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Posted on 20-06-2010 18:31
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I just finished Volta a Catalunya in Career. It's really hard to create gaps on the hilly stages so Rabon, the man that won the prologue also won overall. Realistic right? At least the rest of the top 10 overall were decent hilly riders. |
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Posted on 20-06-2010 18:37
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So i played the Giro d'Italia.
I simmed the TT's and flat stages and did the mountain stages in 3D.
What particularly surprised me was that a sprinter like Petacchi joined the early breakaway to protect his jersey 
Another really cool thing was that i fell twice with Basso, in the descent of the Gavia and the Mortirolo, trying to attack. I guess this is due to basso's weak stat in downhill. I managed to get back to the other favs though, with the help of Péraud(OLO) who seems to be a great descender.
Another cool thing is that Sammy Sanchez' team controlled all the stages, as he was the big favourite, and on the hills his team's best climbers really tried to break the peloton apart.
These are some of the results:
Supergiro di Italia_Brunico - Peio Terme
1 Michele Scarponi ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI 4h31'54
2 Ivan Basso LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 12
3 Damiano Cunego LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
4 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
5 Riccardo Mittò CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
6 Stefano Gurzelli ANNA SAVON s.t.
7 Marzio Bruseghin CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
8 Francesco Mosciarelli ANNA SAVON s.t.
9 Juan José Cobo Acebo CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
10 Santo Anza CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
11 Tony Martin TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
12 José Serpa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
13 Jakob Fuglsang TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
14 Luis León Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
15 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
16 Bauke Mollema RABOBANK s.t.
17 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
18 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
19 Alberto Losada CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
20 Amets Txurruka EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
21 Andrea Noe CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
22 Luca Mezzanti TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
23 Sylvester Szmyd LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
24 Francisco Pérez Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
25 Jose Rujano ISD - NERI - GIAMBENINI s.t.
26 Josep Jufre Pou ASTANA s.t.
27 Carlos José Ochoa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
28 Egoi MartÃnez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
29 Branislau Samoilau QUICKSTEP + 1'04
30 Leonardo Bertagnolli ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
31 Massimo Cidol ANNA SAVON + 1'12
32 Mario Aerts OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 1'20
33 Morris Pessoni TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
34 Marco Marzano LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
35 Oliver Zaugg LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
36 Gustav Larsson TEAM SAXO BANK + 1'28
37 Kanstantsin Siutsou TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
38 Massimiliano Gentili CERAMICA FLAMINIA + 1'44
39 Aitor Hernández EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 2'00
40 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - NERI - GIAMBENINI + 3'28
41 Timothy Diggan GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 3'36
42 Andrea Mosciarelli ANNA SAVON + 4'00
43 Vicente Reynès TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 4'48
44 Scott Davis ASTANA + 4'56
45 Russell Duwning TEAM BLUE SKY + 5'04
46 Daniele Bennati LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
47 Eduard Virganov TEAM CATYOUCHA + 5'28
48 Gerben Löwik OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
49 Luis Angel Mate ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
50 Mauricio Ardila RABOBANK s.t.
This wasn't really a hard mountain stage, and i didn't expect to be big gaps between the favourites. Cunego won the group sprint, which i really liked, thanks to his sprint stat.
