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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:32
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beastman123 wrote:
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Given the explanations going with it, and the lack of official press releases confirming or denying anything, I can't really see how it would be anything else than rumours at the moment.
For once I was dead serious...
So if I guy has had quite a few reports about him being found guilty they might be rumors but if a guy gets tested 24/7 and never a hint of anything he's guilty. I don't see where you're going here ? What are you implying ? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:34
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issoisso wrote:
didn't he once say something along the lines of "french riders are stupid not to dope"? Not sure if that was him... I've read on cyclismag that a French talent wishing to remain anonymous said that.
That it was L'Hottelerie is just a (likely) supposition. |
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:35
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or they will go crazy about it and make it a national offence and kill the rider for ever (like they did for rasmussen, vino, basso, amstrong and so on) or they won't speak about and denie it saying it utter bulls**t
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| matt493 |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:37
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Aquarius wrote:
beastman123 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Given the explanations going with it, and the lack of official press releases confirming or denying anything, I can't really see how it would be anything else than rumours at the moment.
For once I was dead serious...
So if I guy has had quite a few reports about him being found guilty they might be rumors but if a guy gets tested 24/7 and never a hint of anything he's guilty. I don't see where you're going here ? What are you implying ?
Your right need to fix it.
edit: fixed.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:47
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beastman123 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Given the explanations going with it, and the lack of official press releases confirming or denying anything, I can't really see how it would be anything else than rumours at the moment.
For once I was dead serious...
So if I guy has had quite a few reports about him being found guilty they might be rumors but if a guy gets tested 24/7 and never a hint of anything and he isn't French then he's guilty. lol, wouldn't that be an anti-French bias by chance ?
I'm saying "it's rumours" because that's what it is at the moment. My conviction is that he is guilty, but I have no real facts to prove it, so I won't say he's guilty until something is special.
If you're trying to compare his case to one of your compatriots, there was heavy evidence about Armstrong, Hamilton or Landis, only the two later were officially guilty though. If you want a "was Lance Armstrong on dope ?" debate, I'm sure we'd all enjoy it. |
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| matt493 |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:50
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Aquarius wrote:
beastman123 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Given the explanations going with it, and the lack of official press releases confirming or denying anything, I can't really see how it would be anything else than rumours at the moment.
For once I was dead serious...
So if I guy has had quite a few reports about him being found guilty they might be rumors but if a guy gets tested 24/7 and never a hint of anything and he isn't French then he's guilty.
lol, wouldn't that be an anti-French bias by chance ?
I'm saying "it's rumours" because that's what it is at the moment. My conviction is that he is guilty, but I have no real facts to prove it, so I won't say he's guilty until something is special.
If you're trying to compare his case to one of your compatriots, there was heavy evidence about Armstrong, Hamilton or Landis, only the two later were officially guilty though. If you want a "was Lance Armstrong on dope ?" debate, I'm sure we'd all enjoy it.
Yes it probably is an anti french comment and i would hate it if there was a did lance dope debate because it would be most of the americans against everyone else.
edit: and it's more of an anti french media bias.
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:50
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he was on his first TDF for sure they have reanalysed his sample and found EPO which was unknown back then (scandal in france media killed him) |
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| matt493 |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:51
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ladagnous29 wrote:
he was on his first TDF for sure they have reanalysed his sample and found EPO which was unknown back then (scandal in france media killed him)
Says who. Probably the French media.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:54
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Mike should just change the name to "PCM.Daily.Debates.On.Doping" 
It gets really boring after a while.
Then people start saying I'm the cause when I never ever started even a single one of these myself. That's when I go from bored to angry. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:55
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issoisso wrote:
That's when I go from bored to angry.
ISSO MAD, ISSO ANGRY, ISSO WANT TO KILL YOU |
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:57
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beastman123 wrote:
ladagnous29 wrote:
he was on his first TDF for sure they have reanalysed his sample and found EPO which was unknown back then (scandal in france media killed him)
Says who. Probably the French media.
yeah l'equipe with the result from whichever lab does TDF testing |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-05-2008 21:59
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If you want an Armstrong doping discussion, start a new thread or use one of the existing ones. We've been over it hundreds of times. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:01
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My view on the lance issue is this, I am not sure if he doped or not, but regardless of that, I do believe that the French media has been out to get him since he started winning the Tour repeatedly. I don't know if it involves being beaten by an American 7 year's in a row, or what else, but I do believe that the French media is out to get him, and have, occasionally (but not always) fabricated evidence against him. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:01
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the same lab which seems to fuck up a lot
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| matt493 |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:01
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CrueTrue wrote:
If you want an Armstrong doping discussion, start a new thread or use one of the existing ones. We've been over it hundreds of times.
He's right but please let's end this discussion before I get really involved and then have to go all Jackie Chan on all y'all. So in conclusion let's get back on topic.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:02
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Deadpool and Levi, the discussion is over in this thread. Start a new one if you like. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:03
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Too bad Jackie Chan is old and reduced to being in stupid comedies with Chris Tucker, so I'm not really afraid
Also, Crue, I was in the process of posting that as you stepped in and ended the discussion
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| matt493 |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:06
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Deadpool wrote:
Too bad Jackie Chan is old and reduced to being in stupid comedies with Chris Tucker, so I'm not really afraid
Also, Crue, I was in the process of posting that as you stepped in and ended the discussion
I loved those rush hour movies and he was in a new movie called the forbidden Kingdom which was pretty good so I heard.
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:07
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rush hour where insane |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-05-2008 22:09
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And this discussion goes to "Cafe Pedro"  |
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