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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2013 17:57
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Ian Butler wrote:
I'm not angry. I just think he's a dumbass. Is that the only thing he can come up with? A WWII victim, millions died: I hope they were all beliebers.
He's just such a dumbass, it's hard to believe
Point 2... He's a 19yo American Celeb of course he is a twat.
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kumazan |
Posted on 16-04-2013 17:59
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TheManxMissile wrote:
1) He went to the museum at all. He could easily have been doing alot of worse things in the Netherlands
Such as?
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2) He is a 19yo American Celeb. He was clearly never going to write anything profound.
Then don't write at all, duh.
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3) What he wrote was not offensive in any way at all. He just wanted another fan, whats wrong with that?
If you visit that kind of museum, the absolute minimum people expect from you is to be respectful. Writing bullshit in the guestbook is not being respectful.
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sammyt93 |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:02
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was that all he left or was there more to it then that?
And Manx Missile, the fact he's 19 doesn't excuse him as he should know better by that age and I can safely say that I did having only just turned 20 within the last month. Also I can't think of anyone around my age that would have that poor judgement to write it.
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:09
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@Kumazan
Coffee shops, Red Light District, just not visiting the museum at all
How is it disrespectful?
@sammy
He wrote more than just that line.
"Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber."
Being 19 doesn't make you smart or aware automatically. It depends on a lot more than age eg. education and upbringing.
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Bikex |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:13
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I didn't like Bieber before but now he lost every tiny bit of respect I had for him, I just think it's not acceptable to write such bullshit in a guest book of a museum like that... If you make jokes about WW II that's a matter of humour you have and fine for me but if you do that in such a place it's just respectless... Bieber is a dumbass |
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doddy13 |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:19
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Right, I dislike Bieber, and I'm going to partially defend him here. (ugh, this doesn't fill me with joy).
The full entry to the guest book is:
Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber.
Inspiring to be here, good.
Saying Anne was a great girl, shows a little bit of his imaturity, but well meaning.
Belieber was a stupid comment, however I understand it in a way of the 'Beliebers' are like a sort of clique. A big interconnected group. Being a part of that is no bad thing, i guess.
Anyway, aside from that one line, I hope he went away learning something from the museum and maybe, just maybe the 'beliebers' will think about it all. How do we gain maturity? From making dumb mistakes, he made a dumb mistake with his comment. He'll hopefully learn from it.
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Posted on 16-04-2013 18:23
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I don't think Bieber knows he made a mistakee so he won't learn from it... |
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doddy13 |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:23
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Bikex wrote:
I don't think Bieber knows he made a mistakee so he won't learn from it...
That's the problem with being surrounded by yes men, who are paid a lot of money to be yes men.
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kumazan |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:24
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Coffee shops, Red Light District, just not visiting the museum at all
How is it disrespectful?
Why are coffee shops worse? And I'd rather not go to a museum than being a dumbass in there. If someone goes to Auschwitz and takes a dump in the gas chamber, would you still say that at least he went there?
Ah just read doddy's post. Still a dumbass, but much more understandable.
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Posted on 16-04-2013 18:34
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I'm not angry. I just think he's a dumbass. Is that the only thing he can come up with? A WWII victim, millions died: I hope they were all beliebers.
He's just such a dumbass, it's hard to believe
Point 2... He's a 19yo American Celeb of course he is a twat.
Beiber is Canadian. |
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:34
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kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Coffee shops, Red Light District, just not visiting the museum at all
How is it disrespectful?
Why are coffee shops worse? And I'd rather not go to a museum than being a dumbass in there. If someone goes to Auschwitz and takes a dump in the gas chamber, would you still say that at least he went there?
Ah just read doddy's post. Still a dumbass, but much more understandable.
What the fuck! How is that anywhere near his comment!
And by coffee shops i mean drugs. Which is bad because he is a leading role-model to thousands of teenagers. Instead he went to a museum about the holocaust.