Supergiro di Italia_San Vigilio di Marebbe - Plan de Corones
1 Ivan Basso LIQUIGAS – DOIMO 33'46
2 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 1'22
3 Michele Scarponi ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI + 1'29
4 Damiano Cunego LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI + 1'53
5 Stefano Gurzelli ANNA SAVON + 2'05
6 Tony Martin TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 2'16
7 Riccardo Mittò CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
8 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 2'26
9 Marzio Bruseghin CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 2'40
10 Jakob Fuglsang TEAM SAXO BANK + 2'43
11 Luis León Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 2'55
12 José Serpa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI + 2'57
13 Juan José Cobo Acebo CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 3'00
14 Carlos José Ochoa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
15 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 3'12
16 Francesco Mosciarelli ANNA SAVON s.t.
17 Sylvester Szmyd LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 3'24
18 Santo Anza CERAMICA FLAMINIA + 3'28
19 Leonardo Bertagnolli ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI + 3'32
20 Bauke Mollema RABOBANK + 3'35
21 Alberto Losada CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 3'36
22 Amets Txurruka EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 3'38
23 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 3'40
24 Luca Mezzanti TEAM CATYOUCHA + 3'45
25 Andrea Noe CERAMICA FLAMINIA + 3'48
26 Oliver Zaugg LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 3'53
27 Marco Marzano LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI + 3'57
28 Branislau Samoilau QUICKSTEP + 3'59
29 Josep Jufre Pou ASTANA + 4'03
30 Jose Rujano ISD - NERI - GIAMBENINI + 4'05
31 Christian Knees TEAM MILRAM + 4'08
32 Francisco Pérez Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'09
33 Egoi MartÃnez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 4'11
34 Tom Denielson GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 4'16
35 Mario Aerts OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 4'17
36 Gustav Larsson TEAM SAXO BANK + 4'19
37 José Iván Gutierrez CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'24
38 Thomas Rohregger TEAM MILRAM + 4'29
39 Tiago Jose Pinto Machado TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
40 Massimo Cidol ANNA SAVON + 4'33
41 Alessandro Petacchi LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI + 4'34
42 Stijn Devolder QUICKSTEP + 4'39
43 Eduard Virganov TEAM CATYOUCHA + 4'40
44 Steven Cezza GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 4'41
45 Tomas Vaitkus TEAM RADIOSHACK + 4'45
46 Danny Pite GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
47 Yohan Offredo FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 4'47
48 Sebastian Langeveld RABOBANK s.t.
49 Gerben Löwik OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 4'48
50 Bram Tankink RABOBANK + 4'49
Pretty normal results for a climb time trial to plat de corona. Basso owned this just like Garzelli did in the real Giro
Supergiro di Italia_Brescia - Aprica
1 Michele Scarponi ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI 5h38'59
2 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 10
3 Ivan Basso LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 1'03
4 Riccardo Mittò CERAMICA FLAMINIA + 1'32
5 Luis León Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
6 Stefano Gurzelli ANNA SAVON s.t.
7 Damiano Cunego LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
8 Tony Martin TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
9 Jakob Fuglsang TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
10 Juan José Cobo Acebo CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
11 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 2'43
12 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 2'59
13 Andrea Noe CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
14 Luca Mezzanti TEAM CATYOUCHA + 3'39
15 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
16 Carlos José Ochoa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
17 Amets Txurruka EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
18 Sylvester Szmyd LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
19 Egoi MartÃnez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
20 Marco Marzano LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
21 Oliver Zaugg LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
22 Marzio Bruseghin CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 5'23
23 Francesco Mosciarelli ANNA SAVON + 6'03
24 Santo Anza CERAMICA FLAMINIA s.t.
25 Bauke Mollema RABOBANK s.t.
26 José Serpa ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
27 Leonardo Bertagnolli ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI s.t.
28 Alberto Losada CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 9'07
29 Tom Denielson GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
30 Jose Rujano ISD - NERI - GIAMBENINI s.t.
31 Branislau Samoilau QUICKSTEP s.t.
32 Morris Pessoni TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
33 Josep Jufre Pou ASTANA s.t.
34 Serguei Ivenov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
35 Gustav Larsson TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
36 Christian Knees TEAM MILRAM s.t.
37 Bartosz Huzarski ISD - NERI - GIAMBENINI s.t.
38 Davide Malacarne QUICKSTEP s.t.
39 Thomas Rohregger TEAM MILRAM s.t.
40 Danny Pite GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
41 Tiago Jose Pinto Machado TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
42 Eduard Virganov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
43 Mauricio Ardila RABOBANK s.t.
44 Mario Aerts OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
45 Bram Tankink RABOBANK s.t.
46 Massimo Cidol ANNA SAVON s.t.
47 Alexandre Batcharov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
48 Stijn Devolder QUICKSTEP s.t.
49 Francesco Reda QUICKSTEP s.t.
50 Ben Swuft TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
The stage over the gavia, Sanchez and Scarponi escaped in the descent of the Gavia and managed to keep their lead on the Passo del Tonale. Big crash took place in that descent (caused by Basso) and 2 heavy injuries causing riders to abandon the race!
