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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-09-2014 17:15
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How do you calculate it? Average or first x riders?  great list, though |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 01-09-2014 17:30
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He takes the first 3 riders, like Team Classification I think.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-09-2014 17:31
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Oh right, didn't see it was 107 hrs  if that were the average...  |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 01-09-2014 17:44
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I take a big risk with asking this question. Don't kill me if the internet crashed with the outrage/support
Anyone know if Contador was tested after the TdF (because most thougth he will not race again before september)?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 01-09-2014 18:17
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How should we know? 
The main thing about Contador's injury and participation at the Vuelta, was always the tibia fracture. Question was for the Vuelta, if it heals up and if he can ride without (too much) pain. It all came down to that. Apparently it did heal up, though with some complications at first. Granted, there may be some exaggerations from PR side to make his comeback more spectacular.
If you wonder why he's so good and is able to attack and ride at the front; professional cyclists often are without a single ride for several weeks, for example Nibali after Giro and ahead of last year's Vuelta. This is pretty common, and so it's not surprising to see him back in racing condition so fast. Contador had enough time for training rides and to re-gain his form. You don't lose all that hard earned fitness in a couple of weeks.
Also, Contador dropped out relatively fresh from le Tour, before any tough mountain stages. He has also shown, for example in Dauphine, that his base level this year is pretty damn high, where he was in competition from the get-go, although not doing a race for 2(?) months.
However, Contador still certainly lacks the peak level for that extra punch for now, like maintaing the effort after an attack (like he said), but he will get it probably in third week, when he really needs it. From where he was coming, his performance was great, but it was a result of circumstance.
Also, keep in mind, that Froome is likely to have suffered from his crash two days earlier, and Purito and Q did catch up with him.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 02-09-2014 09:18
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Vuelta Special on Strava, worth a look.
https://blog.strav...pana-2014/
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 02-09-2014 11:33
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Looks like a promising TT route today, should definitely be fun to watch. Im especially interested in Nairo Quintana, I somehow think he will do fine. Valverde the same, he is usually money in rather difficult TTs in Vuelta. I dont think we will see big differences compared to a complete flat TT. Here my bet on a top-5 after the TT:
1. Contador
2. Froome + 10
3. Valverde + 40
4. Quintana + 55
5. Urán + 1.20
I dont know what Anacona will be able to to. I think he will slip towards the end of the top-10. This TT is probably most crucial to Rodriguez though, if he loses 2 minutes on Contador/Froome, I think he is done although i actually expect him to be the best climber of the 3. Also funny to see whether Belkin will continue their tradition of fucking themselves over in TT's. Dan Martin is also interesting, he could lose a couple of minutes more today. And how will Chavez do? |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 02-09-2014 11:40
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Riis123 wrote:
Looks like a promising TT route today, should definitely be fun to watch. Im especially interested in Nairo Quintana, I somehow think he will do fine. Valverde the same, he is usually money in rather difficult TTs in Vuelta. I dont think we will see big differences compared to a complete flat TT. Here my bet on a top-5 after the TT:
1. Contador
2. Froome + 10
3. Valverde + 40
4. Quintana + 55
5. Urán + 1.20
I dont know what Anacona will be able to to. I think he will slip towards the end of the top-10. This TT is probably most crucial to Rodriguez though, if he loses 2 minutes on Contador/Froome, I think he is done although i actually expect him to be the best climber of the 3. Also funny to see whether Belkin will continue their tradition of fucking themselves over in TT's. Dan Martin is also interesting, he could lose a couple of minutes more today. And how will Chavez do?
Gesink will lose time (1-2 mins maybe even more) in the TT while Kelderman will do it good.
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| colombia_coldeportes |
Posted on 02-09-2014 12:57
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The objective from Belkin should be to stay on their bikes  I remenber last year iirc a TT where Ten Dam and Mollema crashed
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 02-09-2014 13:45
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Belkin has Kelderman who is a great TT'er normally, though he isn't at his peak this Vuelta. He said he came to here a bit tired due to a jetlag. (he rode Utah). He hopes to get better the second week. Gesink is an average TT'er and in great shape so I expect a top 20-30 for him. |
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Posted on 02-09-2014 14:20
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Finish Line at the moment
1. Cancellara (Trek) 47:13
2. Kiryienka (Sky) a 47
3. Sergent (Trek) a 1:02
4. Malori (Movistar) a 1:56
5. Millar (Garmin) a 2:05
6. Gretsch (AG2R) a 2:30
7. Clement (Belkin) a 2:34
8. Joeaar (Cofidis) a 2:39
9. Valgren (Tinkoff) a 2:43
10. Bodnar (Cannondale) a 2:54
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:22
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Yeah, those are bigger gaps than what I would have expected... |
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| JoeArmstrong13 |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:24
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Nah Froome will take the GC lead as Contador is still injured
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| Shonak |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:25
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Yeah, good TT by Spartacus, though the descent certainly favored his skills I guess. Hardly a TT for Malori, so we'll find out what Cance's time is worth once Panzerwagen rushes through.
Isn't this TT quite similiar to the one last year at Vuelta and the one before? They really have a thingy for those hilly TTs in Spain. I think Contador did better than Froome in 2012 IIRC.
Edited by Shonak on 02-09-2014 14:26
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| matt17br |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:25
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Kiryenka crossed the line with the second time, 47" from Cancellara
1. Cancellara 211 47' 13''
2. Kiryienka 195 + 47''
3. Sergent 216 + 1' 02''
4. Malori 157 + 1' 56''
5. Dennis 42 + 1' 58''
6. Millar 107 + 2' 05''
7. Gretsch 15 + 2' 30''
8. Clement 32 + 2' 34''
9. Joeaar 74 + 2' 39''
10. Andersen 202 + 2' 43''
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| colombia_coldeportes |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:26
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I wasnt expecting so big gaps either i wonder how many time will Purito lose against Froome it could be easy more then 2 min 
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:30
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Froome will gain
30seconds-1min on Contador
1-2min on Quintana
2-3 Min on Rodriguez
Valverde could be 1-1:30 min I think
Shit,will be big time gaps I think
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| colombia_coldeportes |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:32
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The Panzerwagen is doing it agian
Ater 11 km
Km. 11,2:
1. Martin (OPQS) 20:02
2. Cancellara (Trek) a 6
3. Dennis (BMC) a 13
4. Sergent (Trek) a 14
5. Bodnar (Cannondale) a 15
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| Shonak |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:34
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colombia_coldeportes wrote:
I wasnt expecting so big gaps either i wonder how many time will Purito lose against Froome it could be easy more then 2 min
I don't think so and I certainly don't hope so. Guess it'll be rather close together.
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 02-09-2014 14:36
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Went all in with PCM$ on Martin today.
1433 bucks on the line. Fingers crossed!
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