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| mb2612 |
Posted on 24-01-2011 22:38
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Well mini-Santander, between you you gained 7 points and justified my not signing you in the first place. Anyway, enjoy supporting Tenorio in Avenir, it will be your last outing as professionals.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-01-2011 22:47
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Sven Vandousselleare deservedly takes the individual rankings title, as the only rider to score in all 5 races - he may only have won the time trial in Sachsen Tour, but he was remarkably consistent throughout. Jocelyn Bar, with 2 victories on the trot to end the division, takes 2nd, with Iranian Gilannipoor an impressive 3rd.
| 1 | Sven | Vandousselaere | BEL | Team Pokerstars.com | 86 | | 2 | Jocelyn | Bar | FRA | EL AL - IDF | 73 | | 3 | Abolfazl | Gilanipoor | IRN | Mercedes-Benz | 73 | | 4 | Pier Graziano | Sgrigna | ITA | Bacardi - Colt | 70 | | 5 | Mohd Shahrulnizam | Che Samsudin | MAS | Team Falcon-Husqvarna | 64 | | 6 | Hillary | Kiprotich | KEN | Pendleton's Twicer | 62 | | 7 | Charles | Anguilet | GAB | Pendleton's Twicer | 57 | | 8 | Behnam | Khalilikhosroshani | IRN | Mercedes-Benz | 40 | | 9 | Matej | Vysna | SVK | Milka | 39 | | 10 | Ondrej | Belohoubek | CZE | Team Pokerstars.com | 28 | | 11 | Yves | Da Luz | LUX | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 26 | | 12 | Gianchiglio | Tieri | ITA | Bacardi - Colt | 24 | | 13 | Jan | Van Epoel | BEL | Festina - Corona | 23 | | 14 | Alberto | Jeanneret | SWI | UBS - Annie Chun's | 23 | | 15 | Andrés | RodrÃguez | COL | Yamaha - Greenpeace | 23 | | 16 | Damion | Drapac | AUS | Red Bull | 22 | | 17 | James | Williamson | NZL | Red Bull | 21 | | 18 | Johan | Nystrand | SWD | Sony Ericsson | 20 | | 19 | Robel | Tedros | AUT | Domina Vacanze | 18 | | 20 | Ramiro | Cabrera Gonzalez | URU | Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by The Moon X | 17 | | 21 | Frederic | Boivin | CAN | Quiksilver-Kraft | 17 | | 22 | Christian | Schaffer | SWI | UBS - Annie Chun's | 17 | | 23 | Jarno | Gmelich | NED | Jack Wolfskin | 17 | | 24 | Bas | Stamsnijder | NED | Jack Wolfskin | 16 | | 25 | Vasco | Pereira | POR | Pearl Adidas | 16 | | 26 | Jens | Keukeleire | BEL | Festina - Corona | 14 | | 27 | Vyacheslav | Fedorov | KAZ | Lipton Ice Tea | 14 | | 28 | Nathan | Brown | USA | Wikipedia | 14 | | 29 | Kévin | Reza | FRA | EL AL - IDF | 14 | | 30 | Joris | Wagemans | BEL | Team Pokerstars.com | 12 | | 31 | Christopher | Juul-Jensen | DEN | UBS - Annie Chun's | 12 | | 32 | Patrick | Bercz | GER | Milka | 11 | | 33 | Elijah | Hubert | USA | Wikipedia | 11 | | 34 | Maxim | Toporishchev | RUS | Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft | 10 | | 35 | Simon | Holt | GBR | YouTube - Twitter | 9 | | 36 | Marco | Haller | AUT | Domina Vacanze | 9 | | 37 | Spartak | Denaturaev | RUS | Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft | 8 | | 38 | Geert | Van der Sanden | NED | Jack Wolfskin | 8 | | 39 | Casey | Munro | AUS | Red Bull | 8 | | 40 | Andrew | Hunt | CAN | Quiksilver-Kraft | 8 | | 41 | Matt | Green | GBR | YouTube - Twitter | 8 | | 42 | Mike | Rudling | GBR | YouTube - Twitter | 7 | | 43 | Roman | Dronin | UZB | Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by The Moon X | 7 | | 44 | Yannick | Eijssen | BEL | Festina - Corona | 6 | | 45 | Mikkel | Lund | DEN | Team Falcon-Husqvarna | 6 | | 46 | Bob | Jungels | LUX | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 6 | | 47 | Miguel | Minguez Ayala | ESP | Santander | 5 | | 48 | Kim | Michely | LUX | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 5 | | 49 | Bassirou | Konte | BUR | Pendleton's Twicer | 4 | | 50 | Pablo | Lechuga | ESP | Pearl Adidas | 4 | | 51 | Juan | Cancino | CHL | Yamaha - Greenpeace | 4 | | 52 | Ken Sebastian | VassdÃ¥l | NOR | Team Telenor-SAS | 4 | | 53 | Far Saeed | Navid | IRN | Mercedes-Benz | 4 | | 54 | Salvador | Guardiola Tora | ESP | Santander | 3 | | 55 | Gabriel | Cerveira | POR | Pearl Adidas | 3 | | 56 | Jochen | Engelen | BEL | Festina - Corona | 3 | | 57 | Alexis | Bodiot | FRA | EL AL - IDF | 2 | | 58 | Marino | Prestia | ITA | Bacardi - Colt | 2 | | 59 | Tullio | Tenzon | ITA | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 2 | | 60 | Michał | Kwiatkowski | POL | Milka | 2 | | 61 | Danilo | Milioni | ITA | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 2 | | 62 | Fonne | Woortman | NED | Jack Wolfskin | 2 | | 63 | Rigido | Moscariello | ITA | Bacardi - Colt | 2 | | 64 | Lluis | Mas | ESP | Lipton Ice Tea | 2 | | 65 | Ivo | Fernandes | POR | Pearl Adidas | 1 | | 66 | Jesús | Herrada | ESP | Santander | 1 |
At the start of the race, Pendletons led Mercedes by 2 points. Pendletons scored 4 points through the Burkina Faso rider Konte, and Mercedes failed to score. Unfortunately for Pendletons, Pokerstars scored heavily - 20 for Vandoussellaere taking 2nd, and 12 for Wagemans taking 5th.