I.M.O this giro was pretty much normal, no strange things like weird time gaps or other stuff.
PS: I have to admit that there weren't many strong climbers in the race. Basso-Cunego-Scarponi-Sammy Sanchez. All the others had like 77 or less in MO
Edited by Timmeh on 20-06-2010 18:40
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Posted on 21-06-2010 12:04
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Goldberger wrote:
Is anybody interested in playing a few mountain stages in Giro or Tour to see how the A1 is, and then reporting about it here afterwards?
To see if results and timegaps is realistic, and how often breaks makes it to the finish etc. Also could be cool to see reports from the big classics.
So i tried the Tdf in carreer, with Liquigas. I got owned biig time
I noticed that less favourites attacked on a summit for the mountain points. I was always annoyed by this... made it much easier to win in pcm 09...
I was shocked (in a good way) by the AI. E.g. there was a stage (crossing the Peyresourde, Aspin, Tourmalet and Soulor-Aubisque) where Cyril Dessel attacked to gain pts for the mountain jersey. He won the race with 14 minutes advantage on Contador and the other favourites. Due to this raid he became n°1 in GC  . Too bad for him he sucks at TT and got his ass kicked by Contador at the end. Another cool thing was that, if a team contained two favourites, they worked for the one that was better in the GC. I noticed this in the Rabobank team; At first Gesink was better in GC and Menchov protected him in mountain stages, but in one of the races Gesink crashed and lost alot of time. After that, Gesink protected Menchov.
These are some results i had:
Tour de France_Wanze - Arenberg Porte du Hainaut
The CB stone stage.
1 Heinrich Huussler CAR&VELO TEST TEAM 4h43'34
2 Fabian Cancellara TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
3 Gert Steegmans TEAM RADIOSHACK + 1'04
4 Philippe Gilbert OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
5 Martijn Moaskant GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 1'45
6 Juan Antonio Flecho TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
7 Edvald Baasson Hagen TEAM BLUE SKY + 2'19
8 Sebastian Langeveld RABOBANK s.t.
9 Stijn Devolder QUICKSTEP s.t.
10 Lars Boom RABOBANK s.t.
11 Tom Leezer RABOBANK s.t.
12 Kevin Van Impe QUICKSTEP s.t.
13 Oscar Freire RABOBANK + 4'38
14 Danilo Nipolitano TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
15 Wouter Weylandt QUICKSTEP s.t.
16 Kurt-Asle Arvosen TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
17 Sylvain Chavanel QUICKSTEP s.t.
18 George Huncapie CBM RACING TEAM s.t.
19 Tom Boonen QUICKSTEP s.t.
20 André Greipel TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
21 Stuart O'Grady TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
22 Tyler Ferrar GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
23 Jürgen Roelandts OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
24 Yauheni Hutarovich FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
25 Bernhard Eisel TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
26 Graeme Brown RABOBANK s.t.
27 Daniele Bennati LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
28 Peter Wrölich TEAM MILRAM s.t.
29 Karsten Kraon CBM RACING TEAM s.t.
30 Mikhail Ignotiev TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
31 Leif Hoste OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
32 Christophe Moreau CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
33 Hayden Roulston TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
34 Carlos Barredo QUICKSTEP s.t.
35 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
36 Sebastien Hinault AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
37 Mathieu Ladagnous FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
38 Allan Davis ASTANA s.t.
39 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
40 Nikolas Maes QUICKSTEP s.t.
41 Baden Cooke TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
42 Mathieu Drujon CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
43 Bradley Waggins TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
44 Roger Hummond CAR&VELO TEST TEAM s.t.
45 Robbie McEwun TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
46 David Mullar GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
47 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
48 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
49 Nico Sijmens COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
50 Theo Bas CAR&VELO TEST TEAM s.t.
Only Franck Schleck lost time compared to the other favourites, who were all in the bunch. On one of the last CB sections, the peloton broke apart and the good CB riders decided who won the race.
