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Le Tour de France 2014 - Stage 10 - Mulhouse - La Planche des Belles Filles
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 14-07-2014 23:34
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ruben wrote:
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Ruben: what a classy comment! If Valverde had the legs that Nibali got, Im sure we would see him up the slopes. Unfortunetely he hadn't. You cant seriously blame him for that. And its not like Mollema is the most aggressive rider either when speaking of wheelsucking, is it?
When I say bunch of wheelsuckers, I do also mean types as Mollema and Vandenbroeck yeah.
Also, I'm not exactly a big fan of Mollema anymore because he is so anonymous in all the top 10 placings by doing nothing. I really don't care.
I sometimes feel you're only goal is to attack all my posts  sorry for having a different opinion then you. Live with it. Valverde is a wheelsucker in the worst sort. Sorry to say
I don't think you can call Valverde a wheelsucker when he even failed to do that at the worlds to stop Rui Costa owning Purito 
I'm not a fan of Valv.Piti's racecraft either. Classic showcase at Amstel where he just wheelsucks Gerrans and Kwiatkowski to get 2nd, giving up on chasing Gilbert and then a wild Vanendert pops up and says thank you very much.
He also got good moments like he timed it perfectly at Fleche but most of the time Valv.Piti's racing is just rage inducing.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 14-07-2014 23:46
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valverde321 wrote:
So Nibali nearly on Froome level and the others, Porte/Valv, Bardet etc all very slightly improved in terms of challengers even from last year, considering the profile prior to the final climb today.
Regarding the profile, yes, today's stage much tougher then the 2012 one but, although it had a fast start, they actually slowed to the point where they were behind the slowest scheduled time, for what that's worth.
Either way early doors in the mountains. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-07-2014 00:00
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Glad Nibbles in back in yellow, at least we won't have to see that horrible Italian NC  |
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Posted on 15-07-2014 02:34
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-07-2014 06:33
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I once again log off Daily with 20kms to go and i can only recommend it, much more enjoyable and i can actually follow the race.
Tour seems over, if Vincenzo will avoid bigger mistakes, but we should have couple of other interesting battles to enjoy. König is getting better in his favourite terrain, the mountains, looking forward to it.
I am also happy to see little French revolution, with likes of Pinot, Bardet and ever present Peraud, great stuff. Kwiatek will have a hard tme to have white in Paris against these musketeers.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 15-07-2014 06:57
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ruben: what a classy comment! If Valverde had the legs that Nibali got, Im sure we would see him up the slopes. Unfortunetely he hadn't. You cant seriously blame him for that. And its not like Mollema is the most aggressive rider either when speaking of wheelsucking, is it?
When I say bunch of wheelsuckers, I do also mean types as Mollema and Vandenbroeck yeah.
Also, I'm not exactly a big fan of Mollema anymore because he is so anonymous in all the top 10 placings by doing nothing. I really don't care.
I sometimes feel you're only goal is to attack all my posts sorry for having a different opinion then you. Live with it. Valverde is a wheelsucker in the worst sort. Sorry to say
I don't think you can call Valverde a wheelsucker when he even failed to do that at the worlds to stop Rui Costa owning Purito
I'm not a fan of Valv.Piti's racecraft either. Classic showcase at Amstel where he just wheelsucks Gerrans and Kwiatkowski to get 2nd, giving up on chasing Gilbert and then a wild Vanendert pops up and says thank you very much.
He also got good moments like he timed it perfectly at Fleche but most of the time Valv.Piti's racing is just rage inducing.
Love how you guys use "wheelsucker" as a put down, I call it good tactics and riding to your strength. Sometimes these guys just haven't got anything left to go around the rider/riders they are "wheelsucking" It might not be the most exciting way to race but it sure is effective. So they all should race like Cancellara on the front pulling and lose because they lack the racing smarts? I don't like Valverde but that mainly has to do with his unrepentant attitude to being caught with his blood in a "doctors" fridge, he does have a racing brain and if these tactics work for him then so be it. To be called a wheelsucker and winning would be a badge of honour to me.
Edited by Strydz on 15-07-2014 06:58
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| Strydz |
Posted on 15-07-2014 07:02
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I once again log off Daily with 20kms to go and i can only recommend it, much more enjoyable and i can actually follow the race.
Tour seems over, if Vincenzo will avoid bigger mistakes, but we should have couple of other interesting battles to enjoy. König is getting better in his favourite terrain, the mountains, looking forward to it.
I am also happy to see little French revolution, with likes of Pinot, Bardet and ever present Peraud, great stuff. Kwiatek will have a hard tme to have white in Paris against these musketeers.
It will be Pinot or Bardet getting white you would think by the the time they get to Paris, Kwiatek isn't in the same form as this time last year and with 1 TT I don't see how he keeps up with the 2 Frenchmen. Konig looks good and can only see him getting better as the stages get harder, still a top 10 chance and maybe a stage win along the way
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
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| roturn |
Posted on 15-07-2014 09:03
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Despite being over the time limit, the judges allow Machado and Schillinger to go on.
So Machado`s solo fight all along yesterdays stage is rewarded. He has quite a few injuries though, so he might need to recover first. But in case he recovers fast, he could be a good support for König. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 15-07-2014 09:23
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So it turns out Mollema was ill the past week, yet Belkin chose not to mention it. But it explains why Mollema isn't performing as he should be. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 15-07-2014 09:42
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kwiatek will have a hard tme to have white in Paris against these musketeers.
