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Tour de France 11 Stage 14: Saint-Gaudens > Plateau de Beille 168.5km
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:15
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
apparently evans already switched bikes. He needs the motor?
Yepp, the cutting edge tech. is needed today 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:17
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Can't wait for the final climb. If I had some PCM$ I would have betted them on F. Schleck for the stage win. I actually think he'll do better than Andy this year.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:20
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Can't wait for the final climb. If I had some PCM$ I would have betted them on F. Schleck for the stage win. I actually think he'll do better than Andy this year.
Fine line there  Awesome to see the Schlecks in work, can't wait me neither 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:21
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So is Saxo Bank letting a breakaway containing two LeoTards go? Uhm.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:21
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hillis91 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Apparently, it's not only Rojas complaining about Cavendish. Gilbert complained yesterday that Cavendish was being pulled by his team mates over the small climb before the intermediate sprint so he could contest it.
The same Gilbert who went 1km before the sprint, then complained about that?
The same Gilbert who wants to force Cavendish out the race to win green?
Sorry for not believing him 
That's ok, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And what is wrong with forcing him out of the race?
He he's trying to get him kicked out it's wrong. If he puts his team in front and rides hard on the mountain stages, thats fine.
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:22
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20 riders with 30s ahead.
Gerdemann (LEO), Voigt (LEO), Izagirre (EUS), Mollema (RAB), Sanchez (RAB), Millar (GRM), Di Gregorio (AST), Bouet (ALM), Riblon (ALM), Zandio (SKY), Chavanel (QST), Casar (FDJ), Delage (FDJ), Vichot (FDJ), Quinziazo (BMC), El Fares (COF), Charteau (EUC), Silin (KAT), De Gendt (VCD), Koren (LIQ),
Edited by roturn on 16-07-2011 11:24
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| ember |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:24
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A huge group is up front, around 20 riders, Casar is 1 of 3 from FDJ, Voigt is there, Koren from Liquigas too.
And the peloton has settled down, they are free to go, this will be a dangerous breakaway.
Edit: roturn is the better man, giving all the names According to the graphic, they've got 1,55 to the peloton.
Edited by ember on 16-07-2011 11:25
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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:26
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doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Apparently, it's not only Rojas complaining about Cavendish. Gilbert complained yesterday that Cavendish was being pulled by his team mates over the small climb before the intermediate sprint so he could contest it.
The same Gilbert who went 1km before the sprint, then complained about that?
The same Gilbert who wants to force Cavendish out the race to win green?
Sorry for not believing him
That's ok, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And what is wrong with forcing him out of the race?
He he's trying to get him kicked out it's wrong. If he puts his team in front and rides hard on the mountain stages, thats fine.
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.
I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.
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| Logghje |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:27
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It's Marcato, not De Gendt  Gilbert should have been in the breakaway for the points |
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| alcano |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:28
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Perez Moreno (Eus), Iglinski (Ast), Ventoso (Mov), Pineau (QST), Malori (Lam) in a group between those 20 and the peloton. Again no Saxo rider.
Voigt and Gerdemann refusing to lead in the front group. |
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| Deda |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:29
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@kumazan
Gilbert wouldn't WIN the green then, Cavendish would LOSE it.
Edited by Deda on 16-07-2011 11:29
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:30
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Deda wrote:
@kumazan
Gilbert wouldn't WIN the green then, Cavendish would LOSE it.
Bullshit. Gilbert would have been better at getting over the mountains, and that's part of completing a GT, and therefore winning a jersey.
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| alcano |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:32
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Faria da Costa and Gutierrez (both Mov) joined those 5 (50" behind the leading group). Peloton 3'40" behind. |
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| tyriion |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:45
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ember wrote:
A huge group is up front, around 20 riders, Casar is 1 of 3 from FDJ, Voigt is there, Koren from Liquigas too.
And the peloton has settled down, they are free to go, this will be a dangerous breakaway.
Edit: roturn is the better man, giving all the names According to the graphic, they've got 1,55 to the peloton.
Don't think it will get as much room as yesterdays breakaway. Casar is less then 9 minutes down in gc so Europcar will want to limit the gap.
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| alcano |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:49
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Might be a problem for Voeckler though as his team mates will have to work a lot today, right from the start. |
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| ember |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:51
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tyriion wrote:
ember wrote:
A huge group is up front, around 20 riders, Casar is 1 of 3 from FDJ, Voigt is there, Koren from Liquigas too.
And the peloton has settled down, they are free to go, this will be a dangerous breakaway.
Edit: roturn is the better man, giving all the names According to the graphic, they've got 1,55 to the peloton.
Don't think it will get as much room as yesterdays breakaway. Casar is less then 9 minutes down in gc so Europcar will want to limit the gap.
They already got 4'45, that's more than yesterdays break had at any time before Aubisque I think. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:59
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Please, keep them at a reasonable distance. I don't want a breakaway succeeding on such a nice stage.
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 11:59
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You can't really compare yesterday's stage with today's though. Today there is a mountain top finish and they took it easy in the peleton yesterday after the break was off. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 12:00
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kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Apparently, it's not only Rojas complaining about Cavendish. Gilbert complained yesterday that Cavendish was being pulled by his team mates over the small climb before the intermediate sprint so he could contest it.
The same Gilbert who went 1km before the sprint, then complained about that?
The same Gilbert who wants to force Cavendish out the race to win green?
Sorry for not believing him
That's ok, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And what is wrong with forcing him out of the race?
He he's trying to get him kicked out it's wrong. If he puts his team in front and rides hard on the mountain stages, thats fine.
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.
I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-07-2011 12:02
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Apparently, it's not only Rojas complaining about Cavendish. Gilbert complained yesterday that Cavendish was being pulled by his team mates over the small climb before the intermediate sprint so he could contest it.
The same Gilbert who went 1km before the sprint, then complained about that?
The same Gilbert who wants to force Cavendish out the race to win green?
Sorry for not believing him
That's ok, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And what is wrong with forcing him out of the race?
He he's trying to get him kicked out it's wrong. If he puts his team in front and rides hard on the mountain stages, thats fine.
I just see forcing him outside the time limit as a negative tactic.
Would you not rather see green won on the road as a battle rather than Cavendish being forced to lose the jersey by being eliminated on the mountains.
I'd rather see any rider playing his cards. With this year's system, Cavendish will win the jersey if he isn't Hors Délai in a mountain stage, so if that's what it takes for Gilbert to win the green, he should try.
Not happening.
You never know for sure, but not likely to happen..
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