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| fickman |
Posted on 27-05-2014 20:41
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I dindt even saw report of crashes in the descent.
Wasnt the time cut supose to be 40 minutes cause a lot of riders came at 44 minutes among them Arredondo, Viviani, Nizzolo and Ulissi
Edited by fickman on 27-05-2014 20:47
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-05-2014 20:52
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Just because there were no reports of crashes doesnt mean it wasnt dangerous. That just shows more people were extra careful, not taking any risks, thus reducing their crash risk.
Lots of unhappy cyclists: https://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen..._na_rit_16
Miguel98 wrote:
Need to find video about the stage now...
Whole stage is at: https://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/programmi/...amp;page=0
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2014 20:53
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Epic stage. But at what cost.. |
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 20:57
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fickman wrote:
I dindt even saw report of crashes in the descent.
Wasnt the time cut supose to be 40 minutes cause a lot of riders came at 44 minutes among them Arredondo, Viviani, Nizzolo and Ulissi
I think the time limit was around 45minutes. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:00
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Kelderman is so good at following 
Does the boy know what attacking is?  He does. Sure showed you wrong. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:05
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TimoCycling wrote:
Wilier wrote:
According to CQranking a big group has finished at 39'33", but Poels and Ulissi still haven't finished.
Edit: Poels has finished at 44'07"
Poels is a big loser .
No just kidding, but very disappointing... Understandable after his huge fall he's very inconsistent.
No. Poels was already very inconsistent before his fall. Remember the Vuelta. Finished 2nd on Algliru, but sucked on some other mtf's.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:06
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Must've been mighty cold!
That was one of many tweets to be found here:
https://www.sporza..._na_rit_16
Edited by Wilier on 27-05-2014 21:09
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:07
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Didn't see stage live, but all I can say is:
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:16
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Honestly though, i get that it was cold and all. But it's always cold in the alps during the Giro, why do they wait until after to whine? EVERYONE who saw the route knew this was a posibility, teams should have brought it up then, not now. So they should just deal with it.
If it was truly dangerous i could understand them, but its just cold.
Edited by gotlandrules on 27-05-2014 21:20
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:18
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137:53. Almost all riders continue riding over the Stelvio and go straight into the descent. Kelderman and supposedly Majka stop and they take forever until they start again. They must have really believed that the race was neutralized, otherwise you wouldn't take so much dear time for this. However, it's also clearly their own fault in my eyes since everybody was behaving differently from them. When Majka says that most riders stopped, he's remembering the situation wrong.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:19
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gotlandrules wrote:
It wasn't even dangerous today, it was cold and unpleasant sure, but not dangerous.
Cold is dangerous as well.
And if there's snow and/or rain above 2000m, that's always dangerous.
This stage (and similar races) made me wonder, is there some kind of cyclist syndicate for these kind of circumstances?
Edited by MartijnVDD on 27-05-2014 21:20
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:25
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gotlandrules wrote:
Honestly though, i get that it was cold and all. But it's always cold in the alps during the Giro, why do they wait until after to whine? EVERYONE who saw the route knew this was a posibility, teams should have brought it up then, not now. So they should just deal with it.
If it was truly dangerous i could understand them, but its just cold.
This.
A cyclist should always know how to dress accordingly. Snow and rain are almost a given on the Gavia and Stelvio. They had to cancel this stage last year... What did the riders excatly expect? Sunshine and cake uptop? This stage was always meant to bring misery. Some teams were fully aware of this fact, others are now complaining. I think some people did their homework, and others did not. Simple as that.
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:29
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Did Quintana attack on a neutralized descent?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:30
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weirdskyfan64 wrote:
Did Quintana attack on a neutralized descent?
Nope, descent was not neutralized.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Kritzo |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:32
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It would appear so, as some teams is stating that the descent was indeed neutralized.
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| Kritzo |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:37
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Shonak wrote:
weirdskyfan64 wrote:
Did Quintana attack on a neutralized descent?
Nope, descent was not neutralized.
Garmin, OPQS, Belkin and Tinkoff-Saxo all thought it was neutralized, and the Belkin DS even says this: "The organisation told the sports directors that the descent of the Stelvio would be neutralised, but now they’re claiming that the message was only meant to warn us of the descent".
Many of the top tier GC candidates literally stopped on top of the Stelvio. Some Movistar riders did too!
