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Le Tour de France 2014 - Stage 7 - Épernay - Nancy
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:39
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Ollfardh wrote:
Just to confirm, the 3km rule does apply here?
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:41
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Iguwell wrote:
Did I see Atapuma riding on even though it said "Abandon"?
Atapuma is comfirmed as adandoned on letour website !! |
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| Metriz- |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:41
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
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TRENTIN  Pointless attack backfires on Sagan.
You are the best general after the battle we have here. This could be the winning move and Sagan always tries to win. And still he almost got it. It is so easy to make fun of it, but it is stupid. Other way, he would be called wheelsucker 
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed. 
I just think he is tired of getting fucked over by guys, Cancellara, not wanting to help him, so he followed GVA and couldn't decide if he should go 100% or not as GVA is not a slow guy. |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:42
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Was König involved in the crash? Otherwise Tiago Machado must be their new GC rider. I'm pretty sure I saw Atapuma with 2 other BMC riders in the last few KMs but I must be hallucinating then. Does BMC have another little black guy? |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:45
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed.
Hahahaha, do you belive yourself when you say something like this?
Sagan lost a bit of speed because he's now focusing on being an all-arounder, but nowhere near the level you're trying to show that. The guy got 2nd three times this year and two times 4th in Tour and we're only 1 week in the race. Do you realize how good results these are? Before Le Tour , were you the one who kept saying that he will never get Top 5 this Tour, as he's now a puncheur? Sagan's attack was a bit dumb, yes, but he's sick of no one wanting to help him, which proves my point that he's still on top.
The only two guys who are faster than him are Greipel and Kittel at the moment, which is faaaar from calling him a bad sprinter, saying that he lost alot of speed and stupid things like that.
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:48
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admirschleck wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed.
Hahahaha, do you belive yourself when you say something like this?
Sagan lost a bit of speed because he's now focusing on being an all-arounder, but nowhere near the level you're trying to show that. The guy got 2nd three times this year and two times 4th in Tour and we're only 1 week in the race. Do you realize how good results these are? Before Le Tour , were you the one who kept saying that he will never get Top 5 this Tour, as he's now a puncheur? Sagan's attack was a bit dumb, yes, but he's sick of no one wanting to help him, which proves my point that he's still on top.
The only two guys who are faster than him are Greipel and Kittel at the moment, which is faaaar from calling him a bad sprinter, saying that he lost alot of speed and stupid things like that.
In every spring classic everyone is expecting Sagan to chase down everyone too. It's a big challenge being the one everyone looks at. |
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:50
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Looking at next stages, I'd say Sagan will have another good chance at stage 11 or 12 to try the win.
Edited by b3n3v3nt3 on 11-07-2014 16:52
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:51
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Ugh Gerrans, always coming up out of nowhere...
I agree with bbl, Gerrans did a dangerous move there when he pushed right into Talansky's lane, just to get across to the other side. Talansky looked a bit like "Why the hell am I sprinting" moments before the crash, and might have actually made room on his own choic... By then, it was too late though. I'd prefer a view from atop to judge the crash though. Until now I have only seen the crash from the front, but I'd shift the blame more towards Gerrans than Talansky.
Either way; too bad for Talansky, hopefully it won't affect him too much come tomorrow. Same goes for VDB of course.
Great racing by Sagan & GVA. Would have loved for GVA to take the win today but alas, Trentin with his second win at le Tour. Quite something.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:52
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admirschleck wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed.
Hahahaha, do you belive yourself when you say something like this?
Sagan lost a bit of speed because he's now focusing on being an all-arounder, but nowhere near the level you're trying to show that. The guy got 2nd three times this year and two times 4th in Tour and we're only 1 week in the race. Do you realize how good results these are? Before Le Tour , were you the one who kept saying that he will never get Top 5 this Tour, as he's now a puncheur? Sagan's attack was a bit dumb, yes, but he's sick of no one wanting to help him, which proves my point that he's still on top.
The only two guys who are faster than him are Greipel and Kittel at the moment, which is faaaar from calling him a bad sprinter, saying that he lost alot of speed and stupid things like that.
All these 2nd 4th 5th places are good for the green jersey classification but else they dont mean anything. It's stage wins that count. I said hes a jack of all trades master of none. On Stage 2 he also got beat by Kwiatkowski and van Avermaet in the sprint. With Cav and Modolo out, Démare being poor and Greipel being lost for 5 stages it was very easy to get 4th place on a stage. I'm not saying he has lost a shitload of speed and is very slow but he was a guy who 2 years ago beat Greipel in a long straight drag race, the 2012 Greipel who was in great shape back then and is now scrambling for 4th. That's a definite drop of speed. |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:52
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b3n3v3nt3 wrote:
Looking at next stages, I'd say Sagan will have another good chance at stage 11 or 12 to try the win.
Or he'll join the break tomorrow because he can't wait for 12. |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 11-07-2014 16:54
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Shonak wrote:
Ugh Gerrans, always coming up out of nowhere...
I agree with bbl, Gerrans did a dangerous move there when he pushed right into Talansky's lane, just to get across to the other side. Talansky looked a bit like "Why the hell am I sprinting" moments before the crash, and might have actually made room on his own choic... By then, it was too late though. I'd prefer a view from atop to judge the crash though. Until now I have only seen the crash from the front, but I'd shift the blame more towards Gerrans than Talansky.
