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Where the hell is the next update?
Schleck96
This is why buying PCM annoys me as hell. I bought this fuckin' game 3 MONTHS AGO AND I CAN'T PLAY A GODDAMN CAREER!! FUCKING SHIT!!
 
aas169
I've got to say I''m pretty shocked by the fact that they won't even bother to fix the resistance stat, I mean don't I, as a paying costumer, not have the right to get a fully working game. I mean if they at least tried that would be a consilation, but this just seems like: "Fuck the people who bought this we've already got their money anyway"
 
admirschleck
I am going to find pirate version of 2011 or to buy it (somehow i wanted few days ago, but had some problems) , or going to reinstall 2012 version, since this is awful.

Bad job this time Cyanide, bad job.
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Lachi
Pirating games is bad. No matter how you put it, it is just bad.
Even if somebody else is bad, why should it allow you to be bad too?

And regarding the RES stat:
Cyanide tested it and it is not broken. It might be lower than previous games but it was done on purpose. They cannot raise the effect of that stat without re-programming the whole AI.

That said, I too am disappointed one more time. It seems they just cannot get it right. If they don't fix all the bugs which have been reported, at least they could keep track of them somewhere public so that:
1. we know that they are aware of it
2. they are forced to fix it eventually
3. they can post work-arounds for the time between
 
Kaimelar
Lachi wrote:
And regarding the RES stat:
Cyanide tested it and it is not broken. It might be lower than previous games but it was done on purpose.


Lachi do you believe in everything what Cyanide says?
RES may work but with same effect for all riders with no difference between 50-70-85 RES otherwise people or Cyanide could show some proof about the differences yet they don't, while several player tested and said RES 50-70-85 has no differences. I wouldn't even be surprised if Cyanide forgets to turn off daily form for their testings if they do anyRolling Eyes

Edit: And if it worked even with lower effects they would just say it works and leave it like that and not bother to 'fix' it like they do with the Green bar effect
11 days ago Izno posted what bugs they fixed already and whats their priorities, RES was there as critical bug 'no effect during 3D' and now they change the story
Edited by Kaimelar on 17-09-2013 21:44
 
fabio10
Lachi wrote:
Pirating games is bad. No matter how you put it, it is just bad.
Even if somebody else is bad, why should it allow you to be bad too?


Piracy is the best way to test the games when they are released, especially PCM, since Cyanide does ALWAYS a bad job on making a decent playable game in the release date. When the last patch comes out and only if it is a decent playable game, then i agree buying the game. Before, i would reccomend everyone to download it and test the game.
 
Failured
fabio10 wrote:
Lachi wrote:
Pirating games is bad. No matter how you put it, it is just bad.
Even if somebody else is bad, why should it allow you to be bad too?


Piracy is the best way to test the games when they are released, especially PCM, since Cyanide does ALWAYS a bad job on making a decent playable game in the release date. When the last patch comes out and only if it is a decent playable game, then i agree buying the game. Before, i would reccomend everyone to download it and test the game.

Wait you recommend people to pirate the game before buying it? What's to say they don't just stay at the pirated version? I know the game has it's flaws but that will never change if people don't support Cyanide by paying the price.
 
fabio10
Failured wrote:
Wait you recommend people to pirate the game before buying it? What's to say they don't just stay at the pirated version? I know the game has it's flaws but that will never change if people don't support Cyanide by paying the price.


Did you saw what the music industry is making now? And it's more easy to copy a CD than create a crack. And they're actually earning more money by streaming their CD's for free for some days.
Edited by fabio10 on 17-09-2013 22:14
 
CrueTrue
It's not very clever to announce that you're pirating the game on a fan forum. So if I were you, I'd stop now Wink
 
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fabio10
CrueTrue wrote:
It's not very clever to announce that you're pirating the game on a fan forum. So if I were you, I'd stop now Wink


I didn't needed to pirate the game this year, neither the last one, i have some good friends who can share a code with me. And i would say everything i just said before, it's my opinion and it won't never change. Publishers need money to create games but don't ever forget, people need it too to buy one, but first in the preferences comes food instead of buggy games.
 
Schleck96
^In case you missed it, it's not about your opinion, it's only because you will be banned if you don't stop.
 
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ShortsNL
Being someone who thinks Intellectual Property is a lie, I think there needs to be room for discussing piracy, as well as how a shitty unfinished product might lead people to do it.

As long as we're not facilitating piracy of PCM by providing guides, tips, and how to's, or sharing things directly through the PCM.Daily forums, I really don't see the problem.

 
Avin Wargunnson
ShortsNL wrote:
Being someone who thinks Intellectual Property is a lie, I think there needs to be room for discussing piracy, as well as how a shitty unfinished product might lead people to do it.

As long as we're not facilitating piracy of PCM by providing guides, tips, and how to's, or sharing things directly through the PCM.Daily forums, I really don't see the problem.


Spoiler
I agree, just say that pirating is bad, is a bit blind. It is a nice protection against gaming industry doing what they want, beacuse you have almost no rights after you bought the game, which turns out to be half-done, laws are not protecting you enough.

I have no problem with a)try the game, you like it?buy it legally after that b)try it, dont like it at all,unistall it and never come back.

Because there are not much demo versions in these days and many games tend to be released half done, which is unfortunately case of several last versions of PCM too.

But supporting the developer is very important, but again, if their product is worth it. And how are you supposed to know it before buying? Even more, when majority the PR are blatant lies.



Anyway not fixing the unfunctional stat is quite shocking, do they just now know that it is so hard coded they can change it? Or more likely, they knew all the way and decided to lie and wait instead. Thanks to community, it was discovered, so they dont know what to do now. They will just make it disappear and soon will promise lot more for the next edition.

At least they mentioned several nice fixes and additions, but i believe these should be in former release anyway. Like functional reset button.
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MartijnVDD
Will Cyanide release a list with new bugs that will be included in the patch?
 
Avin Wargunnson
MartijnVDD wrote:
Will Cyanide release a list with new bugs that will be included in the patch?

Nope, too long to be posted.
I'll be back
 
atlanta
Guys I thought this be ok to post in this thread instead of making new post. I dw to sound a noob but can someone who probably knows quite abit tell us weather they think the patch and DB has any chance of being realeased over wkend? As I really want to play a carear. THANKS.
 
thechudude
Im soorry but what does the RES stat do?
 
Bjartne
Pirating is equal to stealing, no matter how you put it. You can't just walk into a mall and take whatever you like, (use it, eat it or whatever) and then say:

"Naaah, it wasn't as good as I hoped for, so I'll just drop paying you."

I have eaten a lot of mediocre pizzas and I have bought clothes that I'm not feeling comfortable in. That doesn't give me any right of stealing the next hundred pizzas and sweathers and only pay for the two-three that I really liked.

That's just not how it works.
Edited by Bjartne on 20-09-2013 04:16
 
Jesleyh
thechudude wrote:
Im soorry but what does the RES stat do?

It's supposed to control the yellow bar, but now it does nothing/barely nothing...

Also, @Atlanta
Cyanide said 'within a week' a few days ago, so, at any moment...
The PCMdaily DB will be lauched a few days after, I suppose.
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Izno has posted this september 17th

The objective is get the patch out this week or at the beginning of the next one.

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