And so the end result? Pokerstars win by 3 points! Theyve done the double. Pendletons, Mercedes and Bacardi next - while a winning end sees El Al overtake Falcon and take 5th.
| 1 | Team Pokerstars.com | 126 | | 2 | Pendleton's Twicer | 123 | | 3 | Mercedes-Benz | 117 | | 4 | Bacardi - Colt | 98 | | 5 | EL AL - IDF | 89 | | 6 | Team Falcon-Husqvarna | 70 | | 7 | UBS - Annie Chun's | 52 | | 8 | Milka | 52 | | 9 | Red Bull | 51 | | 10 | Festina - Corona | 46 | | 11 | Jack Wolfskin | 43 | | 12 | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 41 | | 13 | Yamaha - Greenpeace | 27 | | 14 | Domina Vacanze | 27 | | 15 | Wikipedia | 25 | | 16 | Quiksilver-Kraft | 25 | | 17 | Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by The Moon X | 24 | | 18 | Pearl Adidas | 24 | | 19 | YouTube - Twitter | 24 | | 20 | Sony Ericsson | 20 | | 21 | Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft | 18 | | 22 | Lipton Ice Tea | 16 | | 23 | Santander | 9 | | 24 | Team Telenor-SAS | 4 |
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| ltt |
Posted on 24-01-2011 22:58
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Would have done so much better if Boivin hadn't dropped from 2nd to 16th and out of the point scoring positions in the Sachsen Tour
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-01-2011 22:59
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I can live with that, my team was weak other than Bar, who did great. |
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| beagle |
Posted on 24-01-2011 23:11
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
does that mean that by your calculations i win beagle?
I took points on base of 1st post in this thread and figured up 15pts for 2nd and 9pts for 5th place...but according SN´s calculation I achieved even 20+12pts here, so I won
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-01-2011 23:13
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beagle wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
does that mean that by your calculations i win beagle?
I took points on base of 1st post in this thread and figured up 15pts for 2nd and 9pts for 5th place...but according SN´s calculation I achieved even 20+12pts here, so I won
Yeh, ranking points come from the CQ 2.NC/1.NC scale
The bit in the first post is for XP gained
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| beagle |
Posted on 24-01-2011 23:19
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I see, thanks
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 25-01-2011 07:54
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well, that's great from my small talent pool and especially as none of my riders were mentioned in any of the previews. so avenir here we come. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 25-01-2011 08:29
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
well, that's great from my small talent pool and especially as none of my riders were mentioned in any of the previews. so avenir here we come.
I didn't go too bad on my predictions - I thought that Pokerstars, Bacardi, El Al and Festina would make it. But I forgot that Festina tend to have bad luck in the sprints. Interesting really that Festina and Pokerstars had to split their talent for the belgian riders - I wonder whether the eventual U23 individual winner was discussed heavily between beagle and SotD.
Pendletons and Mercedes did far better due to attacking rides - credit to them as they picked squads from developmental regions and with limited talent pools they have really excelled.
It was all good fun and a little exp thrown out there to Drapac, Williamson, Roe and Munro may enhance their chances of finding a pro contract next season. Riders like Bar and Vanderwhatshisname may well be hot property next transfer season. A very fun and worthwile venture I would say.
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-01-2011 08:49
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Smowz wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
well, that's great from my small talent pool and especially as none of my riders were mentioned in any of the previews. so avenir here we come.
I didn't go too bad on my predictions - I thought that Pokerstars, Bacardi, El Al and Festina would make it. But I forgot that Festina tend to have bad luck in the sprints. Interesting really that Festina and Pokerstars had to split their talent for the belgian riders - I wonder whether the eventual U23 individual winner was discussed heavily between beagle and SotD.
He wasn't... I just wanted to race, so we didn't have any discussions whatsoever :-)
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| beagle |
Posted on 25-01-2011 10:17
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only short additional: we made a deal easily- Keukelerie to Festina / 4 Belgian riders chosen by me to Pokerstars
as simple as that 
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-01-2011 10:47
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Yeah. I had an expection that Keukeleir would win almost every sprint, and also be the best at surviving the hills. I was wrong :-)
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| Heine |
Posted on 25-01-2011 11:17
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You forgot the sprint-curse on Festina I bet :-p
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| viking90 |
Posted on 25-01-2011 15:34
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We had the chances but we screwed it up... but a 6th in the teams classifaction is okey.
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-01-2011 15:41
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Heine wrote:
You forgot the sprint-curse on Festina I bet :-p
Yeah... I tend to forget bad things 
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