel Evans would have been second on points, because Hushovd, Gilbert and Cavendish were all outside if I'm reading the results correctly. |
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| khris |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:00
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ruben wrote:
Just remember kids. Everyday a Schleck wins an angel dies.
Good riddance! Who needs angels anyway? |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:01
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Definately a classic stage for me today. You had everything you could really want and at the end the true strongest riders and stars emerged.
I did keep thinking everytime Phil 'selective memory' Liggett said we have never seen in modern times an attack like this. We know that isn't really true. The most obvious example is Landis, but I guess he wasn't to be mentioned. Credit to Liggett though he was practically arguing with Sherwin that Contador was about to go bust and he did.
But after Monfort/QS rider probably on Leopard shopping list did a fantastic 'job of work' in the 'sport of professional cycling' for Andy (thats enough shewinisms!) he rode wonderfully. Gained a fan here, the way he was grovelling up that brutel last kilometer was cycling at its best.
I think the seeds for this attack have been set some time ago, thinking back to the Tour de Suisse and the times with Frank in the pack and Andy out front in the break with another Leopard.
Sets up a very interesting next 48 hours, tomorrow from the gun is going to be essential viewing.
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| Musaschi |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:03
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today of all the days i missed the stgae, because i was writing a test the university
does someone has an idea there the highlights of todays stage can be watched??? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:06
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Smowz wrote:
I did keep thinking everytime Phil 'selective memory' Liggett said we have never seen in modern times an attack like this. We know that isn't really true. The most obvious example is Landis, but I guess he wasn't to be mentioned.
The funniest moment in today's stage transmission by the Spanish commentators:
Carlos de Andrés: When was the last time we saw anything like this?
Pedro Delgado: Floyd Landis.
CdA: Uhm, I think it's better not to remember that.
PD: Don't ask then!
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:07
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AndySchleck wrote:
Can't the sprinter teams just agree to let many riders fall down in the bus so they are more than 20%?
Edit: Thats what you just said...
They can do that, but if the organisers don't think they're making an effort to get inside the time limit, they can still kick them out no matter how many are in the group. |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 21-07-2011 19:07
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issoisso wrote:
Good decision to waive the time limit IMO
I_Mayo wrote:
Don't compare Sastre and Evans.
Why not? He used to be attacked by fans for "never attacking"
To me putting Sastre in same category as Evans is a total nonsense. Sastre didn't attacked much, just because the only races he rode for the result was GTs.
Giro 2009 - two hard mountain stages, where he attacked and never looked back.
Tour 2008 could be one of the most boring in history if not the Sastre's attack on D'Huez, for which he was rewarded with overall win.
Win from breakaway in 2003.
You can say that Sastre as Andy really doesn't matter about rest of races on calendar, but in GTs he always tries to win some mountain stage. Even last two Tours, there were illogical attacks, but he still tried, so Sastre - a nonattacking rider? It just doesn't make sense to me. |
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