Tour de France_Revel - Ax 3 Domaines
1 Alberto Contador ASTANA 4h59'12
2 Carlos Sustre CAR&VELO TEST TEAM s.t.
3 Bradley Waggins TEAM BLUE SKY + 44
4 Robert Gesink RABOBANK s.t.
5 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
6 Andy Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK + 1'00
7 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
8 Michael Rogers TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
9 Denis Menchov RABOBANK s.t.
10 Levi Leipheimer TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
11 Christophe Le Mével FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
12 Rémi Pauriol COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
13 Maxime Monfort TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 1'19
14 John Gadret AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
15 Fränk Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
16 Vincenzo Nibali LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 1'33
17 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 1'52
18 Christian Vindevelde GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 2'08
19 Vladimir Kerpets TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
20 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
21 Daniel Mertin GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 2'16
22 David Zubriskie GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
23 Richie Porte TEAM SAXO BANK + 2'24
24 Roman Kreuziger LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
25 Rein Taaramae COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
26 Igor Anton EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
27 Joaquin Radriguez TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
28 Cyril Dessel AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
29 Hubert Dupont AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
30 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
31 Andreas Klöden TEAM RADIOSHACK + 2'32
32 David Moncoutié COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
33 Rémy Di Gregorio FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 2'48
34 Laurens Ten Dam RABOBANK + 3'20
35 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
36 David Arroyo CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
37 Sylvain Chavanel QUICKSTEP + 4'48
38 Markus Fothen TEAM MILRAM s.t.
39 Linus Gerdemann TEAM MILRAM s.t.
40 Julien El Fares COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
41 Vasil Kiryienka CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'56
42 Janez Brajkovic TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
43 Trent Lawe GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
44 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
45 Amaël Moinard COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
46 Christophe Moreau CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
47 Beñat Intxausti EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
48 Sylvain Culzati TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
49 Robert Kiserlovski LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
50 Daniel Navarro Garcia ASTANA s.t.
Pretty realistic result. Sastre attacked on the Port de Pailhères and only Contador managed to get back to him. Weird was that, when i tried to attack in the descent of the Pailhères with Nibali, i couldn't get away from the peloton... While sastre, who is a lousy descender managed to get 3 minutes...
Bunch finished after 36 minutes and contained 76 riders.
