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| knockout |
Posted on 16-02-2018 20:18
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Shonak wrote:
Must admit it's super tempting to keep Cio from obtaining Herklotz  but ofc, I am all for it. One of the best and most passionate managers in MG to join the ICL is definitely a great and very much welcome addition.
This! 
A bit of a shame that i never won't have a chance to get Herklotz then but i would have a hard time getting enough budget pre-R1.3 anyway 
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| Ripley |
Posted on 16-02-2018 20:23
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Absolutely! And the rest of you could have had Herklotz this season, what are you complaining about? 
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 17-02-2018 03:48
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Ripley wrote:
Absolutely! And the rest of you could have had Herklotz this season, what are you complaining about?
Well I tried!
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| knockout |
Posted on 17-02-2018 11:20
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Ripley wrote:
Absolutely! And the rest of you could have had Herklotz this season, what are you complaining about?
I wanted but the R1 boycott... 
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| Ripley |
Posted on 18-02-2018 07:04
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Forgot about that. Oh well, your team is too strong anyway, you don't need Herklotz.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-02-2018 08:36
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I agree with the above sentiments Herklotz should be released if Cio is to take over 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 19-02-2018 15:46
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I'll soon work on the new scouting files. As mentioned before this season, we will have some changes. I want to reward it more to keep money for scouting.
Most likely, the scouting system will work more like in career modes of Fifa or PCM: You can sign scouts and assign them to regions for the months of the year. They return reports of riders they find. You can then tell them to focus on some riders they have found. From August on (or sometime around that area) you can sign the talents you have found and let your scouts make profiles on.
Before finalizing this idea, I'd like to hear some more opinions on the matter. Do you think this is a good idea? Would like to see something else including in the scouting system? Do you think you have a better idea? Would you like to see a draft or something similar included? Whatever speak your mind. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 19-02-2018 17:25
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I like that idea!
Maybe an offer value system if more then one team is attempting to sign a rider?
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| dominox |
Posted on 19-02-2018 17:41
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Bikex wrote:
Would you like to see a draft or something similar included? Whatever speak your mind.
I'll say something on this. Maybe because I'm big fan of "draft" system in any sport. Well, almost . Draft would be something really nice to see here as some weaker teams would have a chance for grab someone "special". But! As far as I really like "draft" system, it would be great at the end of free agency R3 or somewhere like this. And I would do this for maybe 1/2 riders in CT and 2/3/4 for WT team. Just a feature not a full-team creating method. And maybe including riders only NOT signed to any teams as a "bonus" riders for any team.
bonus means free
And! Managers could save the money for transfers, training, research and other stuff, because of few riders signed free. But, if you would like to have them in your team for next season (you know, when renewals are happening), then you have to pay their normal wage. Or we can just increase a little bit minimum wages for all riders when you will be getting some free ones .
Maybe something like that: f.e
CT - you have to sign 16 riders - 2 riders via draft system after FA R3
WT - you have to sign 22 riders - 3 riders via draft system after FA R3 |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 19-02-2018 18:21
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I was talking about the scouting system. I doubt a draft would fit in with the general transfer system how it is at the moment.
I thought it somehow maybe could be included in the scouting system, but don't really know how. |
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| dominox |
Posted on 19-02-2018 18:30
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Oh, nevermind then! |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 19-02-2018 19:00
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Drafts are good to signing riders, or assigning certain things. So if, say, scouts had attributes and skills you could Draft for scouts, with the weaker teams getting access to better scouts. Or scouting packages, some packages giving better quality reports, or access to certain global areas.
Can't comment on how to make changes, it's been too long since i was in the game last. Plus all i'll be scouting is the Caribbean, and what scout wouldn't want to spend some time there in the sunshine?
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-02-2018 13:23
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I wanted to make better scouts more expensvie, so that leaving money for scouting rewards a team. This wouldn't work well together with drafting those scouts imo. Also it is hard to rank teams at this point of the season from weak to strong to make a fair draft order. Somehow including scouting packages or access rights to global areas sounds like quite a good idea.
You don't need to have been a part of the game recently to contribute well to the discussion, as the entire scouting system will be set up new. Every input is welcome.
I think a draft could be included after the season, when the final ranking is out and the new regens have raced their world championship. At that point many regens are probably already signed, but possibly some gems are still left that could have been discovered through the WC results and maybe a table including all regens that I could post. That way weaker teams are getting a small advantage at least.
Also new teams that have signed up could be included in that draft. That way they can sign some personal talents already in their first season and could build a connection to them. This could be important as regens slowly take over ICL and real riders, that new managers might know are getting rare.
But the draft would only be the concluding part of the new scouting system. I thought scouts could have two skills called "Quality" and "Quantity". The first influencing the correctness and accuracy of that scouts report and the second how many riders he finds.
What should the initial scouting report include? How exact should the report be, after a scout has focused on a specified talent?
I also like the idea with scouting packages, maybe some of these could appear and be auctioned.
