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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 16-09-2009 07:38
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Goldberger wrote:
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And, at least we have 6 good riders, not 1 good rider and 8 useless ones 
I would like to know what country you are talking about?..........
With this route, Norway barely has one rider who'll be able to do anything  |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 10:35
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is it really possible that this sole few hundred meters climb will definitely decide the outcome of the ITT to Cancellara?
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord will delete my browser history.
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 16-09-2009 10:48
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It's not even worth discussing the outcome of the TT. Cancellara will win no matter what, even on a bad day.
He's the best on the flat and the best when it's slightly uphill. If there's a really steep part he doesn't lose enough time there.
I think top 3 will be Cancellara, Grabsch and Wiggins. |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 12:40
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Official spanish team:
RR: Juan Manuel Gárate, Oscar Freire (Rabobank),
Dani Moreno, JoaquÃm RodrÃguez, Alejandro Valverde (Caisse d'Epargne), Juan José Cobo (Fuji Servetto), Carlos Barredo (Quick Step) , Rubén Plaza (Liberty), Samuel Sanchez (Euskatel)
ITT: Iván Gutiérrez (Caisse d'Epargne) ,Héctor Guerra (Liberty)
three potencial winners in the RR!!!! |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 12:47
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The Italian one isn't bad either:
Cunego, Ballan, Pozzato, Garzelli, Basso, Visconti, Paolini, Scarponi - and 1 more spot to be decided between Bruseghin, Santambrogio and Tosatto. |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 12:58
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is going to be really beautiful fight !! |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 13:29
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Goldberger wrote:
It's not even worth discussing the outcome of the TT . Cancellara will win no matter what, even on a bad day.
He's the best on the flat and the best when it's slightly uphill. If there's a really steep part he doesn't lose enough time there.
I think top 3 will be Cancellara, Grabsch and Wiggins.
No, Grabsch is equally good, if not slightly better than him, Cancellara is better in corners though.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 16-09-2009 16:52
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rjc_43 wrote:
Britain, for one (not wishing to slag my own country off too much).
And our best hope being an ex-druggy. Though I'd actually say that Downing has a better chance than Cummings and Millar combined.
but don't slag off cummings - he's one of the good guys
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 16-09-2009 17:02
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issoisso wrote:
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Only six riders?  Oh, sure their were beaten by Norway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That doesn't really matter. They have a much better chance of getting a result. That's really what matters
To be more serious, I do not really think Netherlands has a really great opurtunity to be better then Norway next Sunday. Indeed Norway got a Hushovd, who is reported in a really good shape(much better then in ToM) and we all know how EBH powns in Britain. I am not sure, but goes Karsten Kroon for the Worlds? He is anyway the greatest hope for the Netherlands.
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| ruben |
Posted on 16-09-2009 17:17
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Norway have 2 great riders, Hushovd and Hagen. Hushovd has no chance on this kind of race, sorry.
Hagen with a little chance, but not much (still have the ENECO hilly stage in my mind)
The Netherlands have Gesink and Kroon, who have PROVED they can handle THIS kind of route, unlike Hushovd and Hagen, and they have some prety nice backup with Boom, Moerenhout, and Hoogerland (and for the last place Langeveld/Tankink or Weening).
Compare that to norway, I'm sorry, but it just doesn't add up, on THIS kind of course, The Dutch team is miles better
Take: 3. 343. (92) [NOR] ARVESEN Kurt Asle SAX 09/02/1975 159
With 159 CQ points, he would not even be in the op 15(!!!!!!!) of Dutch riders.
Except Hagen and Hushovd, they are nowhere near the Dutch riders level.
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 16-09-2009 17:18
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schleck93 wrote:
No, Grabsch is equally good, if not slightly better than him, Cancellara is better in corners though.
That's not true, Cancellara is better. https://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/h2h.asp, This doesn't show it too well but Cancellara is way better than Grabsch, also on the flat.
Have you seen any tt's this year btw? Tour de suisse, tour de france, vuelta? |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 18:16
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According to reports De Waele will be the 9th man for Belgium, so no Devolder :'( |
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Posted on 16-09-2009 18:28
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Goldberger wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
No, Grabsch is equally good, if not slightly better than him, Cancellara is better in corners though.
That's not true, Cancellara is better. https://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/h2h.asp, This doesn't show it too well but Cancellara is way better than Grabsch, also on the flat.
Have you seen any tt's this year btw? Tour de suisse, tour de france, vuelta?
None of the tours TTs where flat, Monaco had a hill, Annecy had a hill, whihc makes them non-flat. Valencia was flat yes, but not WC distance (50km). Where Grabsch gains major on everybody even Cancellara.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 16-09-2009 18:29
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Xavier wrote:
According to reports De Waele will be the 9th man for Belgium, so no Devolder :'(
Ofcourse he doesn´t after pointing out that their coach is an idiot for only going with one leader.
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Posted on 16-09-2009 18:47
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He didnt say the coach was an idiot, he said he was dissapointed and that he felt humiliated and bla bla bla |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 16-09-2009 18:55
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schleck93 wrote:
None of the tours TTs where flat, Monaco had a hill, Annecy had a hill, whihc makes them non-flat. Valencia was flat yes, but not WC distance (50km). Where Grabsch gains major on everybody even Cancellara.
Ok, I see that we have different opininon, but I can certain Cancellara is better also in a completely flat time trial without corners or hills. He simply is the best, and has proved it countless of times |
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| Juan |
Posted on 16-09-2009 18:57
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The thing is that we didn't see a lot of flat50kmwithoutanycorner TTs with Cance and Grabsch to judge.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 16-09-2009 18:58
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Juan wrote:
The thing is that we didn't see a lot of flat50kmwithoutanycorner TTs with Cance and Grabsch to judge.
There isn't any form the recent years (this year and last year). Where they both attended.
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 16-09-2009 19:11
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But we will see in Mendrisio then, or is that little hill in the middle too hard for Grabsch? At least until the first checkpoint will be flat, right? |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 16-09-2009 19:18
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It is a 10% hill which quiet obvuisly means it's not all flat, and Grabsch won't be in the lead as the longer the TT gets the better he is.
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