Tour de France_Bagnères-de-Luchon - Pau
1 Cyril Dessel AG2R - LA MONDIALE 5h53'39
2 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 14'32
3 Carlos Sustre CAR&VELO TEST TEAM + 15'23
4 Alberto Contador ASTANA + 15'46
5 Levi Leipheimer TEAM RADIOSHACK + 16'22
6 Bradley Waggins TEAM BLUE SKY + 17'15
7 Roman Kreuziger LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
8 Andy Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK + 17'44
9 Robert Gesink RABOBANK s.t.
10 Denis Menchov RABOBANK + 18'38
11 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA + 18'59
12 Fränk Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
13 Maxime Monfort TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
14 Michael Rogers TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
15 Vincenzo Nibali LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 19'50
16 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
17 Christophe Le Mével FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 23'08
18 Hubert Dupont AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
19 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 23'31
20 Andreas Klöden TEAM RADIOSHACK + 24'07
21 Vladimir Kerpets TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
22 David Moncoutié COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 24'29
23 Rein Taaramae COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
24 Richie Porte TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
25 Igor Anton EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 25'19
26 Rémi Pauriol COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
27 Joaquin Radriguez TEAM CATYOUCHA + 26'13
28 Sylvain Chavanel QUICKSTEP + 26'44
29 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK + 27'05
30 David Arroyo CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 32'35
31 Christian Vindevelde GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 33'03
32 David Zubriskie GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
33 Daniel Mertin GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
34 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY + 33'40
35 Amaël Moinard COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
36 Sylvain Culzati TEAM BLUE SKY + 34'21
37 John Gadret AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
38 Lars Boom RABOBANK + 35'09
39 Vasil Kiryienka CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
40 Jérôme Pineau QUICKSTEP + 35'49
41 Edvald Baasson Hagen TEAM BLUE SKY + 38'14
42 Janez Brajkovic TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
43 Rémy Di Gregorio FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 38'39
44 Jelle Vanendert OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 39'04
45 Beñat Intxausti EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 41'58
46 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
47 David Mullar GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 42'33
48 Markus Fothen TEAM MILRAM s.t.
49 Ryder Hisjedal GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 43'00
50 Laurens Ten Dam RABOBANK s.t.
Stage crossing the Peyresourde, Aspin, Tourmalet and Soulor-Aubisque.
Crazy stage if you ask me but not impossible! Remember Rasmussen's raids for the mountain jersey. The big group finished after 1h20, but they weren't overtime  Kinda strange if you ask me. Again, Contador owned. Noone could keep up with him on the Aubisque. I really enjoyed seeing that a breakaway could get such an advantage and keep it all the way to the finish.
Tour de France_Bordeaux - Pauillac
1 Levi Leipheimer TEAM RADIOSHACK 1h08'24
2 Michael Rogers TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 1'36
3 Andreas Klöden TEAM RADIOSHACK + 1'55
4 Denis Menchov RABOBANK + 2'06
5 David Zubriskie GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 2'11
6 Alberto Contador ASTANA + 2'20
7 Richie Porte TEAM SAXO BANK + 2'51
8 Bradley Waggins TEAM BLUE SKY + 2'58
9 Edvald Baasson Hagen TEAM BLUE SKY + 3'11
10 David Mullar GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
11 Janez Brajkovic TEAM RADIOSHACK + 3'30
12 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY + 3'31
13 Christian Vindevelde GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
14 Roman Kreuziger LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 3'34
15 Lars Boom RABOBANK + 3'36
16 Sylvain Chavanel QUICKSTEP + 3'46
17 Maxime Monfort TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 3'52
18 Benoit Vaugrenard FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
19 George Huncapie CBM RACING TEAM + 4'00
20 Vladimir Kerpets TEAM CATYOUCHA + 4'06
21 Rui Alberto Costa CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'24
22 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 4'26
23 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA + 4'32
24 Vasil Kiryienka CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'35
25 Markus Fothen TEAM MILRAM + 4'39
26 Vincenzo Nibali LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
27 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'44
28 Mikhail Ignotiev TEAM CATYOUCHA + 4'56
29 Linus Gerdemann TEAM MILRAM + 4'59
30 Kurt-Asle Arvosen TEAM BLUE SKY + 5'04
31 Brett Luncaster CAR&VELO TEST TEAM + 5'05
32 Robert Gesink RABOBANK + 5'06
33 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 5'15
34 Leif Hoste OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 5'17
35 Carlos Sustre CAR&VELO TEST TEAM + 5'20
36 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 5'22
37 Rein Taaramae COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 5'34
38 Bert Grabsch TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 5'35
39 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK + 5'39
40 Carlos Barredo QUICKSTEP + 5'44
41 José Iván Gutierrez CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 6'00
42 Paul Martens RABOBANK + 6'16
43 Andy Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK + 6'19
44 Andriy Grivko ASTANA + 6'32
45 Martijn Moaskant GAMIN - TRANSITATION + 6'36
46 David Moncoutié COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 6'46
47 Christophe Le Mével FRANÇAISE DES JEUX + 6'48
48 Rémi Pauriol COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 6'55
49 Alex Rasmussen TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
50 Luis Pasamontes R. CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 6'56
The time trial in the end of the tour. It surprised me how much time i lost here. Kreuziger was one of the favourites and lost like 3 minutes on Leipheimer. I used to win the time trials in pcm 09 tho 
The loser of the day (Aitor Galdos) Lost 11 minutes(!)
