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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-09-2008 10:43
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SportingNonsense wrote:
No, Im pretty sure thats just your assumption for why anyone could possibly find the Tour more exciting than a race like the Vuelta that you have decided will always be better, never to be convinced otherwise.
Are you irrational because it's saturday morning or should I take it your poorly constructed lie is completely random?
Shall I dig up your post?
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Posted on 20-09-2008 10:53
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SportingNonsense wrote:
you have decided will always be better, never to be convinced otherwise.
Even if that were true, you would never be one to talk:
SportingNonsense wrote:
The tour is still by far and away the best grand tour for me though. With the Giro in 2nd and the Vuelta far behind in the Grupetto, not worthy of even 3rd. (Thats my view, and noone can change it)
Edited by issoisso on 20-09-2008 10:53
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Posted on 20-09-2008 10:55
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issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
No, Im pretty sure thats just your assumption for why anyone could possibly find the Tour more exciting than a race like the Vuelta that you have decided will always be better, never to be convinced otherwise.
Are you irrational because it's saturday morning or should I take it your poorly constructed lie is completely random?
Shall I dig up your post?
Why even ask? Youre normally not this patient to dig holes into my post when I express my opinion. I was already awaiting your post picking apart every thing I said, as well as its accompaniment of sarcasm.
By saying that I found the Tour exciting just because it was the Tour is just plain wrong. If you assumed that from a post I made then you made the wrong assumptions.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-09-2008 10:59
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Why even ask? Youre normally not this patient to dig holes into my post when I express my opinion.
Because it's usually just an opinion, not a personal attack on me like this time.
SportingNonsense wrote:
By saying that I found the Tour exciting just because it was the Tour is just plain wrong. If you assumed that from a post I made then you made the wrong assumptions.
Then tell me what I should assume from this:
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Probably the major factor is the fact that British TV always covers it. Ive grown up watching the Tour de France yet have only followed the results of the other 2 Grand Tours since the 2006 Vuelta and the only way for me to watch the Vuelta or Giro is online.
So, even you don't mention the racing at all.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-09-2008 11:26
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issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
you have decided will always be better, never to be convinced otherwise.
Even if that were true, you would never be one to talk:
SportingNonsense wrote:
The tour is still by far and away the best grand tour for me though. With the Giro in 2nd and the Vuelta far behind in the Grupetto, not worthy of even 3rd. (Thats my view, and noone can change it)
The only reason I added that line in there was try to stop you from lecturing me on how good and exciting the Vuelta is. Just like I bracketed the comment about having had this argument before in the hope that you wouldnt then restart the argument. In both cases, i guess it didnt work. Maybe I should have worded it to 'noone apart from the cyclists themselves can change it', would that have satisfied you enough to not make a comment?
issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Probably the major factor is the fact that British TV always covers it. Ive grown up watching the Tour de France yet have only followed the results of the other 2 Grand Tours since the 2006 Vuelta and the only way for me to watch the Vuelta or Giro is online.
So, even you don't mention the racing at all.
If I had found the Tour de France boring, I simply wouldnt have watched it. The excitement of it and the fact that I enjoyed watching it is the sole reason that I then decided to find out more about the other races. There are plenty of races that have been exciting and interesting to watch, the Vuelta just hasnt been one of them (You yourself has said that the past two Vueltas have not been as exciting as previous editions, well for me those are the only two Vueltas I have sign parts of)
It may be easier for me to find the Tour exciting, but if next year (using this as a pure example) Alberto Contador turned up at the Tour, and has an easy win in the race, with only his teammate looking capable of possibly beating him, I would find it boring.
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Now, make as many remarks about this post as you like. I get the impression that you would enjoy it. But whatever you say, I wont be reading it.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 20-09-2008 11:28
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 20-09-2008 11:45
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You're* wasting time with nonsense.
I just watched the Eurosport condensed version of yesterday's stage. Sneaky move by Arroyo, but what comes around goes around.
*Plural
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 20-09-2008 16:48
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well contabore has just won the vuelta.
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-09-2008 16:49
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And Leipheimer shows that Contador is far from 'the strongest GT rider ever!!!"
No domination at all, in fact, without boni seconds, Leipheimer would have given Contador a run for his money. |
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Posted on 20-09-2008 16:50
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Levi would have won if not for bonuses.
Before today he was just 3 seconds off. Just proves, no time bonuses = more excting racing. (for the most part)
Edited by doddy13 on 20-09-2008 16:50
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-09-2008 16:54
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Ruben wrote:
And Leipheimer shows that Contador is far from 'the strongest GT rider ever!!!"
No domination at all, in fact, without boni seconds, Leipheimer would have given Contador a run for his money. Of course Contador is not, but who seriously thinks he is ? 
Plus he's not in his best form ever this season, he's not even close to his TDF 2007 level. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-09-2008 17:02
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I know that, but many people don't get it. They keep saying, also here (if you look into the topic closely) that Contador is the all powerfull dominator who will easily win. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 20-09-2008 17:30
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And for all of you who think Levi is old and over the hill kiss my big white American ass
 Bananas for Levi!
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 20-09-2008 17:52
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Ruben wrote:
And Leipheimer shows that Contador is far from 'the strongest GT rider ever!!!"
No domination at all, in fact, without boni seconds, Leipheimer would have given Contador a run for his money.
I keep saying this...if they were on different teams...levi woulda chased contador. He definately was strong enough. Another levi screw job. |
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 20-09-2008 17:54
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Velonews says that without time bonus seconds, Levi and AC would have the same time. |
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Posted on 20-09-2008 18:06
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Phanekim wrote:
Ruben wrote:
And Leipheimer shows that Contador is far from 'the strongest GT rider ever!!!"
No domination at all, in fact, without boni seconds, Leipheimer would have given Contador a run for his money.
I keep saying this...if they were on different teams...levi woulda chased contador. He definately was strong enough. Another levi screw job.
You forgot that Contador won Giro, how strong was Leipheimer at that time? It's really hard to win both Giro and Vuelta and it's pretty easier to focus only on Vuelta |
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| hinault |
Posted on 20-09-2008 18:13
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leipheimer did do an awesome ride, though. Anyway, contador didn't care if he lost the stage as long as he didn't lose his first place. He might have gone harder if it wasn't his own team mate who was going to win.
"As long as I breathe, I attack." - Bernard Hinault
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-09-2008 18:21
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again Booring Vuelta..I was saying this at the first Vuelta mountain stage..how Astana will stop Leipheimer to win this tour?
They figured this out..butting him for last lead out man for Conta at mountain stages.
Still he just lost 46 sec. for Overall.
Was the strongest man winning this year Vuelta?
Astna isnt that strong..but top form and full list Rabo..CSC..Lotto..we will get quite intresting race. |
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 20-09-2008 18:24
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If the mountain stages had been at the end of the Vuelta it would have been much better...
After the mountain stages were over it was really boring. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 20-09-2008 20:01
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if you feel the same way as me and the vuelta cameramen yannick talabardon is the future of world cycling.
Use my avatar!
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 20-09-2008 20:02
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Yannick Talabardon y'all!
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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