Either way; too bad for Talansky, hopefully it won't affect him too much come tomorrow. Same goes for VDB of course.
Great racing by Sagan & GVA. Would have loved for GVA to take the win today but alas, Trentin with his second win at le Tour. Quite something.
Master of none? Sagan is the best uphill sprinter in the peloton. And guess what, there hasn't been an uphill sprint yet. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:01
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Ha, wrong quote Iguwell, please don't drag me into all those Sagan discussions.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:02
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Shonak wrote:
Ha, wrong quote Iguwell, please don't drag me into all those Sagan discussions.
The Sagan fans meltdown is real, the world is just a blur now from all these tears of rage and the missclicks happen.
P.S Iguwell, I think youll find Froome being the best at uphill sprint. Just saying
Edited by Kirchen_75 on 11-07-2014 17:04
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:03
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I_Mayo wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
TRENTIN Pointless attack backfires on Sagan.
You are the best general after the battle we have here. This could be the winning move and Sagan always tries to win. And still he almost got it. It is so easy to make fun of it, but it is stupid. Other way, he would be called wheelsucker
Nobody calls Sagan wheelsucker. But this attack was straight dumb. There're only several sprinters who can beat Sagan in flat stage, so why would he attack when it's clear that none of them is left in group. Another tactical mistake for him in my book.
I agree it was not the wisest move ever boys, but that is part of what Peter is as the rider, he tries to win always and you cant be sure in the sprint. But i dont think it costed him the win, rather the great lead out from Kwiatek did and stage not being few metres longer.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 11-07-2014 17:03
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:05
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Ha, wrong quote Iguwell, please don't drag me into all those Sagan discussions.
The Sagan fans meltdown is real, the world is just a blur now from all these tears of rage and the missclicks happen.
P.S Iguwell, I think youll find Froome being the best uphill sprint. Just saying
Damn, do you realize of annoying you are?? |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:05
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Fuck you Gerrans. Just because Cav hurt you doesn't mean you can go around doing it to everyone else.
Blaming Talanskys crash on Gerrans, really? For me it was 100% Talanskys fault for even being in that position at that moment, then start looking back and doing some other really strange stuff in a sprint, stupid... |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:06
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admirschleck wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed.
Hahahaha, do you belive yourself when you say something like this?
Sagan lost a bit of speed because he's now focusing on being an all-arounder, but nowhere near the level you're trying to show that. The guy got 2nd three times this year and two times 4th in Tour and we're only 1 week in the race. Do you realize how good results these are? Before Le Tour , were you the one who kept saying that he will never get Top 5 this Tour, as he's now a puncheur? Sagan's attack was a bit dumb, yes, but he's sick of no one wanting to help him, which proves my point that he's still on top.
The only two guys who are faster than him are Greipel and Kittel at the moment, which is faaaar from calling him a bad sprinter, saying that he lost alot of speed and stupid things like that.
You cant argue with Kirchen,he is a blind hater...
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:06
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Riis123 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Ha, wrong quote Iguwell, please don't drag me into all those Sagan discussions.
The Sagan fans meltdown is real, the world is just a blur now from all these tears of rage and the missclicks happen.
P.S Iguwell, I think youll find Froome being the best uphill sprint. Just saying
Damn, do you realize of annoying you are??
I do realise that I'm annoying now but this is too funny |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:08
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Ha, wrong quote Iguwell, please don't drag me into all those Sagan discussions.
The Sagan fans meltdown is real, the world is just a blur now from all these tears of rage and the missclicks happen.
P.S Iguwell, I think youll find Froome being the best uphill sprint. Just saying
Damn, do you realize of annoying you are??
I do realise that I'm annoying now but this is too funny
I'm not even rooting for Sagan I'm just stating the obvious because you can't see it. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-07-2014 17:10
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
I guess the fact Sagan attacked on that just shows that he hasn't got confidence in his sprint anymore which proves my point that he lost speed.
Hahahaha, do you belive yourself when you say something like this?
Sagan lost a bit of speed because he's now focusing on being an all-arounder, but nowhere near the level you're trying to show that. The guy got 2nd three times this year and two times 4th in Tour and we're only 1 week in the race. Do you realize how good results these are? Before Le Tour , were you the one who kept saying that he will never get Top 5 this Tour, as he's now a puncheur? Sagan's attack was a bit dumb, yes, but he's sick of no one wanting to help him, which proves my point that he's still on top.
The only two guys who are faster than him are Greipel and Kittel at the moment, which is faaaar from calling him a bad sprinter, saying that he lost alot of speed and stupid things like that.
All these 2nd 4th 5th places are good for the green jersey classification but else they dont mean anything. It's stage wins that count. I said hes a jack of all trades master of none. On Stage 2 he also got beat by Kwiatkowski and van Avermaet in the sprint. With Cav and Modolo out, Démare being poor and Greipel being lost for 5 stages it was very easy to get 4th place on a stage. I'm not saying he has lost a shitload of speed and is very slow but he was a guy who 2 years ago beat Greipel in a long straight drag race, the 2012 Greipel who was in great shape back then and is now scrambling for 4th. That's a definite drop of speed.
You are real moron. If somebody from OPQS was top 5 in first seven stages to start the Tour, we would be all bathing here in your semen
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