I guess I haven't seen any anormalities in this tour. Perhaps downhill stat has a kinda low impact on the downhill riding. |
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| andybandy |
Posted on 21-06-2010 12:10
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The downhill-rating is even more important in PCM10 my opinion, but attacking isn't very smart. Use the "dot" and increase/decrease the percentages between 75 and 99. Make sure that you never go above 170 in pulse. Try to go away from the peloton before the downhill starts, or at the top of the mountain. That's my experience from online games. |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 21-06-2010 12:21
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andybandy wrote:
The downhill-rating is even more important in PCM10 my opinion, but attacking isn't very smart. Use the "dot" and increase/decrease the percentages between 75 and 99. Make sure that you never go above 170 in pulse. Try to go away from the peloton before the downhill starts, or at the top of the mountain. That's my experience from online games.
Alrighty! I'll try it right away! |
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| Ezio |
Posted on 21-06-2010 12:56
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Though, he loses all the time anyway. Byt yes, it's a good tactic. |
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| peanutbutter |
Posted on 21-06-2010 13:52
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What is the "dot" ? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 21-06-2010 14:03
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andybandy wrote:
The downhill-rating is even more important in PCM10 my opinion, but attacking isn't very smart. Use the "dot" and increase/decrease the percentages between 75 and 99. Make sure that you never go above 170 in pulse. Try to go away from the peloton before the downhill starts, or at the top of the mountain. That's my experience from online games.
You mean people dont team attack online. Thats the reason I never played road races online. But if people aren't doing it these days then I'm in.
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| Ezio |
Posted on 21-06-2010 14:10
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Attacking downhill is like suicide in PCM10. |
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| andybandy |
Posted on 21-06-2010 14:14
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I have only played a lot with three other persons over Hamachi, so I don't know about Gamecenter etc. But yes, I noticed a fantastic gameplay during the mountain stages in the Giro. It's possible to attack a long way from the finish and maintain the lead to the very end. In that way thing changes very fast from stage to stage, and it's possible to lose 2 min in one stage, and win the next stage with 2 min.
Because of all the turns when you're going downhill, you're just wasting your energy if you attack all the way down, and you don't get the same "boost" while you are attacking in general.
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 21-06-2010 14:26
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peanutbutter wrote:
What is the "dot" ?
In the manual it's called something like "own power", the rider uses the amount of energy as u put on the energy bar. (the 0-99 bar in de control panel) |
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| Teddler |
Posted on 23-06-2010 01:42
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Has anyone played the stage to Montalcino in the giro yet? How does gravel affect the racing, I've noticed there isn't a stat for it, so is it just the cobblestones stat? |
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Posted on 23-06-2010 08:41
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ried the Alpe D'Huez stage of the Dauphine and although I forgot to export the results the final result was something like this:
First 5 across the line all with the same time (Contador, Schleck, + 3 others - 1 of whom was from the break of the day)
next 3 came home 18 seconds down,
then a group of 5 about 30 seconds down,
then bigger groups from about a minute down....
overall, much better than the usual massive gaps from previous editions..... |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 23-06-2010 14:37
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Teddler wrote:
Has anyone played the stage to Montalcino in the giro yet? How does gravel affect the racing, I've noticed there isn't a stat for it, so is it just the cobblestones stat?
It kinda made not much difference to me.. No more crashes or flat tires and the peloton stayed together. It might be different when it rains... I'll test it in the rain now |
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Posted on 23-06-2010 22:02
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Playing the Giro atm with Liquigas on extreme in tour-mode. I just installed it a hour ago, so my first experience of PCM10. The results of the prologue were realistic stat-wise. Not random riders winning. Very happy with this. Did first 2 flats in detailed simulation. Won the first one with Bennati, and the top 10's are realistic here. After that, the TT. I finished 42 seconds back to Katyousha at the first and second intermediate, and then i won the TT with 48 seconds. Was a surprise, since it's my first time on extreme. It's alot of fun so far, looking forward to the first mountain stage.
