Tour Down Under Discussion
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rjc_43 |
Posted on 06-08-2011 22:29
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Posted on 06-08-2011 23:13
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It was heard that there was a loud dispute between the Bianchi manager and Ciolek...
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jt1109 |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:27
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anyone know or have the updated team and individual rankings if not what's the points system to work them out? |
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mb2612 |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:29
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jt1109 wrote:
anyone know or have the updated team and individual rankings if not what's the points system to work them out?
SN updates them regularly, most recently in the Tacharia thread
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roturn |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:29
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I hope you don`t regret to keep him, when I asked in the transfer time.
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kumazan |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:30
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jt1109 wrote:
anyone know or have the updated team and individual rankings if not what's the points system to work them out?
You can find the ranking system here:
https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthr...d_id=16868
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:31
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jt1109 wrote:
anyone know or have the updated team and individual rankings if not what's the points system to work them out?
Patience I have a nice Excel file that works it all out for me, I just need to plug in the positions. Wont be long
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Posted on 06-08-2011 23:32
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there are some rumours that Ciolek was seen near green bus shortly after that dispute...
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jt1109 |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
anyone know or have the updated team and individual rankings if not what's the points system to work them out?
Patience I have a nice Excel file that works it all out for me, I just need to plug in the positions. Wont be long
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cio93 |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:35
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The provisional overall team classification (without stage 1):
Place | Team | Points | 1. | Jayco-Red Bull | 212 | 2. | Team Puma-SAP | 214 | 3. | Hollister | 254 | 4. | Meiji-Fuji | 310 | 5. | Venchi | 332 | 6. | Proximus-Trek | 381 |
Close call!
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:58
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We'll see if we can look in the savegame file to clarify that. Until then The top 5 riders from JRB and Puma are awarded 2 points each - so one team will be owed 5 point altogether.
First up, TDU points tally:
1 | Allan | Davis | AUS | Hollister Pro Cycling | 222 | 2 | Daryl | Impey | SAF | Jayco - Red Bull | 127 | 3 | Enrico | Gasparotto | ITA | Team Puma - SAP | 103 | 4 | Sergio | Marinangeli | ITA | Team Venchi ProCycling | 97 | 5 | Simon | Gerrans | AUS | Jayco - Red Bull | 80 | 6 | Mitch | Docker | AUS | Cyclevox | 62 | 7 | Gerald | Ciolek | GER | Team Bianchi | 62 | 8 | Alessandro | Proni | ITA | Hollister Pro Cycling | 46 | 9 | Cédric | Pineau | FRA | Focused Cycling | 40 | 10 | Sébastien | Minard | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 40 | 11 | Giovanni | Visconti | ITA | UniCredit | 36 | 12 | Tosh | Van der Sande | BEL | UniCredit | 32 | 13 | Oscar | Freire | ESP | Koppert Cycling Team | 29 | 14 | Mark | Cavendish | GBR | Proximus - Trek | 28 | 15 | Michael | Matthews | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 20 | 16 | Mickaël | Delage | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 19 | 17 | Peter | Sagan | SVK | Team Venchi ProCycling | 17 | 18 | Taiji | Nishitani | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 16 | 19 | Manuele | Mori | ITA | Jayco - Red Bull | 15 | 20 | Blaise | Sonnery | FRA | Jayco - Red Bull | 13 | 21 | Yukiya | Arashiro | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 12 | 22 | William | Ford | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 9 | 23 | Hassen | Ben Nasser | TUN | Proximus - Trek | 8 | 24 | Adam | Hansen | AUS | Jayco - Red Bull | 7 | 25 | Jack | Bobridge | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 7 | 26 | Bjorn | Selander | USA | Hollister Pro Cycling | 6 | 27 | Kenny | Van Hummel | NED | Saab-Scania | 6 | 28 | Lars | Croket | BEL | Team Puma - SAP | 6 | 29 | Mathieu | Drujon | FRA | Focused Cycling | 5 | 30 | Hans | Dekkers | NED | Koppert Cycling Team | 5 | 31 | Ruslan | Sambris | MOL | Hollister Pro Cycling | 4 | 32 | Matthew | Lloyd | AUS | Meiji - Fuji | 4 | 33 | Haijun | Ma | CHN | Proximus - Trek | 4 | 34 | Alejandro | Borrajo | ARG | UniCredit | 4 | 35 | Travis | Meyer | AUS | Focused Cycling | 3 | 36 | Sung Baek | Park | KOR | Meiji - Fuji | 3 | 37 | Dainius | Kairelis | LTU | Emu Export | 2 | 38 | Staf | Scheirlinckx | BEL | Hollister Pro Cycling | 2 | 39 | Matteo | Priamo | ITA | Jayco - Red Bull | 2 | 40 | Baden | Cooke | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 2 | 41 | Mario | Vogt | GER | Team Puma - SAP | 2 | 42 | Olivier | Le Gac | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 2 | 43 | Ole | Haavardsholm | NOR | Team Venchi ProCycling | 2 | 44 | Toms | Skujins | LAT | Focused Cycling | 1 | 45 | Yoshimitsu | Hiratsuka | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 1 | 46 | Shaun | Lewis | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 1 | 47 | Anders | Lund | DEN | Saab-Scania | 1 |
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Posted on 07-08-2011 00:08
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The power of Allan Davis pushes Hollister up to 2nd, closing right in on Aker Solutions. Jayco - Red Bull, possibly this year's Pendleton Twicer's? Strong team scoring puts them up into 3rd, ahead of Team Bianchi. Ciolek gave them a stage win, but did he cost them more points than he gave them? Team Puma - SAP are also on the up, to 5th, proving that Bennati wont be their only source of points for sure.
1 | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 469 | 2 | Hollister Pro Cycling | 457 | 3 | Jayco - Red Bull | 359 | 4 | Team Bianchi | 344 | 5 | Team Puma - SAP | 275 | 6 | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 265 | 7 | Team WWE | 237 | 8 | Team CSC-Orbea | 221 | 9 | Rapha Condor - Qhubeka | 196 | 10 | VolksWagen - Siemens | 185 | 11 | Emu Export | 178 | 12 | Cyclevox | 132 | 13 | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 131 | 14 | Team Venchi ProCycling | 116 | 15 | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 107 | 16 | Pokerstars.com | 100 | 17 | Oz Cycling Project | 100 | 18 | Cerne | 93 | 19 | Team Bpost | 83 | 20 | UniCredit | 72 | 21 | Ferrari - ERG | 50 | 22 | Focused Cycling | 49 | 23 | T.CS Bank - OJSC Rosneft | 43 | 24 | Meiji - Fuji | 43 | 25 | Proximus - Trek | 40 | 26 | Koppert Cycling Team | 39 | 27 | Team Trilux - Falke | 26 | 28 | Saab-Scania | 18 |
Hollister may not be the leading team, but Davis is the leading rider. If he keeps up this form, beyond his homeland, sprinting against him won't be much fun this year. The very consistent Daryl Impey climbs to 5th, with Ciolek and Gasparotto also featuring in the Top 10.
