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| mb2612 |
Posted on 31-05-2013 22:18
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Another flat stage with danger avoided, that's good.
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Posted on 01-06-2013 10:04
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Great TT from Uran, he is a decent chrono man as evidenced by some good World TT performances in the past but beating Tenorio, Plaza and Posthuma is very good indeed. A shame he dropped time before but I suspect this is why he managed such a god time starting in favourable conditions.
The next four stages will be very interesting. Schleck, LLS and Ricco need to hang on at Sierra Nevada and then bring their hilly strength to the table. Contador I would say needs to attack, perhaps Machado and Nibali too on Stage 6 to establish how string this Santander team is.
For SRB it is likely to be spectator time.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 01-06-2013 10:22
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Bit disappointed with Martin after my investment in his TT ability; to be beaten by Oyarzun is not good. Hopefully the mountains are more successful. |
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| Rin |
Posted on 01-06-2013 10:59
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So far a bananas Vuelta, looking forward to the next stage
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Posted on 01-06-2013 12:48
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Can't really be unhappy with that. Rolland in a nice showing here to get me a little slice of the pointscake.
Contador worse than Nibali isn't surprising, hopefully he can overtake him already on the next stage. 1 minute down on Tenorio, in leaders jersey, is difficult though. Had hoped for Posthuma to take it, or Plaza to put up some very interesting stuff, but he didn't.
Good stage.
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Posted on 01-06-2013 13:42
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This! Totally this! I really enjoyed the report, big thanks, Count. And what a great ride by Uran, brilliant. It seems like that he is for now totally back in the contention and that's maybe even better info for me that winning of the stage. What a time trial that was from him. Fantastic news for me. And really solid ride from Nepomnyachsniy as well, he will be a really useful rider in the next season, maybe even a leader in some races. 
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 01-06-2013 14:02
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Another great TT report Count, thank you for that.
And another interesting day, with a nice shuffle of the GC board. It's nice to see guys like Uran, who've previously lost time, regaining terrain. Inversely others like Eastman, Rujano and Duarte are constantly losing time and will thank the possibility of reverting that in the forthcoming mountains.
On our side things are going great. Plaza is now on the top5 and almost everyone else is outside the top100, which hopefully will mean more breakaway time for us.
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 01-06-2013 15:11
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Well its nice that Uran won. Tenorio is starting to walk away with it, but Nibali is in good position for a podium.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 01-06-2013 15:55
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I'm in the lead, which is good, but a minute won't be enough to contador
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-06-2013 16:00
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mb2612 wrote:
I'm in the lead, which is good, but a minute won't be enough to contador
I think it will be plenty. Looking at the Giro Madrazo wasn't really able to open up huge gaps to Phinney, and Madrazo vs. Phinney is a much bigger gap than Tenorio vs. Contador stat wise.
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| ember |
Posted on 01-06-2013 20:53
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Smowz wrote:
For SRB it is likely to be spectator time.
Rumour has it we've brought chairs and tables to enjoy the peloton on the last climb. Do you bring chips?
Tenorio has brought himself in the perfect position going into the mountains. It will be very interesting to see if any is strong enough to gain valuable time on him.
I can only hope we participate in the breakaway and thus get some encouraging messages from our radios in the camping chairs 
And we'll need Heineken and Levi4life for the beers.
And SN is absolutely right about what he said after the prologue regarding your time trial reports, CountArach. This was another excellent and enjoyable report!
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Posted on 02-06-2013 07:22
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Quite the spectacle and a nice opening mountain stage if you ask me. The brutal war of attrition on the slopes of a climb is always fun viewing and I was captured by that. Thank you Count.
First SRB win the battle of the best of the worst:
| 78 | Artem Topchanyuk | Aker - MOT | + 15'00 |
| 97 | George Bennett | Simply Red Bull | + 16'17 |
Happy enough the team are avoiding the very back of the field - there are a number of short stages and I don't want time limit eliminations (though pcm12 doesn't seem to have a lot of these in stage races). Bit concerned that we are not able to quite make the big breakaway, but no problems in these stages where breaks are not going to get any real reward.