Nah, he has no chance. Only one TT where he can gain time and hell lose more in pyrenees. Needs to go for stage wins.
Strydz wrote: I don't like Valverde but that mainly has to do with his unrepentant attitude to being caught with his blood in a "doctors" fridge, he does have a racing brain and if these tactics work for him then so be it. To be called a wheelsucker and winning would be a badge of honour to me.
How many times he wheelsucked and won? It's when he attacks he usually wins (2008 Brest&Yellow Jersey, Fleche Wallone this year etc.). When he wheelsucks he loses out.(World Champs 13, Amstel, Pais Vasco)
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 15-07-2014 11:37
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ruben wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ruben: what a classy comment! If Valverde had the legs that Nibali got, Im sure we would see him up the slopes. Unfortunetely he hadn't. You cant seriously blame him for that. And its not like Mollema is the most aggressive rider either when speaking of wheelsucking, is it?
When I say bunch of wheelsuckers, I do also mean types as Mollema and Vandenbroeck yeah.
Also, I'm not exactly a big fan of Mollema anymore because he is so anonymous in all the top 10 placings by doing nothing. I really don't care.
I sometimes feel you're only goal is to attack all my posts sorry for having a different opinion then you. Live with it. Valverde is a wheelsucker in the worst sort. Sorry to say
I left a big post in here (the one you are quoting from) when I explained how I feel about people calling everyone else than Contador, Nibali and Froome wheelsuckers. I simply just think its disrespectful just to leave a comment like you did earlier bashing Valverde for being a boring wheelsucker or whatever you called him. If he had something left, attacked and won the stage, then I am pretty sure he just is a fucking dopehead to you, right?
Its not, really. I guess we just see things differently. I dont really care what you think about Valverde or whatever other feels about him on this forum as I have grown accustomed to he either is a) a wheelsucker or b) a dopehead. Maybe both of those. Just gettin tired and combined with Timo saying Valverde is the biggest disappointment so far (GC-wise, say what), just made me wanna comment on that as he is doing fine so far, wheelsucking, doping or not. Actually he was the one trying to bridge the gap to Nibali in the first but realized that he couldnt keep that pace. Thats just smart racing |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 15-07-2014 11:49
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Wilier wrote:
So it turns out Mollema was ill the past week, yet Belkin chose not to mention it. But it explains why Mollema isn't performing as he should be.
Source? |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 15-07-2014 12:11
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Thought this was interesting:
Tour de France prize money so far.
Just scroll down for the list (in euros). |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 15-07-2014 12:34
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TimoCycling wrote:
Wilier wrote:
So it turns out Mollema was ill the past week, yet Belkin chose not to mention it. But it explains why Mollema isn't performing as he should be.
Source?
Telegraaf |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 15-07-2014 12:36
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Wilier wrote:
So it turns out Mollema was ill the past week, yet Belkin chose not to mention it. But it explains why Mollema isn't performing as he should be.
amazing that's he's able to preform to (my ) expectations while being sick. he's basically reversing last year race
also only Nibali and Pinot haven't crashed so far. Mollema, Porte and Bardet only once. Valverde twice. Van den Broeck and Talansky three times and Van Garderen four times.
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 15-07-2014 13:30
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Wilier wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Wilier wrote:
So it turns out Mollema was ill the past week, yet Belkin chose not to mention it. But it explains why Mollema isn't performing as he should be.
Source?
Telegraaf
Sure explains a lot. He should be just as good as guys like Peraud. Still he's doing well with a 10th so far imo. Will be better in the Alps and Pyrenees. |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 15-07-2014 19:56
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Few comments:
1. First people acted happy that Froome was out with what appeared to be a broken wrist and hand. Now people acted happy that Contador was out with what appeared to be a broken fibia. What is wrong with these people, getting pleasure out of injuries by hated-cyclists??? I don't like Froome, and like Contador, but felt sorry for Froome.
2. These people bitching eacht other. Can't you see that a guy as jackdk (sorry if the name is wrong) is just making fun of everyone who reacts at his posts. And when he leaves the forum, then someone else starts to do the same. All act as adults, and start ignoring these people/posts....
3. Nibali is very strong, and deserves to be in yellow. We will never know if Froome and Contador would have beaten him, but that doesn't matter anymore. If you're out, you're out. And the battle for the win will ben between those that are in competition now.
4. The battle for 2nd place will be exciting, with a lot of riders in it. But with the Alps and Pyrenees still to come, everything can change. You cant compare the climbs in the Vosgues (relatively short and wet) to those in the Alps and Pyrenees (longer and probably hot), and the fatigue wll hit the riders in the next 10 days.
5. ENjoy the rest of the Tour, as anything can happen!
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 15-07-2014 20:20
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There is no such thing as "if" Froome and Contador "was" there. Cycling is more than producing the most watts, it's about technique, timing, concentration, team work, courage and much more.
People act like Froome and Contador deserved to win because they were the physically better conditioned to beat the others. But that's pure speculation in it's own - no one knows if they were even stronger in the end. And then this speculation is topped off with the complete neglection of other important abilities of the cyclist. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 15-07-2014 20:33
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dienblad - Well written on all counts, i will start to just ignore Jacdk and his troll-posts from now on |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-07-2014 22:30
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dienblad - I realise that putting a smiley face after finding out contador was out was a bit childish on my behalf, and for that i apologise, but i was caught up in the heat of the moment and from now on i promise i will think more before i write |
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