1 | Allan | Davis | AUS | Hollister Pro Cycling | 362 | 2 | Jose | Alarcon | VEN | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 301 | 3 | Francesco | Ginanni | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 140 | 4 | Julián | Rodas | COL | Team CSC-Orbea | 136 | 5 | Daryl | Impey | SAF | Jayco - Red Bull | 132 | 6 | Gerald | Ciolek | GER | Team Bianchi | 123 | 7 | Enrico | Gasparotto | ITA | Team Puma - SAP | 103 | 8 | Carlos | Castaño | ESP | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 102 | 9 | Dimitri | Claeys | BEL | Team Bianchi | 98 | 10 | Daniele | Bennati | ITA | Team Puma - SAP | 98 | 11 | Sergio | Marinangeli | ITA | Team Venchi ProCycling | 97 | 12 | Vadim | Ratiy | UKR | VolksWagen - Siemens | 91 | 13 | Simon | Gerrans | AUS | Jayco - Red Bull | 90 | 14 | Magno | Nazaret | BRA | Emu Export | 83 | 15 | Graeme | Brown | AUS | Jayco - Red Bull | 82 | 16 | Chris | Froome | GBR | Rapha Condor - Qhubeka | 82 | 17 | Bruno | Santos | POR | Cerne | 71 | 18 | Tomas | Vaitkus | LTU | Cyclevox | 70 | 19 | Cyril | Gautier | FRA | Team Bpost | 70 | 20 | Edwin | Parra Bustamante | COL | Team CSC-Orbea | 68 |
Spoiler 21 | Mitch | Docker | AUS | Cyclevox | 62 | 22 | Jonathan | Bellis | GBR | Rapha Condor - Qhubeka | 61 | 23 | Jonas Aaen | Jørgensen | DEN | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 59 | 24 | Matteo | Carrara | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 59 | 25 | Manuel | Lloret | ESP | Team Bianchi | 58 | 26 | Ryan | Eastman | USA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 53 | 27 | Alex | Dowsett | GBR | Rapha Condor - Qhubeka | 53 | 28 | André | Greipel | GER | Team WWE | 53 | 29 | Baden | Cooke | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 47 | 30 | Alessandro | Proni | ITA | Hollister Pro Cycling | 46 | 31 | Aleksandar | Flügel | GER | VolksWagen - Siemens | 45 | 32 | Cédric | Pineau | FRA | Focused Cycling | 40 | 33 | Sébastien | Minard | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 40 | 34 | Przemyslaw | Niemiec | POL | Ferrari - ERG | 40 | 35 | Chris Anker | Sørensen | DEN | Team WWE | 39 | 36 | Erik | Mohs | GER | Pokerstars.com | 38 | 37 | Aleksandr | Kolobnev | RUS | T.CS Bank - OJSC Rosneft | 38 | 38 | Fredrik | Kessiakoff | SWD | Team WWE | 37 | 39 | Giovanni | Visconti | ITA | UniCredit | 36 | 40 | Mikel | Astarloza | ESP | Team WWE | 35 | 41 | Oscar | Freire | ESP | Koppert Cycling Team | 34 | 42 | Tosh | Van der Sande | BEL | UniCredit | 32 | 43 | Wilmer | Vasquez | VEN | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 32 | 44 | Jaume | Rovira | ESP | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 31 | 45 | Oscar | Gatto | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 31 | 46 | Fabio | Sabatini | ITA | VolksWagen - Siemens | 31 | 47 | Mark | Cavendish | GBR | Proximus - Trek | 28 | 48 | Mikayil | Krasnoperov | UKR | Emu Export | 28 | 49 | Saul | Raisin | USA | Emu Export | 28 | 50 | Heinrich | Haussler | GER | Team Trilux - Falke | 26 | 51 | Jérôme | Pineau | FRA | Team WWE | 26 | 52 | Benoît | Sinner | FRA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 24 | 53 | Tyler | Brandt | USA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 23 | 54 | Amets | Txurruka | ESP | Team WWE | 23 | 55 | Manuele | Mori | ITA | Jayco - Red Bull | 22 | 56 | Marcio | Portela | POR | Cerne | 22 | 57 | Martijn | Maaskant | NED | Pokerstars.com | 22 | 58 | Michael | Matthews | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 20 | 59 | Lucas Sebastian | Haedo | ARG | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 20 | 60 | Thomas | Peterson | USA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 20 | 61 | Mickaël | Delage | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 19 | 62 | Geoffroy | Lequatre | FRA | Team Bianchi | 18 | 63 | John-Lee | Augustyn | SAF | Emu Export | 18 | 64 | Peter | Sagan | SVK | Team Venchi ProCycling | 17 | 65 | Taiji | Nishitani | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 16 | 66 | Sérgio | Paulinho | POR | Team WWE | 16 | 67 | Anthony | Roux | FRA | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 