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Tour de France: Pre race thread
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| justinwkirk |
Posted on 22-06-2010 17:29
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jack888 wrote:
Contador will probably have this finished by stage 10 again 
I would think that the weaknesses he showed on the climbs at Dauphine Libere would have the entire field chomping at Contador's bit this year. No way he takes this down when you got SAXO and Radio Shack both gunning for the maillot jaune and perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-06-2010 17:54
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justinwkirk wrote:
jack888 wrote:
Contador will probably have this finished by stage 10 again
I would think that the weaknesses he showed on the climbs at Dauphine Libere would have the entire field chomping at Contador's bit this year. No way he takes this down when you got SAXO and Radio Shack both gunning for the maillot jaune and perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
what weakness..that he did not droped Janez?
It was Dauphine..
But you are right this year Tour de France win is much harder..but do not forget that he is also one of the world top TT rider. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2010 18:09
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justinwkirk wrote:
I would think that the weaknesses he showed on the climbs at Dauphine Libere would have the entire field chomping at Contador's bit this year.
Weakness? For Mid June he was extremely strong. Name one guy who was in great form at the Dauphiné and didn't suffer because of it at the Tour?
The answer is none.
justinwkirk wrote:
No way he takes this down when you got SAXO and Radio Shack both gunning for the maillot jaune and
Radioshack? They have no one. Leipheimer might have a chance if there were two 50+km TTs. Maybe.
The only one who can actually challenge Contador is Andy Schleck, and that's only because by not peaking for the classics he's far better rested than Contador.
And he's still only got an outside chance. He needs to have luck on his side in stage 4 and win a lot of time there.
justinwkirk wrote:perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
That was in no way competitive. it's the most competitive field since the mid 90s.
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| HansiBoyo |
Posted on 22-06-2010 18:34
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Guido Mukk wrote:
justinwkirk wrote:
jack888 wrote:
Contador will probably have this finished by stage 10 again
I would think that the weaknesses he showed on the climbs at Dauphine Libere would have the entire field chomping at Contador's bit this year. No way he takes this down when you got SAXO and Radio Shack both gunning for the maillot jaune and perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
what weakness..that he did not droped Janez?
It was Dauphine..
But you are right this year Tour de France win is much harder..but do not forget that he is also one of the world top TT rider.
Yeah like last years Dauphine where Contador lost to Valverde & Evans, but destroyed everybody in the Tour...Dauphine & Suisse is not so important than people think...It only gives a hint about their current form
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 22-06-2010 19:48
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Biggest surprise of the year: https://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling...id=5314774 |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 22-06-2010 19:49
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I just don't understand. How could this possibly happen. Never in a million years did I think this could possibly happen. I'm shocked.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-06-2010 19:49
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That was unexpected...I don't know if I can handle that...any breaking news at CNN about that?
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| sosososik |
Posted on 22-06-2010 20:13
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I have a question. In the Tour, what jersey is Evans going to wear?The world champion jersey or the leader in UCI rankings one? |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 22-06-2010 20:14
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sosososik wrote:
I have a question. In the Tour, what jersey is Evans going to wear?The world champion jersey or the leader in UCI rankings one?
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| sosososik |
Posted on 22-06-2010 20:24
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| Wilier |
Posted on 22-06-2010 20:39
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Nibali won't ride the Tour, which is a shame, but understandable. |
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| justinwkirk |
Posted on 22-06-2010 20:58
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issoisso wrote:
justinwkirk wrote:
I would think that the weaknesses he showed on the climbs at Dauphine Libere would have the entire field chomping at Contador's bit this year.
Weakness? For Mid June he was extremely strong. Name one guy who was in great form at the Dauphiné and didn't suffer because of it at the Tour?
The answer is none.
Tried to drop Janez 9 times on the climb up DHuez and had no gas. I will concede that Pistolero always shows up in his top form for the tour, but there is a reason why so few riders repeat in Paris.
justinwkirk wrote:
No way he takes this down when you got SAXO and Radio Shack both gunning for the maillot jaune and
Radioshack? They have no one. Leipheimer might have a chance if there were two 50+km TTs. Maybe.