At the top obviously Tenorio was outstanding, he couldn't win the TT's which may have been a touch disappointing but the confidence of the leaders jersey and a strong team performance really told there. That was a perhaps a bit of a blow to Contador's hopes of destroying Tenorio in the mountains, but lets not get ahead of ourselves that was a good stage for Santander to control.
Below that on GC, I am slightly surprised to see Valverde hanging on with what I thought were better climbers. Shouldn't discount a former winner of course. Rujano and Uran are well and truly back in the picture as well. Machado and Nibili could well be battling for that third podium spot, though difficult to see at this stage where Machado is going to make TT time lost up.
Ricco, Schleck, LLS and Dan Martin really need to do something in the next three 'hilly' stages. Tomorrows looks the most decisive, though is probably as much mountainous as hills. Still they should be able to combine those skills to do something as it doesn't look particularly great on the real mountain stages.
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Posted on 02-06-2013 08:29
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I liked this stage, gameplay reminds me of mountain-stages I've seen before. Riders trying to attack while other reel them in all the time, then for a small gap to be created between the winner and the lead-group in the last km
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Posted on 02-06-2013 09:10
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Congrats to Santander and Tenorio. That probably seals all doubts about him being a worse climber than Contador.
Tenorio could take every jersey from this race. He will win more stages, and a lot of times in the top 10 and also being more often in the front on the mountains then he might take the mountains jersey aswell. The U25 jersey is a given.
Contador in 4th is fine, but losing valuable time to Machado is a bit of a bummer. Also Nibali needs to be distanced now.
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Posted on 02-06-2013 09:55
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I'm really enjoying the race so far. Happy to see Caruso winning a stage and leading the race to make up for Wiggle's poor Giro.
Also, very funny to see Posthuma going into the breakaway when sitting 2nd overall. I don't think I've ever seen that before in PCM. And even funnier that he missed bonus seconds on both intermediates and threw away the race lead. 
Tenorio looks solid so far, and he'll be even better now that he has the race lead. Surprising to see Nibali doing so well whereas the on paper similarly strong Ricco was a big letdown once again.
And finally, super reports, Count!
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Posted on 02-06-2013 10:11
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Tenorio should have the race is his bag now.
Edited by Miguel98 on 02-06-2013 10:14
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 02-06-2013 10:47
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SotD wrote:
Congrats to Santander and Tenorio. That probably seals all doubts about him being a worse climber than Contador.
Tenorio could take every jersey from this race. He will win more stages, and a lot of times in the top 10 and also being more often in the front on the mountains then he might take the mountains jersey aswell. The U25 jersey is a given.
Contador in 4th is fine, but losing valuable time to Machado is a bit of a bummer. Also Nibali needs to be distanced now.
Thanks, and thanks Count for an excellent report. This was an exellent stage for us, hopefully Tenorio can keep it up when the going gets harder over the next two weeks.
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Posted on 02-06-2013 14:06
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Hmm... Good to see Bugge try for the breakaway. That gives some hope that he'll be able to fight for the mountain jersey the coming stages. Though, Tenorio or any other GC favourite will be tough, if not impossible, to beat with so many big mountains coming close to the finish of different stages.
But at least we're trying
I enjoyed the battle between the big guns, and it was a promising finish being the first mountain stage. A lot tougher stages will come, then riders will be all over the mountains if this racing continues. Thanks for the report as well, CountArach.
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First SRB win the battle of the best of the worst:
| 78 | Artem Topchanyuk | Aker - MOT | + 15'00 |
| 97 | George Bennett | Simply Red Bull | + 16'17 |
If that's THE battle, it's a lot more worrying that we're about 12'30 ahead of your team in the team classification. It could be hard to get those minutes back |
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Posted on 02-06-2013 14:55
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That worked great as a first mountain stage. It's good that the riders could open gaps, I was afraid they wouldn't. Congrats mb things seem to be shaping up well for Tenorio.
Too bad Plaza couldn't hang on for a little longer. Losing 2min in the first mountain stage isn't ideal. His GC position looks too fragile already unfortunately, but that was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Posted on 02-06-2013 16:18
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Good stage for Nerz, hey, even Tenorio followed your attack!
Somewhere around 20th where I expected.
Santander looking to annihilate the opposition and making a strong bid for survival.
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