I'm open for more ideas and will craft the new scouting system then with the help of the input I get from you. |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 20-02-2018 14:35
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I don't even know how the current scouting system works and haven't used PCM scouting in many years... personally, I'd like to see full stats and potentials of riders no matter how little I spend, if I spend little I just get a very short list of 3 or 5 riders (with a tiny chance that one of them has a high potential). And the more I spend, the longer the list. If instead I get something like "AVG 60-70 and pot 3-6", I'll probably never bother with scouting or hiring such a rider. But that's just me.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-03-2018 13:58
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Scouting
It's time to give you some tasks again. I have been working on the new scouting system and here is shortly how it works:
You sign scouts and send them to different regions. After each round you get a scouting update from them including data about talents they found there. After that you can change the instructions for the scouts, depending on if you want to send him somewhere else or it is possible to focus on specific talents they found. Meaning that the report on them will be much more accurate than before.
In total there will be 10 rounds (= # of racing months). From round 8 on you are allowed to sign precontracts with riders you have found for the upcoming season.
After the 10th round closes there will be the U21 WWorld Championships with the regens and I'll share a table with all talents still available (not with their exact stats). A draft will conclude the Scouting. Teams will be ordered in the order of the turned around rankings. Also newly signing up teams will get a chance to take part in the draft, that way they are involved in the game earlier.
Besides on Scouts, budget can also be spent on Scouting packages that will be auctioned. These also include information on talents.
The possibility to pay wages out of the Scouting budget will be removed.
Scouts
Before we can get started, you'll have to sign scouts. Please download this file for creating you Scouts: https://www.mediafire.com/file/zg4gsh6...couts.xlsx
Start by entering your team ID in the respective cell. As always you'll find it in the "Teams" tab. Your budget and IDs for your scouts will appear. Fill in as many scouts as you'd like to sign. You can freely choose Name and nationality, they won't have any influence. The interesting cells are Quantity (= how many riders a Scout finds) and Quality (= How good the reports on them are). Both can take values from 1 to 3. The cost of a scout is their added values * 20. So the cheapest scout costs 40 the most expensive 120.
When done send me the entire table including the scouts please. I'll then set up a personalized spreadsheet in which you will do your scouting and send you the link.
Due to the Scouting Packages that are sold independent from your Scouts work, it is not recommended to use up all your money for scouts. How a scouting package looks exactly is not yet decided. Buying packs with money is a lot more of a gamble than investing in Scouts.
Scouting Regions
Another thing that can already be done is determining Scouting regions. Of course you can send a Scout to a single country, but some teams have focus on regions that include several countries. If you want to add a Scouting Region please do that here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...sp=sharing
I have added an example of the "Baltic States" at the bottom. If you want to have a scouting region added, please just expand the list. Enter a name for the region and the 3 letter codes of all countries(max 10) you want to include next to it.
If the region makes sense I'll approve it. There is some stuff to consider: The countries you add do have to have a connection. You can't for example add a region including Peru and Taiwan.
You can't make a region too big, by including many bigger (cycling) countries in a region. For example combining Netherlands and Belgium into a scouting region is not allowed, as that would be a too big talent pool. Italy and San Marino or Spain and Andorra would be accepted on the other hand.
Some countries have many added regions in PCM already, so it is also possible to focus on some of them if you like. Look into the tab "Regions" to see what is part of the game. You can include any of these regions into your created Scouting Regions. For example if your focus would be Basque you could combine Spanish and French regions into a Scouting zone. For that just copy the name of the regions exactly like it is in the file into the line of your scouting region.
If you want to send several Scouts to the same country it might be a good idea to split up that countrys regions into several so the scouts don't cross each others path
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Nacho63 will again join the game with a team for next season, so I gave him a small budget so he can already take part in the Scouting.
Edited by Bikex on 09-03-2018 17:34
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-03-2018 14:11
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Can't edit the google doc without signing in and getting permission, as someone that avoids signing into google unless nessesary can it either be opened up or can i send the Caribbean region manually to you for adding?
Because obviously Cool Runnings only has one region to bother scouting, which does make it easy
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-03-2018 14:28
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Sorry about that, fixed it now. |
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| dominox |
Posted on 09-03-2018 16:35
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Is it even worth to try with a 100 bucks? |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 09-03-2018 17:03
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I do not like this new system for a single bit to be honest. Or actually, I do like it, but I do not like it getting implemented right now.
Reason is simple: I assumed scouting would stay the same, and I based my team's transfers on that assumption. Had I known about this beforehand, I would most likely have kept more money as right now it's just impossible, more or less, for my team to continue my big focus on regional talents as I simply have no money left in the bank.
Severe mistake if you'd ask me.
Added some regions though I thought would make sense.
Manager of Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska in the PCM.Daily Man-Game |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 09-03-2018 17:13
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fjhoekie wrote:
I do not like this new system for a single bit to be honest. Or actually, I do like it, but I do not like it getting implemented right now.
Reason is simple: I assumed scouting would stay the same, and I based my team's transfers on that assumption. Had I known about this beforehand, I would most likely have kept more money as right now it's just impossible, more or less, for my team to continue my big focus on regional talents as I simply have no money left in the bank.
Severe mistake if you'd ask me.
Added some regions though I thought would make sense.
Everybody got at least 100, with which you could sign a great scout and send him/her to Ukraine (+X)
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