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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2013 00:32
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TheManxMissile wrote:
1st: When did he ride for Saunier! And how did i not know!
2006. But no worries, he was just a trainee.
At Dirty Corti's Barloworld however he has no such excuse 
EDIT: And speaking of Polish-Canadian Mazur, a former Junior World Champion retired shortly after from the sport and seemed very bitter about it. Said he wouldn't be given a contract by anyone unless he took drugs.
He complained especially about his 11th place at the Dauphiné prologue. "I know for a fact every guy in the top 10 was on drugs. I could've been an instant star. Instead I was nobody"
Star is stretching it, but he does have a point
Edited by issoisso on 21-03-2013 00:36
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-03-2013 07:04
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| 1. | | [USA] | | ZABRISKIE David | | CSC | | 04'35" | | | 2. | | [USA] | | HINCAPIE George | | DSC | | 02" | | | 3. | | [AUS] | | O'GRADY Stuart | | CSC | | 06" | | | 4. | | [GER] | | LANG Sebastian | | GST | | 07" | | 5. | | [NED] | | POSTHUMA Joost | | RAB | | 08" | | 6. | | [BEL] | | DEVOLDER Stijn | | DSC | | 08" | | 7. | | [ESP] | | VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro | | CEI | | 08" | | | 8. | | [RUS] | | GUSEV Vladimir | | DSC | | 08" | | 9. | | [USA] | | LANDIS Floyd | | PHO | | 08" | | 10. | | [KAZ] | | KASHECHKIN Andrey | | LSW | | 09" | | 11. | | [POL] | | MAZUR Piotr | | SDV | | 09" | | 12. | | [FRA] | | MOREAU Christophe | | A2R | | 09" |
I'll pretend I had no idea about Lang and Posthuma, but the other 11 guys in the top 12 (I know Mazur mentioned top 10, but I wanted to include Moreau ) are quite obvious cases, so he, indeed, has a point. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 21-03-2013 15:46
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| 1° Diego Ulissi (Lampre-Merida) 4h33'23" a 35,62 km/h | | 2° Miguel A. Rubiano Chavez (Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela) a 34" | | 3° Damiano Cunego (Lampre-Merida) a 1'11" | | 4° Rogina (Adria Mobil) st | | 5° Riccardo Zoidl (Team Gourmetfein) a 1'15" | | 6° Davide Rebellin (CCC Polsat Polkowice) st | | 7° Francesco Manuel Bongiorno (Bardiani Valvole-Csf) st | | 8° Leopold Konig (Team NetApp-Endura) a 1'16" | | 9° Sergio Pardilla (MTN Qhubeka) a 1'20" | | 10° Ivan Basso (Cannondale) a 1'38" |
Ullissi's show here. Great result by Rogina and the possible future star in Manuel Bongiorno.
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 21-03-2013 15:57
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Is that from Coppi e Bartali?
How hard can it be?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 21-03-2013 15:58
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Gulvplanke wrote:
Is that from Coppi e Bartali?
Yes.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2013 17:06
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Francesco Bongiorno was one of the most highly rated u23s that turned pro this time around, so not a surprise there. Zoidl-berg on the other hand...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-03-2013 17:33
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| ppanther |
Posted on 21-03-2013 17:58
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issoisso wrote:
Francesco Bongiorno was one of the most highly rated u23s that turned pro this time around, so not a surprise there. Zoidl-berg on the other hand...
Come on, you can't be suspicious of every single good result someone gets. Zoidl is very talented, even though he is already 24. He is really dominating Austrians national racing league if he wants to. That was also his problem in his first career years. Partying almost every weekend, living his life as young guy. With his above average talent, he still was able to beat many other national riders. As i know him a little, i can say last year he got more serious about training and managed wining National TT Championship, finished 14th at World TT Championship, wining national racing league and got some other good results. As riding for a minor team, this race is probably his higlight in spring, so he is in good form, while others are maybe not in that good shape. So not really surprising for me, even though its a very good result for him and his team. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2013 18:15
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ppanther wrote:
Come on, you can't be suspicious of every single good result someone gets. Zoidl is very talented, even though he is already 24.
That's the kind of comment that makes me want to punch in the face person who made it. WHEN DID I MENTION SUSPICION? IT'S ENTIRELY YOUR ASSUMPTION.
This is why I post way less here since about 2 years ago. Anything I say people immediately insist I must be talking about doping.
If I say the weather is good someone asks what I mean by that. I MEAN THE WEATHER IS GOOD. IF I SAY ZOIDL WAS A SURPRISE, I MEAN HE WAS A SURPRISE. Then I'm painted as the guy who is always suspicious of every rider when most of the time it's people trying hard to read something that's not there.
I re-read that post twice before posting to make sure nobody could possibly take that as a doping allegation. Yet somebody found a way to.
I'm sorry, this is not directed at you specifically. It's a general comment on something that really really frustrates me around here.
I think most have noticed that my posts over last year or so have become quite angry. That's the reason.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 21-03-2013 18:20
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issoisso wrote:
ppanther wrote:
Come on, you can't be suspicious of every single good result someone gets. Zoidl is very talented, even though he is already 24.
That's the kind of comment that makes me want to punch in the face person who made it. WHEN DID I MENTION SUSPICION? IT'S ENTIRELY YOUR ASSUMPTION.
