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Stuttgart 2007 - World Championships
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-10-2007 13:25
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I never said he was officially a doper. But I do think that he's doped, simply because there's so much circumstantial evidence. Same goes for Valverde, Ullrich and all the other "boys".
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| odenkos |
Posted on 01-10-2007 13:28
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CrueTrue wrote:
I never said he was officially a doper. But I do think that he's doped, simply because there's so much circumstantial evidence. Same goes for Valverde, Ullrich and all the other "boys".
There's one rule in cycling: If you think he's doped, he most probably is
I agree with you. I hope that evidence comes as soon as possible
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 01-10-2007 13:30
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What cycling needs at first these days is not super powerful champions, or charismatic riders. What cycling needs badly is credibility.
When the world champion uses stupid arguments in order not to sign a commitment for a clean cycling that no clean rider would ever fear signing, he's harming cycling credibility. When such a rider whose integrity you can't trust becomes n°1 again... well... it harms cycling credibility once more. Not really what cycling needs, istn't it ? |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:14
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Janix wrote:
do you know that what you've written is completely without sense?
If you murder someone it's obvious that your word is meaningless.... but here we are talking about his OWN WORDS!!!
It the world worked as you say, I may write a newspaper article stating that you admitted you saw the full French team having a syringe party!
Comparing a murder with a declaration is one of the dumbest comparisons i have ever read... really.
And apart from that, Ruben was just right. That's the point. No formal accusations are being made on Bettini, so you can't say a word about him.
Everyone is innocent until we find evidence.
We found STRONG evidence for Vino, Moreni, Kashe, and so on, so it's useless to say they are innocent.
But you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against the World Champion.
If you don't like how the Italian team owned your favorite team, sorry but there's nothing i can do.
Yes I can share my opinion..people just dont like Bettini so what. matter of taste...
One strong point again..after winning a gold medal he sayed: Schumacher must be doped..he was to good today...and this comes from cyclist who comes for era where 75% of peloton was doped..and has himself ride one of the dirty team ever Mapei..
So far we dont have any evidence ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..against riders like Armstrong, Pantani (rip) and Bettini..have a nice life. |
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| odenkos |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:17
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I don't want evidence from Armstrong. I don't even want evidence from Pantani. I want evidence that he DIDN'T dope  .
Edited by odenkos on 01-10-2007 14:23
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:28
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Guido Mukk wrote:
One strong point again..after winning a gold medal he sayed: Schumacher must be doped..he was to good today...and this comes from cyclist who comes for era where 75% of peloton was doped..and has himself ride one of the dirty team ever Mapei..
Bettini said that? 
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:29
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Absolutely nothing against Armstrong ?
OMG, you just made my day, now I'll laugh till midnight without stopping. Thank you.  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:31
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:32
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Guido are you being sarcastic? Knowing your previous posts, I think you are...
otherwise, you'll be happy to know that there is in fact evidence against Armstrong. the most famous of which is perhaps his positive EPO test from the 1999 Tour.
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| odenkos |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:38
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Scratch that last. I had a minute off.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:40
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There's even better : a valid positive case for corticoids in 1999, without a justificative paper. The medical authorisation was provided by USP doctor after the A sample appeared to be positive. It goes without saying that it has to be provided before you even give your urine.
The date on the certificate was earlier to the test date, but the rumour is that it wasn't really the date when the paper was made. Anyway, it's illegal, thus the positive test should have remained positive.
UCI decided to forgive Armstrong, so his positive test was cancelled. Talking of corrupted people...
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:43
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Money talks big. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-10-2007 14:50
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Yep this was sarcasm..(forget to ad sarcasm symbols )...
This is was for Janix..who probably had even Landis quilty..and all year there was just conspiracy against him. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-10-2007 16:59
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Some media are now reporting that Schumacher had abnormal blood values, found in an unexpected test. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-10-2007 17:00
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Source: ADR - https://sport.ard.de/sp/radsport/news2..._werte.jsp |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-10-2007 17:01
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Wasnt Schumacher suspended at some point a couple of years ago too?
Medal for Schleck 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-10-2007 17:06
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Wasnt Schumacher suspended at some point a couple of years ago too?
Medal for Schleck
Schumacher had a positive test in 2005 |
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| Panaflex |
Posted on 01-10-2007 17:09
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Panaflex wrote:
issoisso wrote:
think of it like this: admit that Bettini is doped as everything seems to indicate.....even that way, he only NARROWLY beat guys who are supposedly clean. what does that tell you about his abilities?
Think of it like this: I'm German but I have serious doubts about Schumacher being a clean cyclist.
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.Lance
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| ruben |
Posted on 01-10-2007 17:46
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hahahahahahahah, Schumacher, oh this is just great. That'll learn the Germans
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 01-10-2007 18:14
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odenkos wrote:
I don't want evidence from Armstrong. I don't even want evidence from Pantani. I want evidence that he DIDN'T dope .
How does one prove that he did not do something? |
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