Fans Thoughts:
"Look Justin did drugs, i'll do drugs." compared to
"Look Justin went to a holocaust museum, i want to go to one"
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Bikex |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:38
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Coffee shops, Red Light District, just not visiting the museum at all
How is it disrespectful?
Why are coffee shops worse? And I'd rather not go to a museum than being a dumbass in there. If someone goes to Auschwitz and takes a dump in the gas chamber, would you still say that at least he went there?
Ah just read doddy's post. Still a dumbass, but much more understandable.
What the fuck! How is that anywhere near his comment!
And by coffee shops i mean drugs. Which is bad because he is a leading role-model to thousands of teenagers. Instead he went to a museum about the holocaust.
Fans Thoughts:
"Look Justin did drugs, i'll do drugs." compared to
"Look Justin went to a holocaust museum, i want to go to one"
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"Look Justin wrote some dumb respectless bullshit into a guest book, I want to do that too!"
Edited by Bikex on 16-04-2013 18:38
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kumazan |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:40
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Coffee shops, Red Light District, just not visiting the museum at all
How is it disrespectful?
Why are coffee shops worse? And I'd rather not go to a museum than being a dumbass in there. If someone goes to Auschwitz and takes a dump in the gas chamber, would you still say that at least he went there?
Ah just read doddy's post. Still a dumbass, but much more understandable.
What the fuck! How is that anywhere near his comment!
And by coffee shops i mean drugs. Which is bad because he is a leading role-model to thousands of teenagers. Instead he went to a museum about the holocaust.
Fans Thoughts:
"Look Justin did drugs, i'll do drugs." compared to
"Look Justin went to a holocaust museum, i want to go to one"
So if he goes to a pub to have some drinks that's terrible too?
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:41
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But my question still isn't answered... Why is it respect less?
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kumazan |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:43
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TheManxMissile wrote:
But my question still isn't answered... Why is it respect less?
Because it's a fucking Holocaust museum, and NOBODY FUCKING CARES about Justina and her music.
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:45
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kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
But my question still isn't answered... Why is it respect less?
Because it's a fucking Holocaust museum, and NOBODY FUCKING CARES about Justina and her music.
Wrong, you don't care. He has several hundred thousand fans (probably millions, i dont know) who do care, and think this is a really good thing. Just because some people don't like his music doesn't make his comment disrespectful.
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Ian Butler |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:49
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Just saw the Boston thing again on the news. There's just no getting used to shit like this, looking at footage. Such a panic, people being afraid, running, crying, dying, helping each other.
"The Americans had it coming" is the worst reply ever. Nobody asks for this. Blaming "The Americans", or "The Muslims" is just silly. Shit, instead of keep killing innocent people (what the American government and the extremists are both doing), they should work out their differences with each other. It's naive to say: without violence. But at least STOP KILLING PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR FUCKING SHIT! (You can even drop every word in that sentence after 'people'
Damn.
In 5 years time everyone will be afraid to leave the house.
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Bikex |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:49
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It is just something you can't do! In a holocaust museum you should think about WW II be serious and don't write something like that in the guest book.
It gives the impression Bieber wouldn't even care about what's the museum about... |
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kumazan |
Posted on 16-04-2013 18:51
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
But my question still isn't answered... Why is it respect less?
Because it's a fucking Holocaust museum, and NOBODY FUCKING CARES about Justina and her music.
Wrong, you don't care. He has several hundred thousand fans (probably millions, i dont know) who do care, and think this is a really good thing. Just because some people don't like his music doesn't make his comment disrespectful.
You just don't get it, huh? Nobody fucking cares about what the guy does for a living in the context of the museum. And even worse is that he didn't just say "I hoped you'd have liked my music". No. He explicitely said that he hoped that she would have been a brainless teen with a massive personality cult over him, cause that's what a fucking belieber is.
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Posted on 16-04-2013 18:52
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I'm not angry. I just think he's a dumbass. Is that the only thing he can come up with? A WWII victim, millions died: I hope they were all beliebers.
He's just such a dumbass, it's hard to believe
Point 2... He's a 19yo American Celeb of course he is a twat.
Beiber is Canadian.
You guys can have him
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