15 | 68 | Marco | Guillén | CRC | Pokerstars.com | 15 | 69 | Blaise | Sonnery | FRA | Jayco - Red Bull | 13 | 70 | Yukiya | Arashiro | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 12 | 71 | Frantisek | Rabon | CZE | Team Bianchi | 12 | 72 | VÃctor Hugo | Orozco | COL | Emu Export | 12 | 73 | Hubert | Schwab | SWI | Team Bianchi | 12 | 74 | Maxime | Monfort | BEL | Team Bianchi | 12 | 75 | Marcel | Wyss | SWI | Saab-Scania | 11 | 76 | Jonathon | Clarke | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 11 | 77 | Remberto | Jaramillo | COL | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 10 | 78 | Damian | MartÃnez | CUB | Hollister Pro Cycling | 10 | 79 | John | Degenkolb | GER | Pokerstars.com | 10 | 80 | Manuel | Quinziato | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 10 | 81 | William | Ford | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 9 | 82 | Samuel | Sánchez Gonzalez | ESP | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 9 | 83 | Richard | Ochoa Quintero | VEN | Hollister Pro Cycling | 9 | 84 | Francisco | Colorado | COL | Team CSC-Orbea | 9 | 85 | Adam | Petrie-Armstrong | IRL | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 9 | 86 | Hassen | Ben Nasser | TUN | Proximus - Trek | 8 | 87 | John | Murphy | USA | Hollister Pro Cycling | 8 | 88 | Jelle | Vanendert | BEL | Team Bpost | 8 | 89 | Adam | Hansen | AUS | Jayco - Red Bull | 7 | 90 | Jack | Bobridge | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 7 | 91 | Olivier | Le Gac | FRA | Team Puma - SAP | 7 | 92 | Cadel | Evans | AUS | Emu Export | 7 | 93 | Jack | Bauer | NZL | Meiji - Fuji | 7 | 94 | Moises | Dueñas | ESP | Team CSC-Orbea | 7 | 95 | Bjorn | Selander | USA | Hollister Pro Cycling | 6 | 96 | Kenny | Van Hummel | NED | Saab-Scania | 6 | 97 | Lars | Croket | BEL | Team Puma - SAP | 6 | 98 | Peter | Stetina | USA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 6 | 99 | Paolo | Longo Borghini | ITA | Ferrari - ERG | 6 | 100 | Mikaël | Chérel | FRA | Jayco - Red Bull | 6 | 101 | Mathieu | Drujon | FRA | Focused Cycling | 5 | 102 | Zakkari | Dempster | AUS | Hollister Pro Cycling | 5 | 103 | Hans | Dekkers | NED | Koppert Cycling Team | 5 | 104 | Mark | Renshaw | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 5 | 105 | Piet | Rooijakkers | NED | Team Bianchi | 5 | 106 | JÃri | Hochmann | CZE | Team Bianchi | 5 | 107 | Arnold | Jeannesson | FRA | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 5 | 108 | Pieter | Ghyllebert | BEL | California Giant Berry Farms-Specialized | 5 | 109 | Yasmani | Martinez | CUB | Hollister Pro Cycling | 5 | 110 | Kim | Kirchen | LUX | Jayco - Red Bull | 5 | 111 | David | Boucher | FRA | Pokerstars.com | 5 | 112 | Nick | Ingels | BEL | Pokerstars.com | 5 | 113 | Niki | Terpstra | NED | Pokerstars.com | 5 | 114 | Pavel | Korzh | RUS | T.CS Bank - OJSC Rosneft | 5 | 115 | Johan | Vansummeren | BEL | Team Bpost | 5 | 116 | Leif | Hoste | BEL | Team WWE | 5 | 117 | Gabriele | Bosisio | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 5 | 118 | Matteo | Bono | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 5 | 119 | Nikias | Arndt | GER | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 5 | 120 | Georg | Preidler | AUT | VolksWagen - Siemens | 5 | 121 | Ruslan | Sambris | MOL | Hollister Pro Cycling | 4 | 122 | Matthew | Lloyd | AUS | Meiji - Fuji | 4 | 123 | Haijun | Ma | CHN | Proximus - Trek | 4 | 124 | Alejandro | Borrajo | ARG | UniCredit | 4 | 125 | Daniele | Pietropolli | ITA | Ferrari - ERG | 4 | 126 | Lucas | Schädlich | GER | VolksWagen - Siemens | 4 | 127 | Travis | Meyer | AUS | Focused Cycling | 3 | 128 | Sung Baek | Park | KOR | Meiji - Fuji | 3 | 129 | Jens | Keukeleire | BEL | Team WWE | 3 | 130 | Wen Hao | Li | CHN | VolksWagen - Siemens | 3 | 131 | Dainius | Kairelis | LTU | Emu Export | 2 | 132 | Staf | Scheirlinckx | BEL | Hollister Pro Cycling | 2 | 133 | Matteo | Priamo | ITA | Jayco - Red Bull | 2 | 134 | Mario | Vogt | GER | Team Puma - SAP | 2 | 135 | Ole | Haavardsholm | NOR | Team Venchi ProCycling | 2 | 136 | Egoitz | Murgoitio | ESP | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 2 | 137 | Christian | Müller | GER | VolksWagen - Siemens | 2 | 138 | Jussi | Veikkanen | FIN | VolksWagen - Siemens | 2 | 139 | Kevin | Predatsch | GER | VolksWagen - Siemens | 2 | 140 | Toms | Skujins | LAT | Focused Cycling | 1 | 141 | Yoshimitsu | Hiratsuka | JPN | Meiji - Fuji | 1 | 142 | Shaun | Lewis | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | 1 | 143 | Anders | Lund | DEN | Saab-Scania | 1 | 144 | Lars Petter | Nordhaug | NOR | Aker Solutions - Bergans | 1 | 145 | Andres | Saldarriaga | COL | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 1 | 146 | Andrés Miguel | DÃaz Corrales | COL | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 1 | 147 | Ivan | Santaromita | SWI | Pirelli - Alfa Romeo | 1 | 148 | Klaas | Vantornout | BEL | Team Bianchi | 1 | 149 | Craig | Lewis | USA | Team CSC-Orbea | 1 | 150 | Mattia | Cattaneo | ITA | Vespa - Aprilia - De Rosa | 1 |
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jt1109 |
Posted on 07-08-2011 00:12
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thanks SN next issue of eurosport is up |
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-08-2011 00:48
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cio93 wrote:
The provisional overall team classification (without stage 1):
Place | Team | Points | 1. | Jayco-Red Bull | 212 | 2. | Team Puma-SAP | 214 | 3. | Hollister | 254 | 4. | Meiji-Fuji | 310 | 5. | Venchi | 332 | 6. | Proximus-Trek | 381 |
Close call!
Puma totals from Stage 1: 47
Red Bull totals from Stage 1: 48
Jayco - Red Bull thus won the teams classification, by the narrowest of margins
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ANFreeman |
Posted on 07-08-2011 08:08
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So very close. Still, I should be pleased with second and 6th on GC. Been a pretty successful start for us!
Congrats to Davis and Hollister though, definitely deserved win with their dominance. Congrats to Jayco, Focused and Unicredit for their respective competition wins, too!
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-08-2011 08:12
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Nice Tour Down Under, Davis was a king of sprints there. And strange tactics by Bianchi team, Ciolek is probably not a team rider
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cio93 |
Posted on 07-08-2011 10:18
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Jayco - Red Bull thus won the teams classification, by the narrowest of margins
Not quite.
According to UCI rules, the amount of daily team classification wins determines the winner in the event of a tie. Jayco won 3, Puma 2. A tie would have been enough for Jayco
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viking90 |
Posted on 07-08-2011 12:22
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No success here directly, Wyss hurt before hilly stages, only one top 10 by Van Hummel, but atleast we were in the breaks often...
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Posted on 07-08-2011 13:42
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Absolutely ecstatic with my teams performance, especially with how poor Davis was last year after the Down Under Classic, and with how poor we were at the Veulta a Tachira.
Was looking for a couple of stage wins, which i got, but the GC was a bonus. I knew Davis was good enough to get over Willunga hill, was just lucky that other teams had people they were willing to work for on that stage, so that it stayed together for the sprint.
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tsmoha |
Posted on 07-08-2011 13:48
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Congrats to Hollister and Davis for stage-wins, GC-win and Points-jersey as well!
Quite disappointed about how things went for The Oz: 2nd in KoM with same points as winner, 3rd and 4th in Young-rider.. Baden Cooke with only one good stage.. at least we've been in many breaks with Matthews, Lewis.. and also Bobridge showed some aggressive riding, which I like..
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