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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-11-2007 21:58
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Caisse d'Epargne also announced that Australian Neil Stephens will be the team's new sport director after having been less involved with cycling this season. Stephens has been living in the Basque country for years and brought some well-known Australian riders to Europe, like brothers Allan and Scott Davis, or Aaron Kemps. Stephens competed from 1985 to 1998, amongst others in the team ONCE. Later, he became directeur sportif at Liberty Seguros before working as part-time consultant for the Australian cycling federation.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-11-2007 22:05
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 It's so damn obvious. |
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Posted on 08-11-2007 22:10
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CrueTrue wrote:
It's so damn obvious.
don't knock ONCE. some very solid, upstanding, clean riders rode there...like Laurent Jalabert and Johan Bruyneel.
Bruyneel even broke the record for fastest average speed in a Tour stage ALONE at the height of the doping age. surely, that can only mean he is a hero.
also, don't knock Liberty, or as they are now called "Astana". or as they were called a few years ago, "ONCE". everyone knows they've been treated unfairly and are nothing but upstanding citizens
same goes for Caisse. the fact that every suspicious spanish-speaking rider signs for Caisse and that a third of the team rode for Kelme (AKA the Astana of the early 2000s) is irrelevant.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-11-2007 08:06
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issoisso wrote:
I was reading the full Jaksche interview, and whether he's lying or telling the truth is irrelevant, because I just want to say I think this sums up the local mentality perfectly. a quote by Jaksche:
In Spain, you could tape EPO syringes to your windshield and no one would stop you
To me the quote of the year remains that Spanish sports director words : "Yes, we dope all our riders, and so what ? Is there anything wrong with that ?".
You're right with what you mentionned in your previous messages though. People should just stop being jealous of Spanish' achievements, instead they should focus more on training. 8) |
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Posted on 09-11-2007 08:39
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Rasmus Damsgaard, the maker of CSC's anti-doping programme, says that the blood values he presented yesterday indicates use of blood doping. According to Damsgaard, it's very unusual that the haemoglobin level increase during a stage race like Tour de France.
Michael Rasmussen's haemoglobin level started at 13.3 in London, 12 days later it had increased to 14.2, and on the rest day it increased to 14.4.
Damsgaard says that the haemoglobin level is supposed to decrease. As an example, he uses the CSC-riders - their levels fell by 12 to 20 % which is normal, he says. That the value increases is a clear indication of blood doping, and if iit was up to Damsgaard, any increase in the haemoglobin level should give a suspension. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-11-2007 10:21
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*insert random joke about the chicken chocking when he hears that*
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-11-2007 10:58
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Why are you all so cynical and don't want to face the most simple explanation on earth :
He trained that hard, all season long, before the TDF, that the race became like a rest for him, so his hemoglobin numbers increased again during those 3 weeks.
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Posted on 09-11-2007 11:59
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Lol, but really that would be bad news, if Rasmussen used blood doping in the Tour he sure as hell didn't do all that alone. Something fishy is going on at Rabobank |
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:42
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Ruben wrote:
Lol, but really that would be bad news, if Rasmussen used blood doping in the Tour he sure as hell didn't do all that alone. Something fishy is going on at Rabobank
possibly although rasmussen was off in the "mountains" by himself so perhaps its more of a solo effort
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:44
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Maybe he had some help from the Astana team then... |
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:46
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Ruben wrote:
Maybe he had some help from the Astana team then...
theres probably some shrivelled old guy in Kazakhstan somewhere that theyve sucked all the blood out of...
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:47
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rodda wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Lol, but really that would be bad news, if Rasmussen used blood doping in the Tour he sure as hell didn't do all that alone. Something fishy is going on at Rabobank
possibly although rasmussen was off in the "mountains" by himself so perhaps its more of a solo effort The fact that his hemoglobin increased all through Le Tour shows that he had a refuel (or many actually) during the race.
During such a stage race, you destroy more red cells (hemoglobin) than you produce, so your amount of hemoglobin should decrease all race long, there's no way it can increase, unless... |
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:48
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exactly what Aquarius said.
and if what Jaksche has been saying is true, there's a lot of individuals out there with private networks set up for blood doping. meaning it's not necessarily Rabobank.
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:48
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perhaps he had a bone marrow transplant
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:50
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I'm more inclined to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster than in Rasmussen's innocence. then again, that's been the case for some time now.
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:51
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issoisso wrote:
I'm more inclined to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster than in Rasmussen's innocence. then again, that's been the case for some time now.
damn and there i was thinking the flying spaghetti monster was real 
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Posted on 09-11-2007 12:58
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sarcasm aside, the monster and the associated text is one of the most brilliant religious satires I've ever seen. (and definitely the most popular throughout the world)
why? because it's extremely stupid and illogical, and it's formulated in such a way that when Christians read it they immediately realize that it's exactly like their own religion (and most others). and when they realize that, they become angry and confused.
which is what I love 
Edited by issoisso on 09-11-2007 12:59
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-11-2007 13:00
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Where can I read more about that Spaghetti monster ?  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-11-2007 13:01
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Aquarius, read these IN ORDER:
https://www.venganza.org/about/open-le...en-letter/
https://www.venganza.org/about/open-le...discussion
https://www.venganza.org/about/open-le.../responses
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Posted on 09-11-2007 13:03
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wow.
no in all seriousness that is FANTASTIC
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