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 23-06-2010 22:06
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facmanpob wrote:
ried the Alpe D'Huez stage of the Dauphine and although I forgot to export the results the final result was something like this:
First 5 across the line all with the same time (Contador, Schleck, + 3 others - 1 of whom was from the break of the day)
next 3 came home 18 seconds down,
then a group of 5 about 30 seconds down,
then bigger groups from about a minute down....
overall, much better than the usual massive gaps from previous editions.....
Very nice to result. good to hear. |
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Posted on 23-06-2010 22:20
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Ezio wrote:
Attacking downhill is like suicide in PCM10.
Totally! Back in 09 attacking downhill was a good tactic to gain some time on your opponents, but not anymore. I've tried a few times and i've ended up crashing or just getting a few seconds for way too much energy. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 24-06-2010 01:55
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I have experienced the same thing. The downhill skill is really importent in the 2010 version. And that just makes the game more realistic and fun
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Posted on 24-06-2010 10:59
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jokovic wrote:
harry wrote:
Timmeh wrote:
Wiggo wrote:
Why don't you consider Valverde a doped rider?
It's not proven
Blood transfusions are very difficult to prove. They found blood bags of Valverde (has his DNA) so he was a doper or was going to be a doper. Anyways, he should be punished...
valverder is just doped get it he is just a shitty noob ! i like to see they catched valverde! They have catched him |
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| Timmeh |
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I rode the Pau-Tourmalet stage that was fixed with the 1st patch
Results seemed very realistic!
1 Alberto Contador ASTANA 5h09'33
2 Andy Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK + 9
3 Cadel Evens CBM RACING TEAM + 22
4 Ivan Basso LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
5 Denis Menchov RABOBANK + 41
6 Carlos Sustre CAR&VELO TEST TEAM s.t.
7 Levi Leipheimer TEAM RADIOSHACK + 55
8 Roman Kreuziger LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
9 Bradley Woggins TEAM BLUE SKY + 1'22
10 Lance Neilstrung TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
11 Andreas Klöden TEAM RADIOSHACK + 1'45
12 Christophe Le Mével FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
13 Robert Gesink RABOBANK + 1'59
14 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 2'08
15 Alexandre Vinokourov ASTANA s.t.
16 Michele Scarponi ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI + 2'20
17 Rein Taaramae COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE + 2'44
18 Michael Rogers TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
19 Johann Tschopp BBOX - BOUYGUES TELECOM s.t.
20 Igor Anton EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
21 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
22 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 3'12
23 Janez Brajkovic TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
24 Marco Pinotti TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
25 Linus Gerdemann TEAM MILRAM s.t.
26 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
27 Haimar Zubeldia TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
28 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
29 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
30 Jens Voigt TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
31 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
32 Fränk Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
33 Christophe Moreau CAISSE D'EPARGNE + 4'58
34 Richie Porte TEAM SAXO BANK + 5'14
35 Yaroslav Popovych TEAM RADIOSHACK + 5'22
36 Robert Kiserlovski LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
37 Tony Martin TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 5'54
38 Tejay Van Garderen TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 6'02
39 Thomas Rohregger TEAM MILRAM + 6'10
40 Dario Cataldo QUICKSTEP + 6'18
41 Branislau Samoilau QUICKSTEP s.t.
42 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK + 6'42
43 Francis De Greef OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
44 Gorka Verdugo EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
45 Rémy Di Gregorio FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
46 Sylvester Szmyd LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
47 Daniel Navarro Garcia ASTANA + 6'50
48 Bauke Mollema RABOBANK s.t.
49 Rigoberto Uran CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
50 Paolo Tiralongo ASTANA + 6'58
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