The shack wont win the thing, but you are kidding yourself if you think that Lance isnt going to at least try to win the Tour. He wouldnt still be racing if he didnt think he had a chance. BTW it has pretty much been the worst kept secret in cycling that Lance would rather see Contador lose, than any of his teammates win the Tour.
The only one who can actually challenge Contador is Andy Schleck, and that's only because by not peaking for the classics he's far better rested than Contador.
And he's still only got an outside chance. He needs to have luck on his side in stage 4 and win a lot of time there.
Again, conceded that Andy is still the closest shot to win, but the field is more spread out this year, and I believe that Contador will be facing attacks by 2-3 teams every day in the mountains. Even if the Schlecks or the Shacks dont win overall, this race is a war of attrition and Contador has very few allies on his side this year. My overall point was not that Contador isnt the best rider on the course, or that he wont win the TDF, just that he will be facing a very deep field of riders who are all looking to unseat the reigning champion
justinwkirk wrote:perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
That was in no way competitive. it's the most competitive field since the mid 90s.
61 seconds isnt close? Closer than any field in the 1990s
Winning Margin Year Opponents
8" 1989 Greg LeMond – Laurent Fignon
23" 2007 Alberto Contador – Cadel Evans
32" 2006 Óscar Pereiro – Andreas Klöden
38" 1968 Jan Janssen – Herman Van Springel
40" 1987 Stephen Roche – Pedro Delgado
48" 1977 Bernard Thévenet – Hennie Kuiper
55" 1964 Jacques Anquetil – Raymond Poulidor
58" 2008 Carlos Sastre – Cadel Evans
1'01" 2003 Lance Armstrong – Jan Ullrich
1'07" 1966 Lucien Aimar – Jan Janssen |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:02
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justinwkirk wrote:
justinwkirk wrote:perhaps the most competitive TDF field since lance v ullrich
issoisso wrote:
That was in no way competitive. it's the most competitive field since the mid 90s.
61 seconds isnt close? Closer than any field in the 1990s
Winning Margin Year Opponents
8" 1989 Greg LeMond – Laurent Fignon
23" 2007 Alberto Contador – Cadel Evans
32" 2006 Óscar Pereiro – Andreas Klöden
38" 1968 Jan Janssen – Herman Van Springel
40" 1987 Stephen Roche – Pedro Delgado
48" 1977 Bernard Thévenet – Hennie Kuiper
55" 1964 Jacques Anquetil – Raymond Poulidor
58" 2008 Carlos Sastre – Cadel Evans
1'01" 2003 Lance Armstrong – Jan Ullrich
1'07" 1966 Lucien Aimar – Jan Janssen
Competitive doesn't mean closest, it means the largest amount of contenders.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:03
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Competitiveness is about more than just top 2. It's about having many riders who are capable of winning.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:21
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this is sensation..I did not expect that  |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:23
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Guido Mukk wrote:
this is sensation..I did not expect that
My favorite part of that is that two years ago, ESPN ran a brilliant article on Garmin the day before the Tour. But as soon as Lance shows up, they go back to being idiot fanboys.
It's kind of like this:
And yes, I am comparing Lance to a cat.
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| Kami |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:23
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schleck93 wrote:
Competitiveness is about more than just top 2. It's about having many riders who are capable of winning.
More of the ones able for top 10 spots, winning is something else  .
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:41
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schleck93 wrote:
Competitiveness is about more than just top 2. It's about having many riders who are capable of winning.
This.
Deadpool wrote:
And yes, I am comparing Lance to a cat.
Which is interesting, given how much the doesn't-know-much-about-cycling casual fan thinks he's a nice guy or even cuddly.
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| mowinckel91 |
Posted on 22-06-2010 21:43
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Does any of you think that Thor Hushovd will win the green jersey this year as well? |
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| Ezio |
Posted on 22-06-2010 22:15
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Why not? He's capable of it, no doubt. Though he's not the fastest sprinter, so he'll have to do som stunts in the mountains like last year to win it again. |
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