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| Arnout |
Posted on 10-09-2009 14:26
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issoisso wrote:
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Why do you always think that when people dope, they dope during their whole career? Just curious.
For example the Contador case. I mean, Fuentes is gone long ago. Chances are he found a new doctor, but pointing at Fuentes to prove (or to accuse if you want) Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think.
About those '80 guys, they didn't dope. Well, they did, but they didn't use illegal substances. It simply wasn't illegal, so you can't blame the riders for anything. And so, when the dopingquestion is asked to them, no is the only right answer...
Remember when a while ago I told you I wasn't answering any of your arguments ever again because you constantly spout complete lies?
That post shows you haven't changed. The "wasn't illegal" thing is especially funny 
Over and out.
Read please. I didn't say Contador didn't dope during the Tour (which he may well have done), I say it is nonsense to use the Fuentes story to prove he doped in 2009.
And I know for example in the case about Ducrot that he was interviewed by someone and said, yes, I used substances which are considered doping and illegal. The interviewers of course headed "Ducrot admits doping".
But they weren't illegal back then. And that's what I mean. How can we blame cyclists for taking things which were not illegal in the days?
Edited by Arnout on 10-09-2009 14:26
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 10-09-2009 14:48
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Deadpool wrote:
fenian_1234 wrote:
2. Similar data from other riders in the Tour Top 20.
The only other rider giving out values is Basso, and his are normal.
Brad Wiggins has his here.
https://www.slipstreamsports.com/wp-co...file-3.pdf
Interesting to compare the two.
Edited the link now. 
Edited by fenian_1234 on 10-09-2009 15:08
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| ember |
Posted on 10-09-2009 14:52
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You gave us Armstrong's link.... |
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| Juan |
Posted on 10-09-2009 17:56
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Bosskardo wrote:
i think "Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think." is funnier.
Arnout wrote:
pointing at Fuentes to prove (or to accuse if you want) Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think.
lol Bosskardo
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 10-09-2009 19:00
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Juan wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
i think "Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think." is funnier.
Arnout wrote:
pointing at Fuentes to prove (or to accuse if you want) Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think.
lol Bosskardo
dont tease me, i was tired. But still i dont know how i missed half a sentence.
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| Juan |
Posted on 10-09-2009 19:07
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Bosskardo wrote:
Juan wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
i think "Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think." is funnier.
Arnout wrote:
pointing at Fuentes to prove (or to accuse if you want) Contador doped during the Tour of 2009 is a bit of nonsense I think.
lol Bosskardo
dont tease me, i was tired. But still i dont know how i missed half a sentence.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2009 19:57
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So this weeks cycling weekly says that Astana are having difficultly paying for the UCI pro tour license for 2010, the UCI also says that they are "under review".
However if the license is dropped then Contador gets let out of his contract. Simples.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 10-09-2009 20:13
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Yeah, I thought that would happen |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-09-2009 20:14
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That's exactly why Astana gets money.
Simple 3 way exchange. Astana gets money, Garmin gets Contador, Sky get Wiggins.
done.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-09-2009 15:55
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Astana will be riding Merckx bikes
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 11-09-2009 16:00
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Good move for Merckx - if Astana hang on to Bertie. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-09-2009 16:01
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fenian_1234 wrote:
if Astana hang on to Bertie.
Will. Not. Happen.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 11-09-2009 17:48
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Anyone else having a giggle at Astarloza's defence reasons? Really, come up with something slightly more plausable please.
Sure, you can say that EPO peaks after a training session in a hyperbaric environment.... 24 hours after use, but to claim that being caught for using CERA was due to a hyperbaric training session. I mean, come on. How dumb is Astarloza/his lawyer? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-09-2009 18:51
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Ranks right up there with Rumsas' "The EPO is for my mother in law. She's too hairy" defence.
Ridiculous. What he says has NOTHING to do with exogenous EPO being found in his blood and urine. Basically he's arguing the chewbacca defense.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-09-2009 20:32
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To the guy who said Vinokourov made a mistake and only doped once in his life:
Witnesses surfaced this week of him meeting with Michele Ferrari in a secluded location in the swiss mountains shortly before the Vuelta.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-09-2009 21:30
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Remember, isso, that Ferrari is only a training advisor  |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 11-09-2009 21:36
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and lets face it, if i wanted training from Ferrari I would meet him in a secluded place too.
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| knasen |
Posted on 11-09-2009 22:03
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issoisso wrote:
To the guy who said Vinokourov made a mistake and only doped once in his life:
Witnesses surfaced this week of him meeting with Michele Ferrari in a secluded location in the swiss mountains shortly before the Vuelta.
Source? But nothing surprise me any more. So it can be true. |
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| AaB-ern |
Posted on 11-09-2009 22:38
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Team Saxo Bank demands an additional € 13.1 millions from IT Factory CEO, Stein Bagger + his wife (From their house, cars furnitures and such, I guess?).
The deal with IT Factory should have added € 21,3 millions to the team budget, but IT Factory only managed to send € 1,9 million before they were stopped. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-09-2009 08:06
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Just to further hammer Damsgaard's credibility a bit more, here's his reaction a while ago when Rasmussen had the same blood value variations as Armstrong had this Tour.
Rasmussen did have a blood transfusion during the Tour or followed an EPO cure just before the Tour.
The increase of 3.6% in his hematocrit value and 1,1 gram per deciliter for his hemoglobin value is suspect, physiologically impossible and scientifically impossible to explain in another way than that Rasmussen used doping
Completely different to his "oh that can have many explanations" quote about armstrong.
The difference of course is that Rasmussen doesn't pay his salary.
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