This is why I post way less here since about 2 years ago. Anything I say people immediately insist I must be talking about doping.
If I say the weather is good someone asks what I mean by that. I MEAN THE WEATHER IS GOOD. IF I SAY ZOIDL WAS A SURPRISE, I MEAN HE WAS A SURPRISE. Then I'm painted as the guy who is always suspicious of every rider when most of the time it's people trying hard to read something that's not there.
I re-read that post twice before posting to make sure nobody could possibly take that as a doping allegation. Yet somebody found a way to.
I'm sorry, this is not directed at you specifically. It's a general comment on something that really really frustrates me around here.
I think most have noticed that my posts over last year or so have become quite angry. That's the reason.
Ok, i am really sorry than. I misunderstood. It also has nothing to do with you, as i am not long enough here to have different ideas of the different posters here. I have just read your comments about Gilbert yesterday, where i think you are generally spot on, and assumed you meant it in a doping related way. Also with Zoidl i may be a bit biased. Sorry again. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2013 18:23
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Cheers 
Zoidl's best result so far, definitely. He was promising a few years ago and failed to deliver, but judging by what you say it seems he's on the right track.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 21-03-2013 18:27
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issoisso wrote:
..., but judging by what you say it seems he's on the right track.
Yup, i hope so.  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-03-2013 20:28
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issoisso wrote:
If I say the weather is good someone asks what I mean by that.
It means you're praising Sky's performances. That is odd.
I'm confused now. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-03-2013 20:37
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Aquarius wrote:
| 1. | | [USA] | | ZABRISKIE David | | CSC | | 04'35" | | | 2. | | [USA] | | HINCAPIE George | | DSC | | 02" | | | 3. | | [AUS] | | O'GRADY Stuart | | CSC | | 06" | | | 4. | | [GER] | | LANG Sebastian | | GST | | 07" | | 5. | | [NED] | | POSTHUMA Joost | | RAB | | 08" | | 6. | | [BEL] | | DEVOLDER Stijn | | DSC | | 08" | | 7. | | [ESP] | | VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro | | CEI | | 08" | | | 8. | | [RUS] | | GUSEV Vladimir | | DSC | | 08" | | 9. | | [USA] | | LANDIS Floyd | | PHO | | 08" | | 10. | | [KAZ] | | KASHECHKIN Andrey | | LSW | | 09" | | 11. | | [POL] | | MAZUR Piotr | | SDV | | 09" | | 12. | | [FRA] | | MOREAU Christophe | | A2R | | 09" |
I'll pretend I had no idea about Lang and Posthuma, but the other 11 guys in the top 12 (I know Mazur mentioned top 10, but I wanted to include Moreau ) are quite obvious cases, so he, indeed, has a point. \
Posthuma is a pretty obvious doper. Became pro in 2004, had some great first years and was a good domestique and took his wins in small flattish stage races up until 2008 (including Ruta del Sol)...
then after austria rumors and blood passport his career collapsed completely and he turned into a nobody and barely usefull domestique who DNF-ed most races.
Oh yeah, and what was the team he spent most of his career.. Rabobank |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 21-03-2013 20:40
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Lang maybe. Spent most of his carrer at Gerolsteiner and after he left he ran out of results. |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 22-03-2013 15:25
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Zola Predosa - Piane di Mocogno (157,0 km)
1 Damiano Cunego (Lampre Merida) 4 h 10'18"
2 Mauro Santambrogio (Vini Fantini-Selle Italia) st
3 Matej Mugerli (Adria Mobil) st
4 Davide Rebellin (CCC Polsat Polkowic) st
5 Leopold Konig (Team NetApp-Endura) st
6 Miguel A. Rubianc Chavez (Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela) st
7 Riccardo Zoidl (Team Gourmetfein Simplon) st
8 Francesco Manuel Bongiorno (Bardiani Valvole-Csf) st
9 Ivan Basso (Cannondale Pro Cycling) st
10 Robinson Chalapud (Colombia) st |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 22-03-2013 15:32
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Santambrogio is carrying his form nicely.
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 22-03-2013 16:54
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Riccardo Zoidl showing good signs here. He did impress in last year's World Championship Time-Trial. |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 22-03-2013 17:45
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General
1 (1) ULISSI Diego 11:19:13
2 (2) RUBIANO CHAVEZ 0:58
3 (3) CUNEGO Damiano 1:07
4 (4) REBELLIN Davide 1:40
5 (5) KONIG Leopold 1:42
6 (6) BASSO Ivan ,,
7 (7) BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel 1:46
8 (8) ZOIDL Riccardo 1:52
9 (9) PARDILLA BELLON Sergio 2:17
10 (12) ROGINA Radoslav 2:49
11 (11) TABORRE Fabio 2:52
12 (10) DEIGNAN Philip 2:53
13 (13) PELLIZOTTI Franco 3:15
14 (15) PIMENTA COSTA MENDES José Joao 4:07
15 (18) SELLA Emanuele 4:16
16 (17) EUSER Lucas 4:54
17 (19) BARTA Jan 5:28
18 (21) KANGERT Tanel 5:36
19 (32) PöSTLBERGER Lukas 5:48
20 (25) FELLINE Fabio 5:52
Edited by ppanther on 22-03-2013 17:48
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Posted on 22-03-2013 23:58
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Basso showing that he still has something to offer |
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