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| Kalach |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:49
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fickman wrote:
Kalach wrote:
fickman wrote:
fickman wrote:
fickman wrote:
sgdanny wrote:
Evans is still the big card imo and hopefully were gonna see his insane strength when they hit more mountains 
Like last year where he cracked in the Mountain Stages that were riden??? He only mange to stay in the Podium beacuse 1 Mountain Stage was canceled and another one was softpedaled IIRC otherwise he would have ended up in 5 or 6 place. Looks like some fanboys allready forgot last year Giro 
I called it that Evans would start losing time as soon as they hit the Mountains now he will be lucky if he finish in the Top 5.
I wonder where are the Evans Fanboys now and where is his insane strengh in the mountains and insane 3 week recuperation that he was going to show... Still 3 Mountain Stages to go... and place 5 is only 7 seconds away and plac 9 only 1 at this rate he will be lucky if he stays in the top 10
There is not so many Evans fanboys as I can see...Honestly I expect that he wont be able to follow in high mountains stages...And dont forget that he is 37 years old fighter and probably his recovery will never be again as good as used to be...Despite that he is riding a good Giro considering all this facts (mainly age)..We will see where will be Nairo, Majka or Aru at the age of 37...
P.S. I would say Evans could win TDF more than once, if he had not so much badluck and If the peleton in his best years would have been cleaner.. He is one of the cleanest cyclists ever despite that he was riding in such a dirty peleton...Please show some respect to him I think he is definitely worth of it....
I think u should inform u better. Evans and clean no way. Ask doctor Ferrari...
I used to respect him but after this giro I lost every sympathy for the Guy. At Stage 6 he forgot how in 2012 iirc he had 2 punctures and the race leader at the moment decided to wait for him.
Then he was saying to the press he was expecting more from Quintana and he thinks Quintana is not as strong as people said before any real mountain stage was ridden.
I never imagined he was so arrogant and such a d***
Now he must be feeling like:
And in Vuelta 2009 nobody decided to wait for Cadel... Hah so are u trying to say that he has doped? And that stuff about Quintana which are u writing, how do u know that? I have not heard nothing about that
Edited by Kalach on 27-05-2014 21:50
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:50
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Kritzo wrote:
Garmin, OPQS, Belkin and Tinkoff-Saxo all thought it was neutralized, and the Belkin DS even says this: "The organisation told the sports directors that the descent of the Stelvio would be neutralised, but now they’re claiming that the message was only meant to warn us of the descent".
Many of the top tier GC candidates literally stopped on top of the Stelvio. Some Movistar riders did too!
I've written a bit above about this situation:
https://www.rai.tv...amp;page=0
137:53. Almost all riders continue riding over the Stelvio and go straight into the descent. Kelderman and supposedly Majka stop and they take forever until they start again. They must have really believed that the race was neutralized, otherwise you wouldn't take so much dear time for this. However, it's also clearly their own fault in my eyes since everybody was behaving differently from them. When Majka says that most riders stopped, he's remembering the situation wrong.
Sorry for them, but those teams understood it wrong then. Most riders, starting by Cataldo and going all through the bunch, are riding normal over the Stelvio.
And to be precise, only two Top Tier GC canditates stopped (Kelderman, Majka) as far as I can tell. All other contenders were riding normally. OPQS have been bitching about this stage from the get-go - they were basically looking for an excuse. CN Ticker reported Uran Uran shaking his head all the time at the startline and throughout the Gavia climb. Garmin got lucky despite better knowning their italian apparently. My guess is that all those team's DS spend way too much time on twitter.
"Some Movistar riders?" One Movistar rider stopped and he only did so because he couldn't close his jacket in the ride because some dude cut him off, at least that's how I interpret his complaining.
Also, 4 teams complain, but all the rest rides like no neutralization. Come on.
Edited by Shonak on 27-05-2014 21:51
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| Smoku |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:54
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“sport directors know only to listen to race radio, not follow what is said on Twitter.”
The problem is Tinkov and some others clearly don't.
In the lights of what has been already said I wouldn't really blame the organizers. Sure misinformation on Twitter is amateurish, but it affects only the viewers. And if any DS is stupid enough to pay attention to Twitter instead of listening carefully to race radio (preferably with someone who understands italian accent through radio static), it's his fault.
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 27-05-2014 21:54
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Ta.
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"... Because he (me) has a sound tactical mind in general..." jandal7, at 9:30 am GMT on 12th May 2016
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