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cactus-jack
I thought cycling in the Netherlands didn't need good TdF-results in order to be noticed?
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SSJ2Luigi
cactus-jack wrote:
I thought cycling in the Netherlands didn't need good TdF-results in order to be noticed?

they only needs TdF-results in order to get noticed by the big public
 
Jesleyh
Yeah. It's something like this(random numbers though):
200,000 notice every nice Dutch result, 1,000,000 every nice Dutch result in the big races, 5,000,000 in the TdF
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YvesStevens
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Yes.
But still, it has done a lot here. There was a lot of attention for them. Or do you disagree about that?

well no great maketing time for Belkin but since it was massively overrated I don't care too much



Well basicly it was the best time for Belkin if you look at marketing. They just started to sponsor and the riders showed themselve. Most people in the Netherlands only knew about a new sponsor when they saw it in the TdF, in the Netherlands a lot of people watch the TdF but not a lot watch cycling. And yes it is massively overrated, but that's with everything in the Netherlands, we love sports and we love to support our teams, once a dutchman does something good or performs well then it's like everyone feels united and supports that person or team. Sporting has a great influence on the Netherlands, and especially the big tournaments like the WC in Football, Wimbledeon with Tennis, Olympic games. And TdF for cycling.

So more less 200.000 for races like the ZLM Tour, 500.000 Eneco, 2.000.000 AMG, pretty much 5.000.000 Giro/ Vuelta and us much as 10.000.000 TdF, but that's not watching all stages but following the GC (These results really depend on dutch riders performing well, in 2012 it was like 7.500.000)
Edited by YvesStevens on 14-03-2014 19:35
 
cactus-jack
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah. It's something like this(random numbers though):
200,000 notice every nice Dutch result, 1,000,000 every nice Dutch result in the big races, 5,000,000 in the TdF


Why do I have this feeling that cycling in the Netherlands is something to just below football? I mean that as an exxageration, of course, but you get my point.
Edited by cactus-jack on 14-03-2014 19:37
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YvesStevens
cactus-jack wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah. It's something like this(random numbers though):
200,000 notice every nice Dutch result, 1,000,000 every nice Dutch result in the big races, 5,000,000 in the TdF


Why do I have this feeling that cycling in the Netherlands is something to just below football? I mean that as an exxageration, of course, but you get my point.


To be honest I can't really understand your question, sorry. But the most popular sport in NL is Football for sure. I cycle U16 CAT and most boys I cycle with a lot of them played football before cycling. So the most popular sports to perform are

1. Football
2. Fitness
3. Hockey

But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts

Probably the main reason for this is that cycling is expensive and it's not really something children of e.g. 10 years are thinking about. They say football because that's what most of their friends do. There are ofcourse some children who already cycle at young age but you can clearly see that after 13 years the categories increase in size because children don't want to sport what their friends do but what they like.
 
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YvesStevens wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah. It's something like this(random numbers though):
200,000 notice every nice Dutch result, 1,000,000 every nice Dutch result in the big races, 5,000,000 in the TdF


Why do I have this feeling that cycling in the Netherlands is something to just below football? I mean that as an exxageration, of course, but you get my point.


To be honest I can't really understand your question, sorry. But the most popular sport in NL is Football for sure. I cycle U16 CAT and most boys I cycle with a lot of them played football before cycling. So the most popular sports to perform are

1. Football
2. Fitness
3. Hockey

But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts

Probably the main reason for this is that cycling is expensive and it's not really something children of e.g. 10 years are thinking about. They say football because that's what most of their friends do. There are ofcourse some children who already cycle at young age but you can clearly see that after 13 years the categories increase in size because children don't want to sport what their friends do but what they like.

Agreed.
Though you could add Ice Skating in both Top 3s as well. But of course, that's seasonal, so I understand why it's not in the Top 3s(whether you made the Top 3 or you have it from a source doesn't matter then).
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YvesStevens
Jesleyh wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah. It's something like this(random numbers though):
200,000 notice every nice Dutch result, 1,000,000 every nice Dutch result in the big races, 5,000,000 in the TdF


Why do I have this feeling that cycling in the Netherlands is something to just below football? I mean that as an exxageration, of course, but you get my point.


To be honest I can't really understand your question, sorry. But the most popular sport in NL is Football for sure. I cycle U16 CAT and most boys I cycle with a lot of them played football before cycling. So the most popular sports to perform are

1. Football
2. Fitness
3. Hockey

But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts

Probably the main reason for this is that cycling is expensive and it's not really something children of e.g. 10 years are thinking about. They say football because that's what most of their friends do. There are ofcourse some children who already cycle at young age but you can clearly see that after 13 years the categories increase in size because children don't want to sport what their friends do but what they like.

Agreed.
Though you could add Ice Skating in both Top 3s as well. But of course, that's seasonal, so I understand why it's not in the Top 3s(whether you made the Top 3 or you have it from a source doesn't matter then).


Ye it's also very popular but you can definately see that its popularity with children is shrinking and it's a seasonal sport so that's why it isn't in the top3 but you guessed that already Wink
 
fosforgasXIII
YvesStevens wrote:
But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts


Who in hell watches darts?
 
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Darts are very exciting to watch mate Wink
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts


Who in hell watches darts?


I do. Rolling Eyes
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YvesStevens
fosforgasXIII wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts


Who in hell watches darts?


Have you ever EVER EVER Watched a hall where they play the darts, its filled with a lot of people Grin. And the world championships are always watched with about 1 million people in the netherlands and a lot of us follow the premier league
 
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I seriously was't aware this is thing. To me darts is a café sport, but apparently it's quite popular. A whole new world opens for me.
 
dienblad
fosforgasXIII wrote:
I seriously was't aware this is thing. To me darts is a café sport, but apparently it's quite popular. A whole new world opens for me.


Well, most people (also in the Netherlands) are beer drinking, obese people. So they like darts. Obvious.
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dienblad
fosforgasXIII wrote:
I seriously was't aware this is thing. To me darts is a café sport, but apparently it's quite popular. A whole new world opens for me.


Well, most people (also in the Netherlands) are beer drinking, obese people. So they like darts. Obvious.
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Selwink
For me to watch it's

1. Cycling






2. Rugby
3. Darts

And no, I don't drink anything with alcohol in it
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YvesStevens
dienblad wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
I seriously was't aware this is thing. To me darts is a café sport, but apparently it's quite popular. A whole new world opens for me.


Well, most people (also in the Netherlands) are beer drinking, obese people. So they like darts. Obvious.



I'm not fat and I like to watch darts Grin (I also don't drink beer)
 
SSJ2Luigi
fosforgasXIII wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
But to watch it is

1. Football
2. Cycling
3. Tennis/Darts


Who in hell watches darts?

usually not many people but since we got a dutch world champion it got a mass buff in populairty (like always when the dutch win something)
 
nacho63
Selwink wrote:
For me to watch it's

1. Cycling






2. Rugby
3. Darts

And no, I don't drink anything with alcohol in it


I went on a rugby tour to the Netherlands last year and played two teams that was pretty fun. Why are you guys so big?
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