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Paris - Nice 2013
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:54
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Impressive ride from Porte.
As long as there's no edidence: brilliant performance and congrats to him and the team! |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:54
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gotlandrules wrote:
Even the SKY fans can't think this is normal? every rider that comes first becomes the best domestiques and then after 2 years they are winning a major race after becoming captains.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:54
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fickman wrote:
A shame Quintana fall of the bike in the last descent in Stage 5. He could have ended up in the podium. Still great Performance although he is only 23. Is going to be interesting to see his development the next years.
Unless he signs with Sky. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:56
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Selwink wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
Here's a fun exercise: In the entire history of the sport, name a team dominating anywhere near this much that didn't turn out to just have a doping advantage
One example. Entire history of the sport to choose from. Go.
US Postal,
Oh wait, no.
Spanish football team.
Ehm, probably not.
Anything else?
Anyone?
No?
I think we can draw a conclusion
Norway ski team in the 90s, oh yeah those who all had over 1.80 blood count =) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:56
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Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:57
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CountArach wrote:
Then why did Uran beat him by about 45" last year on this same course? Surely Uran would have been given the exact same instruction. I'm not saying that he went 100% last year like he did here, but even going 95% last year would surely mean that he would make the top 10 if this is what he is capable of?
I truly hope that Porte is clean because if he is then this is something magnificent for Australian cycling (which often needs all the exposure that it can get) but this TT does not fill me with confidence.
Being given an instruction doesn't necessarily mean that you have to follow it, and from what I remember last year I think Porte did a hell of a lot more work for Wiggins than Uran so he wanted to take the last stage easy. Not saying any of this is true btw. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:58
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I think that's going to be the main evidence. If Nordhaug and especially Rogers don't do shit this year, I think not even Alakagom can save them. |
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:59
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issoisso wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
Holy shit, its only bloody March, give them the season to prove it at least jeez!
Edited by CLURPR on 10-03-2013 16:00
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| fickman |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:00
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After this, I wouldnt be surprise if wiggins wins Giro and Tour this Year and Froome make second place place at Tour and wins Vuelta. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:01
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fickman wrote:
After this, I wouldnt be surprise if wiggins wins Giro and Tour this Year and Froome make second place place at Tour and wins Vuelta.
Not to mention Porte taking the 2014 Giro.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:01
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issoisso wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
Flecha - Good reuslt in Qatar last year - why - because of windy stage.
This year, no wind, spritner's race. He finally didn't peak at Omloop and has a one major peak at Ronde and PR, good choice.
Rogers - Well, did well at TdU and then next race was Criterium International, are you going judge his season already ?
Nordhaug - Is doing Tour hence not in great form early on as his first big peak is Ardennes. Norwegian fans saying he has knee problems as well, are you going judge his season now meanwhile his 2 big goals are still long way to go ?
Man, you jumped to conclusion here quite early imo.
Edited by Alakagom on 10-03-2013 16:02
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:02
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CLURPR wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
Holy shit, its only bloody March, give them the season to prove it at least jeez!
Nordhaug has allergies. Maybe he's allergic to Blanco's new training method.
Edited by FreitasPCM on 10-03-2013 16:03
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:02
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CLURPR wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
Holy shit, its only bloody March, give them the season to prove it at least jeez!
"It's only March"?
This time last year Rogers had 3rd in the nationals, 4th overall in a World Tour stage race and was very well placed in the GC of a cat.1 stage race that he crashed out of.
Flecha was 3rd in a HC stage race and 3rd in the Omloop.
Nordhaug had a win in a stage of the Trofeo Mallorca, not from a break but in direct fight against very big names.
But hey "it's only March". It's only 3 months into the damn season...
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:03
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CLURPR wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Iguwell wrote:
I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill
Rogers, Flecha, Nordhaug. They all had good results at this time last year, and they all have zero to show for it this year.
Isn't it amazing how when they leave they forget how to train?
Sky must mind-wipe the "advanced new training methods" from their memories.
Look into the light, you didn't see anything
Holy shit, its only bloody March, give them the season to prove it at least jeez!
Last season by now, Rogers had already been 4th at Tdu, Nordhaug had already won Trofeo Deia, Flecha 3rd at Qatar and Omloop Het Nieuwslab. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:04
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I seriously hope that Wiggo doesn't take his Sky-train with him when he rides the Giro. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:05
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issoisso wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
Here's a fun exercise: In the entire history of the sport, name a team dominating anywhere near this much that didn't turn out to just have a doping advantage
One example. Entire history of the sport to choose from. Go.
The Chinese table tennis team 
Or what about the Jamaican sprinters?
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:06
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fcancellara wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
Here's a fun exercise: In the entire history of the sport, name a team dominating anywhere near this much that didn't turn out to just have a doping advantage
One example. Entire history of the sport to choose from. Go.
The Chinese table tennis team
Or what about the Jamaican sprinters?
Jamaican sprinters where one just got a 2 year ban for dope? =) |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:07
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And even if it is only 3 months in to the season. It's all set. We all know what is going to happen.
Michael Rogers will fail to deliveer. Flecha will fail to deliver. Nordhaug won't do anything. It's not even something to discuss. There should be absolutely no doubt that especially Rogers will fall through in the Tour.
This is how it works now. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:10
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Iguwell wrote:
And even if it is only 3 months in to the season. It's all set. We all know what is going to happen.
Michael Rogers will fail to deliveer. Flecha will fail to deliver. Nordhaug won't do anything. It's not even something to discuss. There should be absolutely no doubt that especially Rogers will fall through in the Tour.
This is how it works now.
And David Lopez will probably go on the podium at the Vuelta. |
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| fickman |
Posted on 10-03-2013 16:12
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Sky Doping Thread is going to explode today. |
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